Seaton Parking Charges

Started by testing times, February 21, 2017, 12: PM

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steveL

Marj admitted that introducing parking charges at Seaton means recruiting more enforcement officers so as well as the £60,000 set up costs we now have to add the costs of at least 2, possibly 3 enforcement officers. If you're looking for the figures of the total costs involved you won't find them - there aren't any. Nor are there any figures for the estimated number of visitors that would pay parking charges.

What we have here is another Inspirations Cafe with everything based on the personal opinions of an unemployed housewife from Arncliffe Gardens with a chip on her shoulder.

It's unlikely that the scheme will break even in the first year and the result will be that the charges will be both increased and extended and the free residential passes will fall by the way side and be brought into line with the rest of the town.

Read in the Mail article how the extra hour of free parking is expected to 'improve trade'. Does it not follow that the converse must also be true, introducing parking charges will have a negative effect on trade and at a time when they are telling us they want to increase visitors at Seaton?

There's not much point in over-analysing it. They just see it as a way of generating more cash for them to spend on fruit orchards.

We are dealing with imbeciles - that's the top and bottom of it.
Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Topcat

Steve you seem to forget that the council follows the Cranny school of business in which it takes at least five years for any enterprise to show a profit therefore they cannot expect breakeven in only one year.

Land Phil

How would Cranny know, his business never last 5 years before going bust.

The whole thing is beyond belief.

Any officer working for HBC and holding a professional qualification should be well and truly ashamed of themselves for letting this happen.

Has Marj got compromising photos hidden away ?

akarjl

Quote from: steveL on February 28, 2017, 11: AM
There's not much point in over-analysing it. They just see it as a way of generating more cash for them to spend on fruit orchards.

We are dealing with imbeciles - that's the top and bottom of it.

Comment of the month!

fred c


Lets face some simple facts about being an employee of HBC in any capacity, it is obvious that bullying by elected persons is a regular occurrence, I know of 2 mid level officers who had threats made against them by a councillor / councillors, that councillor / councillors also wanted the officers suspended pending an investigation into the facts surrounding an incident they witnessed.......they were fully justified in what they reported, very shortly afterwards they both left the employ of HBC.

I have no doubts, officers have & are placed under duress, the unfortunate consequences of that kind of pressure often ends in the employee adopting the attitude of 'I'll do anything for a quiet life'...... we have all witnessed the appalling behaviour in the council chamber by various councillors, if they are allowed to get away with that in public....... they can certainly get away with it in a closed environment.

steveL

Quote from: Topcat on February 28, 2017, 12: PM
Steve you seem to forget that the council follows the Cranny school of business in which it takes at least five years for any enterprise to show a profit therefore they cannot expect breakeven in only one year.

The only person at the council ever to make a profit was Angie Wilcox
Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Foggy

I wonder what will happen 6 months down the line when they 'review' the whole scheme.  If it's not financially viable and business are folding left, right and centre, what spin will they use to keep it going?  Because they will keep it going no matter what... that's what they do, rather than admit they were wrong.

Quote from: Land Phil on February 28, 2017, 12: PM
Any officer working for HBC and holding a professional qualification should be well and truly ashamed of themselves for letting this happen.
Totally agree with this point.  I've never understood quite why this can happen.  It totally perplexes me how people like Gill Alexander (and Dave Stubbs before her), along with many others, go along with whatever idiotic plans the imbeciles dream up and don't appear to question or challenge anything.  In fact, they protect and defend the imbeciles no matter what. Its bizarre... totally bizarre..

marky

of course it will continue. There is no way they would spend £60,000 and then just write it off so soon because things didn't go according to plan. For one thing they'd be worried what the Post would have to say about the waste  ;D ;D ;D

fred c

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Quote from: marky on February 28, 2017, 02: PM
of course it will continue. There is no way they would spend £60,000 and then just write it off so soon because things didn't go according to plan. For one thing they'd be worried what the Post would have to say about the waste  ;D ;D ;D


Your partly correct 'marky'......... they will wait 4 years, then let the cat out of the bag like they have did with The Cafe In The Crem.......




                                £380,000 Written Off

akarjl

Looks like the parking meters will be busy= kerching

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/plans-for-music-festival-at-hartlepool-seafront-1-8415422

I don't suppose for a microsecond Mad Dog will be considering suspending charges that day? Probably not as it is not a Clowncil  "charity".....

Meanwhile back at Muppet Control the Cookie Monster is planning Charity Curry nights at the Aldi Arms..........

Land Phil

Upto 10,000 people on the sewer plant car park.

Has somebody been in the vision juice again or are they employing the same person that counted the number of Tall Stories visitors ?

akarjl

Same lot that arranged Miles for Men resulting in the facilities at the Domes being trashed?

steveL

Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

kevplumb

nice one should set the ginger bi*ch off nicely  ;D

then we are sure to have some load of b@lls drafted by Rae in the mail ;D ;D ;D
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Any chance of renaming the old fairground car park as the Dick Turpin Memorial Community Parking Complex and Ub, they do like long winded, self important names after all.
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