General Election 2017

Started by steveL, April 19, 2017, 09: AM

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Steely Dan

Quote from: steveL on April 20, 2017, 07: PM
Farage isn't standing for election as an MP

What a shame. I was looking forward to seeing him beaten for the eighth time.

notenoughsaid

I may be a little out of touch but is Jonathan Brash a possible candidate.Using the title the local paper always described as Independent Labour be interested in standing? I for one would support him as I feel he would be able to ruffle a few feathers as he is a cut above the Mob and has a score to settle.!!! That would be interesting and worth a punt.





mk1

Imagine a meeting where (say) Clark debates with Brash. Now that would be sight worth hearing.  No doubt Clark would start every reply with 'My members and I.........'!

fred c

Quote from: mk1 on April 20, 2017, 11: PM
Imagine a meeting where (say) Clark debates with Brash. Now that would be sight worth hearing.  No doubt Clark would start every reply with 'My members and I.........'!


Torn up A**e Paper comes to mind........... whatever thoughts people have on ex labour man Brash, he was a cut above any of the LabMob,  he was prepared to take the Labour contingent on in a battle of wits on a regular basis, unfortunately
the LabMob were only half equipped.

Inspector Knacker

They'll never win anything in a battle of wits or come to that anything on an intellectual level, so they back themselves up with zombies and rely on pure weight of obedient numbers rather than weight of debate.
I'm eagerly awaiting the unveiling of the Labour candidate. I can't see a viable local candidate and can't believe they'd be dumb enough to parachute in a twee Islington droid, so we live in interesting times.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Inspector Knacker

Love them. Every time an election comes around they come out with "I've always voted Brain dead. Me dad voted Brain dead etc etc etc " going back to the crusades.
The funny thing is, they criticise the people representing them but don't appear to connect one with the other. The rump just don't think, voting for the Brain dead party is like performing bodily functions, you just do it, thought is irrelevant, it just happens and you have no control over it. And when you have no control over bodily functions you end up covered in?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

akarjl

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-guns-to-poach-hartlepool-from-labour-as-mp-iain-wright-stands-down-1-8501226

Looks like Tom has been shopping again ......charity shops must be having a sale. What a ridiculous image to project....

Some interesting comments on Snail......Broughton living in Ingleby Barwick = own goal......

I note the ever "verbal" cwistopher hasn't poked his blond mop from under the duvet to pontificate on how he and the local labour party will be selecting a "replacement" for shitey.

akarjl

As per other threads the problem at a local level is they are all complete s**t- either inexperienced and deluded or entirely focused on using Hartlepool as stepping stone to higher things.....

At a national level ?

Tories - full of empty promises and focus on wrong things...

Labour - Liars harping back to lunacy of 80's, financed by some particularly nasty trade unionists who don't give a damn about anyone who doesn't bow down to them.

Lib Dems - Fantasists who want to turn the Brexit clock backwards

Green Party  - A joke- not a viable choice

Independents - As MPs, pointless, may as well not have one- at a local level good for throwing grenades at the Kremlin crew occasionally


steveL

Interesting development:

"A letter sent to Constituency Labour Parties states in relation to retirement seats - such as Hartlepool -: "It is with the greatest regret that local party members will not be able to select parliamentary candidates." It added; "This process is necessary and it is only due to the exceptional snap General Election circumstances."


Read more at: http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/ukip-presses-on-with-plans-to-fight-for-town-s-mp-seat-1-8503682"
Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

DRiddle

There's talk of as many as 20+ current Labour MP's not standing for re-election.

Hartlepool will be a tricky one for Labour North to decide what to do with. The speed at which decisions will need to be made nationally is going to make it difficult for them to have the time to REALLY think about it carefully, fully taking into account the political mood in the town at present.

If they just look at it historically, it still looks like an easy Labour hold, but the zeitgeist currently doesn't suggest that. 

The WRONG local candidate probably hands it to UKIP, the 'right' (if there is such a thing) local candidate MIGHT see them home. The curve ball in this is someone parachuted in from elsewhere.

In terms of helping many people (myself included) achieve their collective goal of turning the seat into a genuine full blown marginal seat, I hope they select Stephen Akers-Belcher.

If there's one person capable of destroying what remains of what was an 18,000 majority not too long ago, it's him.


akarjl

Quote from: DRiddle on April 21, 2017, 07: AM
In terms of helping many people (myself included) achieve their collective goal of turning the seat into a genuine full blown marginal seat, I hope they select Stephen Akers-Belcher.

If there's one person capable of destroying what remains of what was an 18,000 majority not too long ago, it's him.

Wouldn't take much to "convince" Cwissie that he would fit in at westminster ( actually he would with certain "interest groups") his ego is big enough to convince himself he is the "man" for the job then we all turn up and pull the rug from under his feet.....god what a thought.

DRiddle

Based on that new information from SteveL, i think we could well be looking at a parachute candidate then. Either some one from (insert term of choice)  : momentum/progressive left/moderate left/hard left/good old fashioned genuine socialist or a well known political 'name' from within the Labour ranks who doesn't currently have a seat. There's only really Ed Balls this side of the Scottish border i can think of though.

What will be REALLY interesting is to see if any of our current Labour councillors try for a seat somewhere else in the country.

There's an advert on Labour website asking for candidates and there are over 400 seats (mainly held by Tories currently) going begging.

I did hear some funny anecdotes about Robbie Payne trying do get the nod to be an MP in Scunthorpe a while back.

I'm hoping Marjorie has a crack at a seat in Surrey.   

craig finton

Quote from: steveL on April 21, 2017, 07: AM
Interesting development:

"A letter sent to Constituency Labour Parties states in relation to retirement seats - such as Hartlepool -: "It is with the greatest regret that local party members will not be able to select parliamentary candidates." It added; "This process is necessary and it is only due to the exceptional snap General Election circumstances."


Read more at: http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/ukip-presses-on-with-plans-to-fight-for-town-s-mp-seat-1-8503682"

I can see a situation where non of the candidates from Labour/Tory/UKIP originate from the town and Tennant wants to make his mind up if he wants to be a councillor or Mayor or MP.

crisstw

Quote from: DRiddle on April 21, 2017, 07: AM
There's talk of as many as 20+ current Labour MP's not standing for re-election.

Hartlepool will be a tricky one for Labour North to decide what to do with. The speed at which decisions will need to be made nationally is going to make it difficult for them to have the time to REALLY think about it carefully, fully taking into account the political mood in the town at present.

If they just look at it historically, it still looks like an easy Labour hold, but the zeitgeist currently doesn't suggest that. 

The WRONG local candidate probably hands it to UKIP, the 'right' (if there is such a thing) local candidate MIGHT see them home. The curve ball in this is someone parachuted in from elsewhere.

In terms of helping many people (myself included) achieve their collective goal of turning the seat into a genuine full blown marginal seat, I hope they select Stephen Akers-Belcher.

If there's one person capable of destroying what remains of what was an 18,000 majority not too long ago, it's him.

Ed Balls would win, if he was selected, purely because he was on strictly. That's how depressingly thick the majority are....

fred c

Quote from: steveL on April 21, 2017, 07: AM
Interesting development:

"A letter sent to Constituency Labour Parties states in relation to retirement seats - such as Hartlepool -: "It is with the greatest regret that local party members will not be able to select parliamentary candidates[/u]." It added; "This process is necessary and it is only due to the exceptional snap General Election circumstances."


Read more at: http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/ukip-presses-on-with-plans-to-fight-for-town-s-mp-seat-1-8503682"

That's Democracy Labour style for you, it won't come as a surprise to the LabMob of course, they have been operating on the 'Do as I say.... Not Do as I Do' principle for long enough........Tees Valley Referendum Anyone  :) :)