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Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on January 13, 2020, 07: PM
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity .  Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.

You can lock anyone up if you want to. However the sheer practicality of taking them through to the boro  to be processed and taking officers out of town highlights the gross stupidity of having a large police station in the town centre where the process could be done, stood unused.
Ah the joys of centralisation, it only makes sense to the suits and coin counters.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.

Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few. 
That is how it works in real life.

fred c

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 13, 2020, 07: PM
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity .  Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.

You can lock anyone up if you want to. However the sheer practicality of taking them through to the boro  to be processed and taking officers out of town highlights the gross stupidity of having a large police station in the town centre where the process could be done, stood unused.
Ah the joys of centralisation, it only makes sense to the suits and coin counters.

Yeah spot on IK, the closing of Hartlepool police station was a disgrace, Avenue Road was closed on the watch of the worst PCC in England, politicising the position was always going to lead to labour cronyism which in turn lead to Hartlepool getting the shitty end of the stick in its policing needs.






Lucy Lass-Tick

Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.

Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few. 
That is how it works in real life.

Sounds like old fashioned snobbery.

akarjl2

Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.

Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few. 
That is how it works in real life.

as an ex copper i can say that's a load of bollux.....those at he bottom end of the social scale as you put it are as aware of their rights..more so actually as a result of the pool they swim in than the ones who's daddy is a masonic golfer....

Police today are watched like hawks and their actions questioned constantly. Not so the little shites wreaking havoc,

Who cares what happens in the states.

Bottom line is if the little (or big) shits are making life a misery for joe public in Seaton etc (i.e me) lock the bas**ar*s up if nothing else to inconvenience them...if convicted they should be charged for police time..transport etc. we are too soft..if you can't do the time don't do the crime. and yes anti social behaviour ruining people's lives is a crime.
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

Hubris

Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.

Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few. 
That is how it works in real life.
What an imbecile! Such a purile comment is beyond reasoning. You talk about 'real life'. I'd say you need to grow up sir, get out of Greatham occasionally and taste the real world which is full of:-skanks, ne'r do wells, ferals, low-life's, drug-addled tw**s, etc etc. If some of them happen to be connected to your "worthies"...... you are claiming the law enforcement turns a blind eye for the sake of their careers, or a better handicap from the golf club.   You numpty! Hope the next time you are looking for aid from the Boys in Blue they remember you slanderous accusations and leave you to fend for yourself.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.

Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.

You appear to base your knowledge of policing on a script from Z Cars circa 1965. It's 2020,

I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few. 
That is how it works in real life.
Again you base your world view on those 'accounts' that conveniently coincide with your own opinions, which appear to be based more on TV scripts and your own class warrior prejudices than everyday policing in the UK.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.