Labour Win

SRMoore · July 27, 2019, 06: PM

Similar to the fella who spent years saying he wanted Labour to lose control of our council then when it happened decide that he only ever actually wanted rid of some of them cos the rest of Labour are misunderstood and we should back them, then?

The difference in your quoted reference and the statement I made about standing for BP or in a GE is that no matter how terrible the options available I'll never put my name forward for the job for all the tea in China. Happy to put that in stone :p

DRiddle · July 27, 2019, 07: PM

That's not what I said. I was dead against keeping CAB involved at the sharp end of it all, as well you know. My view was, and still is, that said decision to help keep CAB involved would very quickly undo 6 years of work try to establish a truely independent council.

Thursdays result in Hart is an early sign I'm right. What could have been a meaningful stint leading an independent council for you, will now last 10 more months.

Anyway, you're now in charge of running one of the most socially deprived towns in Northern Europe.

Get off social media and crack on with the job.

SRMoore · July 27, 2019, 07: PM

It had nothing to do with helping CAB and everything to do with trying to do it by the book and fairly, not based on spite.

Thursday's result was mixed. 8 vote win on a 16% turnout. Still a win for Labour, absolutely but they threw the kitchen sink at it and had one leaflet reported to the police by the monitoring officer for false information and another currently being investigated by the monitoring officer. The IU had guys on holiday, at work and in hospital so couldn't put in the normal campaign we do.

Plus the general feeling on the doorstep was 'oh not another election' and quite frankly I don't blame them. What's that now, four in about 18 months?

It's Saturday evening, David. I'm all caught up on emails, call backs, reports and ward issues. It's good to find some time to speak to you.

mk1 · July 27, 2019, 08: PM

Quote from: SRMoore on July 27, 2019, 07: PM
It had nothing to do with helping CAB and everything to do with trying to do it by the book and fairly, not based on spite.

You sound like the Democrats in America. They have tried to be 'fair' with the Republicans and for their pains they have been well and truly stuffed. The courts are now packed for a generation with far-right Judges and under their umbrella voter-suppression of minorities is rife in Republican held States. Only this week Republicans blocked any action to stop Russian interference in their election process because they know the Russians are only targeting Democrats. That is what happens when you offer a hand of friendship to a predator-it just bites your 'effing hand off.
The decision to allow CAB in the back door (even if by default) was a cynical ploy that had the bonus that this would stop that group voting against you. You can try hide behind procedure but the fact is that bast*rd should have had his fat ar*se booted right out of the door. He deserves no consideration at all as he offered none when he was in power. It was a stunning act of betrayal cum stupidity and no amount of weasel-words can excuse it. It was a gift to Labour as they had campaigned on a IU 'pact' with SL and after all the denials you enter into something that looked exactly like a pact. It does not matter if a thing is true because if you can sell it as true and support it with credible 'evidence' then it is true.

pensionater · July 28, 2019, 11: AM

Putting lies on leaflets hey? whatever next.

stumped · July 31, 2019, 12: AM

Quote from: SRMoore on July 27, 2019, 07: PM
It had nothing to do with helping CAB and everything to do with trying to do it by the book and fairly, not based on spite.

Thursday's result was mixed. 8 vote win on a 16% turnout. Still a win for Labour, absolutely but they threw the kitchen sink at it and had one leaflet reported to the police by the monitoring officer for false information and another currently being investigated by the monitoring officer. The IU had guys on holiday, at work and in hospital so couldn't put in the normal campaign we do.

Plus the general feeling on the doorstep was 'oh not another election' and quite frankly I don't blame them. What's that now, four in about 18 months?

It's Saturday evening, David. I'm all caught up on emails, call backs, reports and ward issues. It's good to find some time to speak to you.

Interesting point about leaflets Shane. Didn't you use a leaflet in the last Hart by-election stating Aileen Kendon was " CHRISTOPHER AKERS-BELCHERS CANDIDATE". Is this fine? Because it looks like the tables could turn and in 2020 in your ward someone might use the phrase "CHRISTOPHER AKERS-BELCHERS PUPPET".

Grumblstiltskin · August 01, 2019, 02: AM

Quote from: stumped on July 31, 2019, 12: AM
Interesting point about leaflets Shane. Didn't you use a leaflet in the last Hart by-election stating Aileen Kendon was " CHRISTOPHER AKERS-BELCHERS CANDIDATE". Is this fine? Because it looks like the tables could turn and in 2020 in your ward someone might use the phrase "CHRISTOPHER AKERS-BELCHERS PUPPET".

I think you spelled MUPPET wrong

Lucy Lass-Tick · August 01, 2019, 04: PM

It seems that the divisions between the SCAB element & the Pixies is widening ... the SLP has just resurrected the 'Carlgate' story again. Regardless of the morality of the issue, they're having a go at Cllrs Hamilton & Howson as fellow ward councillors. I don't suppose the fact that this goes back as far as 2002 - long before they took up office has struck them as rather unfair. Still, they do say all's fair in love and war ....

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1205989049567586&id=1156923894474102

Grumblstiltskin · August 01, 2019, 09: PM

No matter how much you try and bulls**t Shame, you will always be tainted with the scabs mate, face it you're done in this towns eyes

mk1 · August 01, 2019, 11: PM

Quote from: Grumblstiltskin on August 01, 2019, 09: PM
No matter how much you try and bulls**t Shame, you will always be tainted with the scabs mate, face it you're done in this towns eyes

Don't get involved and don't take sides. Let the two sides fight it out and who cares who is 'right'. Enjoy the mud-slinging and hopefully they will release more dirt on each other.

Grumblstiltskin · August 03, 2019, 01: AM

I don't take sides but come on, we've moved from one of the dodgiest characters ever as a council leader to a twice convicted drunk, what hope is there for us?

mk1 · August 03, 2019, 06: PM

Quote from: Grumblstiltskin on August 03, 2019, 01: AM
I don't take sides but come on, we've moved from one of the dodgiest characters ever..........

I see some confusion has arisen. I was referring to the bun-fight between the Comrades. Let Labour (Socialist, New or Old) roll around in the pig-merde. 'We' should stand back and then be ready to fight the winner.

fred c · August 03, 2019, 10: PM

I all know the problems created under the SCABAL regime and the price we payed, what I don't know are the problems that would be created by new labour under the direction of The Pixies, they s**t stirring, lies and innuendo started 18 month ago.........The propaganda moved up a couple notches when the elections loomed large, no non labour candidate was spared from the trolling, the regular pixies were joined by the Big Windbag who brought his own pompous bollox to the party and it's continued ever since.

mk1 · August 03, 2019, 10: PM

Quote from: fred c on August 03, 2019, 10: PM
the regular pixies were joined by the Big Windbag who brought his own pompous bollox to the party..........

If I was run out of town by people who had the collective IQ of a cabbage I would not dare show my face again. Brash had his bollox chopped right-off and was defenestrated quicker than you can say 'bring back the original clause 4' by a group of complete clowns. I would still be hanging my head in shame.