the rifty is it a charity or is it not ?

[Topcat]

Shane ,my point was not to dig at individual members but to question why a committee chairman should be able to be so generous with public money to an organisation that he is heavily involved with.Are the regen. and neighborhood committee equally as generous with other organisations?

[SRMoore]

And that's a very fair question to ask.

[fred c]

And that's a very fair question to ask.

Shane I know I am preaching to the converted but what boils mine and many others urine is being unable to get answers to question that involve labmob councillors, we all know what happened with MRA & WCNE and who was connected to those and other councillor connected organisations.

I tried to get an answer from a senior council officer about any payments that maybe required for rent / utilities etc etc for the cafe that operates within the Masefield Centre......No reasonable reply was forthcoming....

[Inspector Knacker]

I tried to get an answer from a senior council officer about any payments that maybe required for rent / utilities etc etc for the cafe that operates within the Masefield Centre......No reasonable reply was forthcoming....

But, if they are paying rent and utilities for the use of the business, the council must know. We should be told the costs of rent and utilities for the premises, because this is of no commercial benefit to anyone unless of course a full market rent is not being charged or the full cost of utilities being paid.

[pieface]

12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    

Why multiple applications on the same day for the same purpose instead of one larger grant?

Looks suspiciously like HBC paid for 13 kynren tickets and a private minibus as they couldn't all fit into the HBC1 limo?? Was there a drinks bill granted too

[Inspector Knacker]

But why multiple applications when one application would have sufficed ?

[jawsbbc]

12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    

Why multiple applications on the same day for the same purpose instead of one larger grant?

Looks suspiciously like HBC paid for 13 kynren tickets and a private minibus as they couldn't all fit into the HBC1 limo?? Was there a drinks bill granted too

could that be for the 13 kids that go oops sorry around about  50 according to sab bit like when cranney was running jutland road   on paper it was 20 odd    kids using the youth club  when  really there were only 7   how do i know because i was there they bump the  numbers up for funding  hungry kids, summer clubs, youthys , ect ect

[jeffh]

Apologies Topcat I only saw the earlier dates when I read last night.

If you read the minutes of that meeting though no decision was taken to give money to the Rifty. I don't recall any meeting in which we have approved it.

It may be an 'executive decision'

So as a Councillor & Committee member, will you be able to query why these payments were authorised outside of the scrutiny of the mettings and are there any more in the current financial year that we don't yet know about?

[SRMoore]

I can, yes.

[jeffh]

I can, yes.

That's brilliant - many thanks Sean

[UnknownUser]

could that be for the 13 kids that go oops sorry around about  50 according to sab bit like when cranney was running jutland road   on paper it was 20 odd    kids using the youth club  when  really there were only 7   how do i know because i was there they bump the  numbers up for funding  hungry kids, summer clubs, youthys , ect ect

The Rifty has received funding for every programme of the holiday hunger scheme.

[fred c]

Is there a detailed breakdown of the costs of every meal prepared and the exact number of meals served over the Hungry Kids Scheme....Should any surplus morally be returned to the councils finances and not into the Rifty's or any other providers coffers...

I really do wonder if there are any checks and balances on organisations once they have received council funding or is it just a matter X amount of pounds and that's it.?........It certainly was in the case of MRA and we all know what happened in Kilmarnock Road.

[mk1]

I can, yes.

That's brilliant - many thanks Sean

The 'artlepool 'aitch is left out and name then made into an anagram.   Very clever!

[jawsbbc]

could that be for the 13 kids that go oops sorry around about  50 according to sab bit like when cranney was running jutland road   on paper it was 20 odd    kids using the youth club  when  really there were only 7   how do i know because i was there they bump the  numbers up for funding  hungry kids, summer clubs, youthys , ect ect

The Rifty has received funding for every programme of the holiday hunger scheme.

AS DID JUTLAND ROAD YOUTHY  (OFCA) they were putting in for the grants/schemes  even though there were only around 7 kids going they bumped up the numbers because apparently you have to have so many kids going  to claim it i would like to see a list of names of the kids that were supposedly  going  they know every trick in the book believe me

[jawsbbc]

could that be for the 13 kids that go oops sorry around about  50 according to sab bit like when cranney was running jutland road   on paper it was 20 odd    kids using the youth club  when  really there were only 7   how do i know because i was there they bump the  numbers up for funding  hungry kids, summer clubs, youthys , ect ect

The Rifty has received funding for every programme of the holiday hunger scheme.

can you find anything for jutland road hub/ofca