the rifty is it a charity or is it not ?

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Johnny Bongo

Quote from: UnknownUser on September 24, 2018, 12: PM
Date Awarded   Awarding Department                    Beneficiary                   Purpose of Grant                   "Amount£"
   
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
13/07/2017   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Summer Club    £3,670.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    
21/02/2018   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Christmas project  £1,600.00    
                                                                                                                                                                     £6,570.00    <--Total Funding 17/18

Are all these individual 'contributions' (from HBC) specifically 'donated' in small amounts for a reason?  Is there a limit on how much an individual/ company/ HBC, can donate without being eligible for tax, or it being 'flagged up'?  Who actually made the decision to award the money to the Rifty?  Which Councillor was the Chair of Regen and Neighbourhood Services? Is he/ she still the Chair?  Who is the Chair now?  When all the questions (not just here) are answered, then the pattern which emerges will give the game away....and certain individuals and possibly corporate entities ::) will be in deep $"!T.  Keep digging, guys and gals!   

Inspector Knacker

One point has always puzzled me about this. Why all this attention lavished on one project in one community centre in one part of the ward for how many kids?
I could understand other ward councillors donating to a proper charitable organisation that served all the town and was free of political influence. I still can't comprehend how any councillor would donate so much money to benefit another wards kids. Don't their own wards have kids in them? That is very, very odd.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Owen Jones

Which ward councillors have donated to the shifty and how much did they donate ?

UnknownUser

Quote from: jawsbbc on September 24, 2018, 07: PM
                                                interesting have you anything prior to 2017 unknownuser keep up the good work

Nothing in the 15/16 financial year

Date Awarded   Awarding Department                          Beneficiary                          Purpose of Grant             "Amount £"

27/07/2016   Public Health - Grant Funded          The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Summer Club    3000.00



Date Awarded   Awarding Department                           Beneficiary                   Purpose of Grant                                       "Amount£"
01/08/14           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution towards event WMB                 600.00
24/02/15           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution to the Rifty Youth Project         150.00
24/03/15           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution towards Rifty Youth                 600.00



When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

Topcat

Does anyone know exactly who serves on the regen. and neighbourhood services committee?

Topcat

www.hartlepool.gov.uk/democraticservices
Friday 30 June, 2017
at 10.00 am
in the Council Chamber
Civic Centre, Hartlepool.
MEMBERS: NEIGHBOURHOOD SERVICES COMMITTEE
Councillors, Belcher, Hind, Hunter, James, Lawton, Loynes, and Richardson.
MEMBERS: REGENERATION SERVICES COMMITTEE:
Councillors S Akers-Belcher, Cook, Cranney, Lindridge, Loynes, Moore and Thompson
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
2. TO RECEIVE ANY DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST BY MEMBERS
3. BUDGET AND POLICY FRAMEWORK ITEMS
None.
4. KEY DECISIONS
4.1 Town Centre Highway Improvements - Director of Regeneration and
Neighbourhoods
5. OTHER ITEMS REQUIRING DECISION
None
6. ITEMS FOR INFORMATION
None.
7. ANY OTHER BUSINESS WHICH THE CHAIR CONSIDERS URGENT
JOINT MEETING OF
NEIGHBOURHOOD SERVICES
COMMITTEE AND
REGENERATION SERVICES
COMMITTEE

Well there's a surprise, the usual suspects strongly in evidence.

jawsbbc

Quote from: UnknownUser on September 25, 2018, 08: AM
Quote from: jawsbbc on September 24, 2018, 07: PM
                                                interesting have you anything prior to 2017 unknownuser keep up the good work

Nothing in the 15/16 financial year

Date Awarded   Awarding Department                          Beneficiary                          Purpose of Grant             "Amount £"

27/07/2016   Public Health - Grant Funded          The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Summer Club    3000.00



Date Awarded   Awarding Department                           Beneficiary                   Purpose of Grant                                       "Amount£"
01/08/14           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution towards event WMB                 600.00
24/02/15           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution to the Rifty Youth Project         150.00
24/03/15           Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Contribution towards Rifty Youth                 600.00
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS HOW MUCH HAS REALLY GONE  TO THE RIFTY/RIFTY PROJECT

http://hptimbral.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/index.php/topic,4081.msg43034.html#msg43034

   
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-akers-belcher-Volunteer Experience & Causes
Youth Leader
The Rifty Youth Project
July 2009 – Present  9 years 3 months

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/stephen-akers-belcher

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/hartlepool-mayor-raises-21-000-for-two-town-charities-1-9177866

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/stephen-akers-belcher-1

https://www.cleveland.pcc.police.uk/Document-Library/Decisions/Made-By-the-PCC/2016/Scan7687.pdf

https://hartlepoolresidents.co.uk/community-news/the-rifty-youth-project-is-please-to-be-welcoming-some-new-volunteers-to-our-project.-they-have-a-wo-1339




https://www.stockton.gov.uk/stockton-council/blogs/mayors-blog/september-2017/week-commencing-4-september-2017/


https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/news/article/925/youngsters_love_free_holiday_club

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/councillor-s-relief-as-name-cleared-1-3876142


https://www.cleveland.pcc.police.uk/Document-Library/Decisions/Made-By-the-PCC/2015/PCC-Scan-77.pdf


https://www.cleveland.pcc.police.uk/Document-Library/Decisions/Made-By-the-PCC/2015/PCC-Scan-77.pdf






jeffh

Let's not forget that these donations DO NOT include the funds that have been moved from various Labour Councillors' Ward budgets to the Rifty House fund - we know that Paul Beck was not averse to letting them a couple of thousand.


SRMoore

Quote from: Topcat on September 25, 2018, 09: AM
www.hartlepool.gov.uk/democraticservices
Friday 30 June, 2017
at 10.00 am
in the Council Chamber
Civic Centre, Hartlepool.
MEMBERS: NEIGHBOURHOOD SERVICES COMMITTEE
Councillors, Belcher, Hind, Hunter, James, Lawton, Loynes, and Richardson.
MEMBERS: REGENERATION SERVICES COMMITTEE:
Councillors S Akers-Belcher, Cook, Cranney, Lindridge, Loynes, Moore and Thompson
1. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
2. TO RECEIVE ANY DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST BY MEMBERS
3. BUDGET AND POLICY FRAMEWORK ITEMS
None.
4. KEY DECISIONS
4.1 Town Centre Highway Improvements - Director of Regeneration and
Neighbourhoods
5. OTHER ITEMS REQUIRING DECISION
None
6. ITEMS FOR INFORMATION
None.
7. ANY OTHER BUSINESS WHICH THE CHAIR CONSIDERS URGENT
JOINT MEETING OF
NEIGHBOURHOOD SERVICES
COMMITTEE AND
REGENERATION SERVICES
COMMITTEE

Well there's a surprise, the usual suspects strongly in evidence.

Those donations were made by Regeneration in 2014 & 2015. You listed the 2017 make up of the regen committee, which includes myself. I and others currently on that committee were not councillors when these payments were made.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: Johnny Bongo on September 24, 2018, 09: PM

12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    

Why multiple applications on the same day for the same purpose instead of one larger grant?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Land Phil

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on September 26, 2018, 07: AM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on September 24, 2018, 09: PM

12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    

Why multiple applications on the same day for the same purpose instead of one larger grant?

Per person ?

fred c

Shane, thanks for making it perfectly clear that you had nothing to do with this  :)

However, what really needs to be explained is, how many councillors on that committee made contributions, who were they and why did they feel it necessary to make contributions to an organisation that isn't in their wards..... ::)

Topcat

Shane look again ,I was referring to the long list of donations made during 2017  when the meeting in my post was held.

SRMoore

Apologies Topcat I only saw the earlier dates when I read last night.

If you read the minutes of that meeting though no decision was taken to give money to the Rifty. I don't recall any meeting in which we have approved it.

It may be an 'executive decision'

jeffh

The 2017-18 Neighbourhood Services committee was
Belcher (S)
Hind
Hunter
James
Lawton
Loynes
Richardson
James was initially chair then Hunter

The 2017-18 Regeneration Committee was
Akers-Belcher (S)
Cook
Cranney (Chair)
Lindridge
Loynes
Moore
Thompson