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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: Inspector Knacker on September 11, 2020, 07: PM

Title: York Road.
Post by: Inspector Knacker on September 11, 2020, 07: PM
So..... it's to be closed to all but buses, bikes and taxis between 10am and 4pm on a trial basis.
Trial basis or testing the water...?
Stockton Street , Wooler Road/Catcote Road and several quiet streets may become a bit busier, as the displaced traffic will have to go somewhere.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 11, 2020, 08: PM
There is no need to have that section of York Road open for cars. It should have been pedestrianised years ago. On Fridays it is so full of traffic it might as well be closed and if you want cheap amusement can sit and  watch all the selfish cars cross over the York Rd/Grange Rd junction who,  even though it is blocked ahead, go across  and they then block all traffic from the side of the junction.  Use Stockton Street you lazy buggers!
Title: Bring back the birch
Post by: akarjl2 on September 12, 2020, 05: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on September 11, 2020, 07: PM
So..... it's to be closed to all but buses, bikes and taxis between 10am and 4pm on a trial basis.
Trial basis or testing the water...?
Stockton Street , Wooler Road/Catcote Road and several quiet streets may become a bit busier, as the displaced traffic will have to go somewhere.

I sense a vision coming on involving fancy art work, palm trees and outdoor eateries with people enjoying the balmy autumn nights sat at tables social distancing.

You can tell who on here plods around the town or climbs on busses ( free bus pass obviously) to try and prove a point....it is obviously an idea that originated with the bong eyed loonies - surely they should just ban cars completely from anything east of A19.....or bring back the man with red flag/horse and carts?

Things were much better int' good old, days bring back the birch I say! Must be a you tube video about that.....
Title: Re: Bring back the birch
Post by: mk1 on September 12, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on September 12, 2020, 05: AM
bring back the birch I say! Must be a you tube video about that.....

Birch?
Birch?
Did somebody mention a Birch Tree?

Feast your eyes on this philistine, get some real kulture from our glorious Russian sisters......


https://vimeo.com/457178358
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: The Great Dictator on September 12, 2020, 11: AM



   Closing that section of road will damage the retailers within it.

   18000 cars see those shops everyday and know where to go back and book a holiday, fix their shoes, buy a pram.....etc etc etc.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 12, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: The Great Dictator on September 12, 2020, 11: AM



   Closing that section of road will damage the retailers within it.

   18000 cars see those shops everyday and know where to go back and book a holiday, fix their shoes, buy a pram.....etc etc etc.

You can not stop in that section and you can not turn off it. It is nothing but a short-cut for cars. A lot  of the trouble is caused by selfish motorists who stop in the bus-bays and then 'pop over to the cash machine' and block the busses.  I am sure there are better uses for this section than a parade of free advertising for the shops within.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: akarjl2 on September 12, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: mk1 on September 12, 2020, 05: PM
You can not stop in that section and you can not turn off it. It is nothing but a short-cut for cars. A lot  of the trouble is caused by selfish motorists who stop in the bus-bays and then 'pop over to the cash machine' and block the busses.  I am sure there are better uses for this section than a parade of free advertising for the shops within.

Bollux

it will still be used by
buses= belching out fumes stuffed with bus pass users
Bikes- Lycra clad morons who think they own the road- have no training and more importantly no insurance
Taxis - Hoovering up drunks and druggies too/from the bars

I guess HBC will offer a massive reduction in business rates to anyone unfortunate enough to have a business on that section of road that will experience a drop in revenue due to a clowncil who cant even run themselfs trying to ruin their businesses?
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 12, 2020, 06: PM
Make the No 6 (and all busses)go down Grange Road, along Stockton Street in front of the college and back up Park road. Then they could grab a bit of the car Parks and make a real bus station.  Years ago most of the busses ran that way and up through Stranton.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: The Great Dictator on September 12, 2020, 08: PM



   Yes MK1 you cannot stop but the slow crawl makes drivers and passengers notice shops they may not have seen before, the landlords will be extremely worried about this foolish tactic.
Title: The exotic world of Lycra
Post by: akarjl2 on September 13, 2020, 07: AM
Call me cynical but this smacks of the piglets wanting to stick their snouts into some trough offering money for cycle lanes to be constructed- which are never used by cyclists- like the ones on King Oswy Drive.

Are handouts available for clowncils who build cycle paths ?

Have Mr and Mrs, Craneosoaurus, the drunk driver and the other leeches at Fawlty Towers developed a sudden interest in Lycra and sweaty bums?

There is no way they will be spending clowncil money on this muppetry - and if they are they should be challenged and publicly humiliated.....well ok publicly humiliated AGAIN.

Standby for artwork of cyclists visiting cycle shops in the middle of winter on York road......then having their mountain bikes knicked.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: Johnny Bongo on September 14, 2020, 09: PM
The road sign placed at the Park Rd/York Rd junction is headed 'Covid 19'. Can anyone explain the link between Covid 19 and closing this stretch of road? 
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 15, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on September 14, 2020, 09: PM
The road sign placed at the Park Rd/York Rd junction is headed 'Covid 19'. Can anyone explain the link between Covid 19 and closing this stretch of road?
I believe (do not quote me) that the rationale is road closed so more room for shoppers to  maintain 'distance' from each other. It is a Boris diktat.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: akarjl2 on September 15, 2020, 11: AM
Quote from: mk1 on September 15, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on September 14, 2020, 09: PM
The road sign placed at the Park Rd/York Rd junction is headed 'Covid 19'. Can anyone explain the link between Covid 19 and closing this stretch of road?
I believe (do not quote me) that the rationale is road closed so more room for shoppers to  maintain 'distance' from each other. It is a Boris diktat.

I still think there is some money in the trough ....
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: The Great Dictator on September 15, 2020, 11: AM



   Having experienced the traffic department at council on many levels I can tell you that they will think of any lame excuse or even blatantly lie to have a road closed

   and when it does it will never open again.

   If COVID is the reason then it is just a convenient excuse because shoppers in York Road are few and far between, schools and pubs are far more populated.

   Should I or any other trader at the south side of York Rd. wish to visit the north of the town we will either use the over populated road in Stockton St. or the rat run

   of Osborne/St.Pauls Rd. where many residents including children cross those back roads constantly therefore it will become the responsibility of Shane Moore and the traffic officers

   if there is a serious accident or a fatality.

   
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: akarjl2 on September 15, 2020, 01: PM
Quote from: The Great Dictator on September 15, 2020, 11: AM
Shane Mxxxx and the traffic officers

Well Shane is no traffic officer but no doubt has plenty of experience with the traffic department as a 2 x convicted drunk driver.

He's a disgrace who should not be in the position he is in.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: diSme on September 22, 2020, 11: AM
This morning York road, while a little quieter than normal, still had plenty of regular traffic using it. It seems people were just basically ignoring the signs.

Bloody stupid idea anyway if you ask me. How can this hairbrained scheme make social distancing any easier? It's not as though people are going to be able to walk along the road. And as others have pointed out, the displaced traffic will have to go somewhere potentially increasing the risk of an accident in the more pedestrianised rat run streets that don't have crossings.

I've ceased being amazed at the idiocy running this town.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: The Great Dictator on September 23, 2020, 10: AM


  Its utter nonsense, the officers have been trying to close it for 30 years but councillors have always rejected it.

  It will slow traffic down badly on all other main roads, I have pointed this out to Shane but he seems to think that the officers have our interests at heart.

  I will be using the road as normal as I class myself as a service vehicle [bit like a taxi] and I cross town at least 10 times a day in my job.

  Who are the councillors for St.Pauls Rd and Osborne Rd ?
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 26, 2020, 08: PM
I checked the research done on Pedestrianisation. It would appear that, contrary to popular belief, when an area is made traffic-free footfall either stays the same or increases. The overwhelming majority of studies done worldwide agree on this point.
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: akarjl2 on September 28, 2020, 11: AM
Quote from: mk1 on September 26, 2020, 08: PM
I checked the research done on Pedestrianisation.

...of course you did.....::) ::)::) ::)::) ::)::) ::)::) ::)
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: Devils advocate on September 29, 2020, 10: AM
Quote from: mk1 on September 26, 2020, 08: PM
I checked the research done on Pedestrianisation. It would appear that, contrary to popular belief, when an area is made traffic-free footfall either stays the same or increases. The overwhelming majority of studies done worldwide agree on this point.

All research on pedestrianisation done pre-pandemic.
So pointless you doing the research really, wasn't it?
Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: mk1 on September 29, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Devils advocate on September 29, 2020, 10: AM


All research on pedestrianisation done pre-pandemic.
So pointless you doing the research really, wasn't it?
No. I gave the facts but unfortunately cannot make the horse drink.
However I do know which way the wind is blowing.

See the new style of pedestrianised roundabout.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-53947440

Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8KwO_MmO4&ab_channel=TerryHarris

The car is no longer King.

Title: Re: York Road.
Post by: akarjl2 on September 30, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: mk1 on September 29, 2020, 06: PM

See the new style of pedestrianised roundabout.


...and where exactly are the roundabouts on York road?

Yawn more irrelevant drivel from our resident fence sitter..

When was the last time you drove in Holland?

I was driving around Rotterdam recently- roads much better than UK and traffic flow calm and controlled.

Believe it or not there is a WORLD out there should you choose to move off your fence......and no Youtube is not reality.

You really need to get out more.....then again that probably involves being on a bus with a pass.