A 2009 study of the effectiveness of mask.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/
Compliance was low but data from on those that did wear mask showed a significant reduction in transmission.
Interesting bit:
During the 2006 and 2007 winter seasons, 286 exposed adults from 143 households who had been exposed to a child with clinical respiratory illness were recruited. We found that adherence to mask use significantly reduced the risk for ILI-associated infection, but <50% of participants wore masks most of the time. We concluded that household use of face masks is associated with low adherence and is ineffective for controlling seasonal respiratory disease. However, during a severe pandemic when use of face masks might be greater, pandemic transmission in households could be reduced.
and?
If rules are not enforced then it is all pointless - all we can do is adopt a personal protection approach especially while morons are standing less than 1 meter apart at Seaton for fish n chips and holding raves etc.
A certain generation think they invincible and will never take the risks seriously - until someone close to them succumbs....then it will be a race/lack of action by government blame culture as opposed to shut the f*c* up and do as you are told.....
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 04, 2020, 09: AM
A certain generation think they invincible and will never take the risks seriously -
I beg to differ. I see a lot of 'older' people spouting conspiracy theory garbage. It is a coalition of anti-vaxxer/anti Soros/anti-deep State lunatics who think they (and they alone) are the keepers of the truth whilst everyone else is castigated as sheep.
Its an offensive by a coalition of the credulous. Full-on nutcases are leading the charge but they are helped by the multitude of functional illiterates who thrive on social meeja.
This public stupidity is not a new thing. It was first studied by US Intelligence Agencies back in the 1950s when they used it to create (among other things) the 'Flying Saucer' hysteria and reinforce their anti-Communist agenda.
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Note that the aim of all this is not to make everyone believe the latest crazy lies but rather to condition the not so nutty people to seeing many contradictory claims. To confuse people so they do not know what is real and what is lies so they stop accepting
any explanation. It appears to be working and there are a number of studies on Conspiracy Theorists about that describe the personality types who believe this garbage. It appears to be mainly projection. Because the people who believe conspiracy theories would have no hesitation lying and making things up to further their agenda then they are willing to believe the other side are making the stuff up as well.
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 04, 2020, 09: AM
and?
If rules are not enforced then it is all pointless - .....
Which is exactly the conclusion of the Paper I linked.
Quote from: mk1 on August 04, 2020, 11: AM
the people who believe conspiracy theories would have no hesitation lying and making things up to further their agenda
aka politicians ...especially local ones and anyone who "believes" organised religions have anything to do with some "divine being".
Quote from: mk1 on August 04, 2020, 11: AM
I beg to differ.
What a surprise.
Try travelling by air for business these days- 0800 and pax bar at NCL full of 18-30 on the p**s no social distancing. Muppets on a rammed plane removing their face masks to swill free booze arguing staff and fellow pax.
Unfortunately the real world is not reflected on line and no matter how many sites you visit and link, to sitting on your fence, you obviously have no idea what is actually happening outside your bubble.
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 04, 2020, 04: PM
What a surprise.
No.
This is a surprise, a nice surprise. The guitar player got an eyeful and James Last had a good look as well!
https://vimeo.com/444618261
how odd an irrelevant video......
next
funny tho :D :D :D
Quote from: kevplumb on August 04, 2020, 09: PM
funny tho.....
It all goes right over his head........
Quote from: mk1 on August 04, 2020, 10: PM
It all goes right over his head........
Nope - Old vids on YouTube provide nothing- even a laugh.
Sat astride the fence, massaging your piles whilst pontificating about BLMUK/Fruitcakes/loonies/CIA/FBI etc on a small town forum and wandering round the internet is not actually real life, it's a hobby ( all be it a weird hobby)......working and travelling in the middle of a Covid pandemic gives you the real picture the REAL world. If the care home will allow you and your rail pass is still valid you should try wandering around this "brave new world".
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 05, 2020, 06: AM
Old vids on YouTube provide nothing- even a laugh.
Wrong....................
https://vimeo.com/444851814
Obviously reduced bandwidth in the care home
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 05, 2020, 06: AM
you should try wandering around this "brave new world".
I did. Lenina and I had a great time in New Mexico. We brought Linda and John back with us but John was a bit weird, kept quoting Shakespeare all the time. I would like to thank Mustapha Mond for allowing me to move to the serenity of the Falklands
And in this parallel universe ....
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on August 05, 2020, 07: PM
And in this parallel universe ....
Dystopian and speculative maybe but definitely not parallel.
However its not complete fiction.
I see Facebook have stuck a warning about such things on the FB site.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/273708489455822/permalink/1718233368336653/
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 05, 2020, 01: PM
Obviously reduced bandwidth in the care home secure unit.
My story.....
https://vimeo.com/444872994
Retarded tattooed skank attention seeker gets owned by infuriated guy and now police are looking for him because SHE feels threatened.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8597037/Instagram-model-slams-foul-mouthed-man-accosted-failing-cover-face-Tube.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8597037/Instagram-model-slams-foul-mouthed-man-accosted-failing-cover-face-Tube.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field)
No need to find the guy get her prosecuted, shamed and fined.
Over a week since we had some YouTube drivel about BLM/Loonies/ anything else negative about Britain.
Am I the only one missing my daily does of MK1 muppetry?
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 13, 2020, 05: AM
Over a week since we had some YouTube drivel about BLM/Loonies/ anything else negative about Britain.
Am I the only one missing my daily does of MK1 muppetry?
Classic bait post.
Quote from: Tee_Ess_25er on August 13, 2020, 09: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on August 13, 2020, 05: AM
Over a week since we had some YouTube drivel about BLM/Loonies/ anything else negative about Britain.
Am I the only one missing my daily does of MK1 muppetry?
Classic bait post.
Correct. :)
Why all the fuss? So a few old codgers die but hey they was old anyway?
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Latest episode of the Dick van Dyke show in the current Viz:
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
Key Points
Question
What are the cardiovascular effects in unselected
patients with recent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
Findings
In this cohort study including 100 patients recently
recovered from COVID-19 identified from a COVID-19 test center,
cardiac magnetic resonance imaging revealed cardiac involvement
in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in
60 patients (60%), which was independent of preexisting
conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the
time from the original diagnosis.
Meaning
These findings indicate the need for ongoing
investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/this-is-how-common-long-covid-is_uk_5f3e46bac5b6dd14014a8ab8
Almost three quarters of people admitted to a hospital with coronavirus suffer ongoing symptoms three months later, a study has found.
Most of the patients report improvements in their initial symptoms of fever, cough and loss of sense of smell. Yet the study adds to the growing body of evidence suggesting 'long Covid' is a problem.
Researchers found 81 out of 110 patients discharged from Southmead Hospital in Bristol were still experiencing symptoms such as breathlessness, excessive fatigue and muscle aches when invited back to clinic three months later.
The point being?
Some people are more easily reeled in than others it seems.
An Australian Police Inspector pulls no punches. Sovereign Citizens/Anti-vaxers/anti-masker/anti-5G, one and all delusional nut-jobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37S1HnjZvk
And?
Julia Hartley-Broo-Ha caught peddling lies
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/false-positives-coronavirus_uk_5f686da4c5b6de79b677e909
Note the fruitcakes who like her fiction.
Not the first time Broo-Ha has been caught spreading lies. See here how George Galloway exposes a fake quote she tweeted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNTj90b59jA&ab_channel=talkRADIO
Is Julia a denier?
Here is a link to the Post Facebook page where Julia link claims that a second wave of Covid 'will not happen'.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/273708489455822/permalink/1757492404410749/
Not sure why this thread still exists under the Local Issues and Matters sub...
Quote from: diSme on September 24, 2020, 12: AM
Not sure why this thread still exists under the Local Issues and Matters sub...
Covid is local.
Besides which I copied in a link on the Posts Facebook page which also used a Julia Hartley-Broo-Ha film clip and if it is local on the Facebbok page then it is local on the Post Forum page.
There is (sometimes) method in my madness!
Quote from: mk1 on September 24, 2020, 01: AM
There is (sometimes) method in my madness!
Ahh MK1 where have you been? Piles troubling you sitting on your fence? No net in the unit?
Quote from: mk1 on September 23, 2020, 05: PM
George Galloway
Epitomizes the word "fruitcake"