Pictures on Facebook of Barclay and CAB out together canvassing. Really?
Who's supporting who?
Admittedly they could be doing a jumble collection to raise funds for fallen Councillors in their twilight years, but if it was for the local elections it's a whole new ball game. A veritable can of worms.
Bizarre ...
Beyond bizarre.
If SAB is helping Comrade Barclays attempt to get re-elected, surely that's against the official Labour candidate?
If Comrade Barclay is helping SAB and the official Labour candidate he's polling against himself?
Just imagine the scenario..."I'm the candidate for the Worker's Revolutionary Socialist Labour Party of West Hartlepool and I'm asking you under no circumstances to even consider voting for me. I'm a candidate, but I won't even be voting for myself because I'll be voting for one of my opponents as I consider myself not worth voting for. Thank you for listening, now slap me in the face and tell me to clear off. Have a nice day and don't forget, DON'T VOTE FOR ME !!!".
This is definitely SAB helping Barclay - afterball the last thing the SCABs want is a Labour councillor who won't support the good cause
It says CAB in the original post, SAB later on and I've not seen the SM photo(s) so I cannot say which of the 2 it is, but either way it is a high ranking member of the Local Labour Party helping the opposition to get elected as councilor - so tell me now that there are no grounds for him to be at least suspended while an investigation takes place.
And if it is CAB helping Father Jack because he's so disillusioned with the Labour Party, the why the heck hasn't he resigned like any self respecting person would ?... Oh. Hang on. I think that's one of them there er, Rhetorical questions. We all know why.
Discussion & snapshot on the Post FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/273708489455822/permalink/1292888540871140/
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well done MK1 i had to enlarge it to see its definitely sab
Come on Labour North hes making you a laughing stock!!
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Quote from: mk1 on April 11, 2019, 12: PM
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well done MK1 i had to enlarge it to see its definitely sab
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156281737164016&set=pcb.1293016900858304&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Things must be really bad when they have to take this kind of risk. They have no helpers at all. It might be a good idea to keep watch on Mammy Belcher. Given she claims severe mobility problems she will struggle to do her own leaflet drops. I can't see the likes of Katie risking her (future glittering) career in Labour's 'Wimmin' & 'Animal Rights' areas in order to help her out..
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If anyone knows who lives in the houses and can show SAB was delivering Barclay's leaflets it could get really interesting.
Thanks to Hartlepool TV: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2619965231411218
Well, this proves without a shadow of doubt that SAB has s**t in his "Labour Party" nest, you can bet your mortgage on the fact that the Pixies will have been in touch with Labour Northv with details and photographs.
I got a 6 month ban from council premises for calling him a blithering idiot, this proves I was right.
Quote from: mk1 on April 11, 2019, 02: PM
If anyone knows who lives in the houses and can show SAB was delivering Barclay's leaflets it could get really interesting.
sab was delivering his leaflets pic taken by a member of the public in conrad walk https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156282174584016&set=pcb.1293016900858304&type=3&theater&ifg=1
pic is on the leaflet sab has behind his back
Just a hunch....but I'd say that it isn't SAB on that photo with Barclay! Hope I'm wrong and then nature will take its course, so to speak! But.......mmm?
The newest New 'new New' Labour are trying their hardest to make out it is The SCABs and The Independents working together.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1038717826332552&id=982335555304113&__xts__
They should worry about their own. Tom Cooke is on the moderates hit-list as they try to purge Corbyn's Labour.
of the virulent anti-Semites faction. You only have to check the massive multi-ID trolling factory run by Corbyn's Local Labour faction a year or two back to see how deeply anti-Jewish they all are.
The Hartlepool Labour Party civil war & infighting pushes the town back into the National Headlines and gains us more negative press.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-47807652
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Quote from: Johnny Bongo on April 11, 2019, 08: PM
Just a hunch....but I'd say that it isn't SAB on that photo with Barclay! Hope I'm wrong and then nature will take its course, so to speak! But.......mmm?
Really? So who is the 'little helper' ? A SAB tribute act ? A doppelgänger who just happened to be passing by?
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on April 11, 2019, 08: PM
Just a hunch....but I'd say that it isn't SAB on that photo with Barclay! Hope I'm wrong and then nature will take its course, so to speak! But.......mmm?
Ok I am going to out myself. I was the one who took the photos yesterday morning as I was on my way to work. That was 100% SAB with Barclay and as soon as SAB saw me with my phone taking pictures, he put his hands straight behind his back as he was holding a pile of leaflets in them having just pushed one through the door of the house you can see him coming out of. My only regret is that they spotted my virtually straight away so I hurried in taking the pictures.
Thank you.
Fair enough....but to me, his head didn't look the same as in other photos...it looked narrower, not the usual Michelin man look! It's amazing what a change of hair (style) can do!
Ah, you mean he appeared to have a human head.
And this morning at 7:40 Barclay was getting dropped off by the other Akers Belcher just near Lindsay Road, bent as nine bob notes the lot of them
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on April 12, 2019, 09: AM
Fair enough....but to me, his head didn't look the same as in other photos...it looked narrower, not the usual Michelin man look! It's amazing what a change of hair (style) can do!
JB.......The slightly different look is down to the transplant, his vanity obviously pushed him into spending cash on a cosmetic procedure, but it does seem to be coming along quite nicely.
Quote from: no6bus on April 15, 2019, 08: AM
And this morning at 7:40 Barclay was getting dropped off by the other Akers Belcher just near Lindsay Road, bent as nine bob notes the lot of them
So much for my request to keep it off soc media / internet........
Yet to be confirmed but there are rumours that SAB has been suspended from the Labour party.
Quote from: admin on April 15, 2019, 07: PM
Yet to be confirmed but there are rumours that SAB has been suspended from the Labour party.
I could think of better things to 'suspend' him from
I'm not sure whether this whole story is just a bit of whimsy. We'll see.
Quote from: diSme on April 15, 2019, 07: PM
I could think of better things to 'suspend' him from
He is safe from that fate. He has no neck and thus no chin.....................
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Was SAB anything other than a money collecting dummy.
Wonder who's helping Mammy dish out her leaflets?
If he is suspended from the Labour Party , is he still alllowed to continue his roles as a Councillor ?
Quote from: Nice on April 16, 2019, 08: AM
If he is suspended from the Labour Party , is he still alllowed to continue his roles as a Councillor ?
I think the answer to that is yes - Ged Hall walked the floor but remained as councillor.
He would remain as a councillor for the Manor but would have no political affilitiation, so he couldn't vote for his husband as leader of the Council Labour party.
Yes, not sure about him remaining as chairman of the neighbourhood services committee though.
I think it puts an end to any ambitions of him being made a Freeman of the Borough and having a life sized portrait hanging in the civic..........hehehehehehe
Quote from: fred c on April 16, 2019, 08: AM
I think it puts an end to any ambitions of him being made a Freeman of the Borough and having a life sized portrait hanging in the civic..........hehehehehehe
I don't think they make a canvas for a life size portrait that big, they'd need an industrial size canvas.
Official Labour press release at 11am today. SAB claiming bullying/homophobia/antisemitism/disability discrimination (delete as appropriate) expected at around 11.01am
Quote from: DRiddle on April 16, 2019, 10: AM
Official Labour press release at 11am today. SAB claiming bullying/homophobia/antisemitism/disability discrimination (delete as appropriate) expected at around 11.01am
I'm interested to hear the reasoning on both sides...
Quote from: DRiddle on April 16, 2019, 10: AM
Official Labour press release at 11am today. SAB claiming bullying/homophobia/antisemitism/disability discrimination (delete as appropriate) expected at around 11.01am
I doubt it'll be that quick, they'll need someone to proof read his response and correct the mistakes. 12:00 I reckon, directly to the mail.
I have a feeling this was expected and considered as collateral damage /short term issue , in that a temporary suspension could be "lived with" . We can only hope a full expulsion scuppers their cunning plan :-) Of course I could be wrong and he really is as thick as my nana's mince :-)
Having worked very closely with all these people in a previous capacity I can confirm that SAB is not the shiniest button on a coat.
CAB calls the shots along with MD, he just goes along and does as he is told. I would imagine most of his bad calls have arisen from bad advice.
Let's hope that today's suspension is the start of a bigger collapse.
Quote from: Call Me Al on April 16, 2019, 12: PM
Having worked very closely with all these people in a previous capacity I can confirm that SAB is not the shiniest button on a coat.
CAB calls the shots along with MD, he just goes along and does as he is told. I would imagine most of his bad calls have arisen from bad advice.
Let's hope that today's suspension is the start of a bigger collapse.
Could I suggest it has been more to do with not listening to advice
Quote from: jeffh on April 16, 2019, 02: PM
Could I suggest it has been more to do with not listening to advice
You could do a search hear and find's Steve's old post where he warns Brash that a Cabal was forming in Owton Manor that was going to seize control of the local party.. The Labour cyphers all said it was a ridiculous charge and everything was fine between the brothers. It ended up with Brash and wife sent to Siberea for re-education and now we see the payback as the booters now become the booted.
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/shock-snub-in-race-for-top-police-role-1-4601654
I wonder which of the new Corbyn mob is going to form a gang and seize control from Anth and Co when they, as they all do, feck up? Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it...................
The Party never forgives nor forgets. It's akin to a religious cult where you are free to think if you think what they say you must think. Falling out with them is not really an option. Party always come first.
There's a masochistic/subservience part to being a member of any Party. A compliant member is a happy member and it avoids having to think.
given this prediction from 2012 ....
Quote from: steveL on June 20, 2012, 01: PM
Poor Drummond didn't come out of it too well. A case of damned if he turned up; damned if he didn't. As it happens - he didn't, probably to stop him being accused of being too close to the issue. Even so, he still got slated for going public with his thoughts in The Mail.
It's a sign of things to come, I reckon. Akers-Belcher has his sights on that Leader of the Council role
and the executive power and allowance that comes with it so it's going to be a case of all guns aimed at Drummond for some time to come.
And this by The Dear Leader on 'fake' Labour candidates, I wonder what he thinks of the Mother-Law's actions?:
Quote from: steveL on April 11, 2013, 02: PM
There're some interesting quotes from CAB in today's Mail article about the resignation of Brash and Hargreaves. To me they suggest that it is not the two who have wandered away from labour but rather the town's labour group who have cast themselves adrift.
". . . but Labour group leader, Christopher Akers-Belcher, said there is no such term as "independent Labour" and said they should seek re-election through a by-election."
"Coun Akers-Belcher said: "They are no longer in the Labour Group and given they have been so vocal on political principles they have no mandate to be a councillor and as such should abide by their conscience and seek re-election through a duly called by-election.
"They were elected as Labour candidates and once they lose that brand they speak for no-one but themselves.""
That last sentence seems to say it all in that 'speaking for no one but themselves' seems to be the most common complaint against the self-enriching, cabal currently leading the labour group. Is not the Peer Group's finding revealing the perception that some councillors are acting out of self-interest the very reason we are about to see an enquiry into the matter?
There's a world of difference between speaking for yourself based on what you believe and speaking for yourself to inflate your own bank account. The fact that CAB doesn't seem to understand the difference is, I guess, at the root of many of the labour group's current problems.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/question-row-pair-resign-1-5572636
"If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by."
I wonder if CAB will say the same thing about His partner SAB, mother-in-law and friend(?) Barclay?
Quote from: steveL on April 11, 2013, 02: PM
". . . but Labour group leader, Christopher Akers-Belcher, said there is no such term as "independent Labour" and said they should seek re-election through a by-election."
"Coun Akers-Belcher said: "They are no longer in the Labour Group and given they have been so vocal on political principles they have no mandate to be a councillor and as such should abide by their conscience and seek re-election through a duly called by-election.
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on April 16, 2019, 11: PM
I wonder if CAB will say the same thing about His partner SAB, mother-in-law and friend(?) Barclay?
If SAB does (leave / get pushed from) the Labour Party and stays on as an "independent" councillor then the question definitely needs to be directed at the Council Leader at the first full meeting as SAB still has a significant amount of time left on his term.
Will he not join his mother & Barclay as Socialist Labour? Or maybe they won't accept him. Believe that the Independent Union won't entertain such a faction.
Their time is up. So jumping ship and starting afresh is their only option to hang on.
I think they're going to find it a traumatic experience when the penny drops like a cast iron manhole cover and they realise the only reason they were elected in the first place was their Party badge. It was never their intrepid leadership, statesmanlike demeanour or dynamic plans for the town because they never possessed those traits in the first place, simply the biggest elbows in the Party.
Only option, join another Party or stand as an Independent and try and leave blaming someone else or thing for your reluctant departure. I can see more going.
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Quote from: Inspector Knacker on April 17, 2019, 03: PM
Their time is up. So jumping ship and starting afresh is their only option to hang on.
I think they're going to find it a traumatic experience when the penny drops like a cast iron manhole cover and they realise the only reason they were elected in the first place was their Party badge. It was never their intrepid leadership, statesmanlike demeanour or dynamic plans for the town because they never possessed those traits in the first place, simply the biggest elbows in the Party.
It was 'Virtue Signalling' writ large. They were part of Mandy's little group of 'close friends' and the local party (Jonathan 'with an 'a' included) thought it would be a spiffing idea to get a gay couple into positions of power to hoover up the pink vote. Turns out that not all oppressed minorities are good or competent people. The pair are shallow, vindictive and without any moral compass whatsoever. They were also the poison apples that infected the barrel . Merde attracts flies and the con-men knew an opening (see ditching of the town plan) when they saw it. Ray seems to have gotten most of the cream but a not insubstantial sum found its way into local beauty Parlours. The Botox injectors and the
'Back, Sack & Crack' operatives made a mint. I shudder thinking about those who had to get get up close and personal to 25 stone of festering lard oozing from the table-they at least earned their reward!
The only reason the Local Party are trying to turf them out is because they are now losing them votes, When they were corrupt greedy lying baskets but raking in the votes Carl & Co. could live with their avarice, once it started to look like it would cost them power then they were marked out for defenestration. It could go wrong and frankly I don't care which faction wins. All new brooms quickly adopt the ways of the old brooms. In fact the tactics used by the SCABs to silence opposition and entrench their power were voted in by Labour themselves. It's the standard Labour way of using the 'Rules' to silence dissent. CAB didn't invent those tactics he just made sure he was the one who chose which rules would be (selectively) enforced.
They'll not leave quietly. A huff will be followed by rampant self pity and martyrdom on a biblical scale. I'd expect nothing less, always the same script.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on April 17, 2019, 06: PM
They'll not leave quietly. A huff will be followed by rampant self pity and martyrdom on a biblical scale. I'd expect nothing less, always the same script.
I think we will see a massive amount of looting and bending of the rules and regulations to try and protect the SCAB Cabal's income stream for as long as possible after their arses finally hit the pavement. Cranny is probably the one who will leave a trail that will eventually come back to bite him.
It'll be like Napoleons retreat from Moscow only on a more flamboyant scale and even more animated histrionics. A rearguard action.
Ray seems to have gotten most of the cream
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Dear god , pass me the thought bleach
They'll not leave quietly. A huff will be followed by rampant self pity and martyrdom on a biblical scale. I'd expect nothing less, always the same script.
Lets hope they have the sound of arrest ringing in their ears
I'm at a loss for words at the moment -
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/hartlepool-councillor-stephen-akers-belcher-suspended-by-party-over-claim-he-delivered-rival-s-election-leaflet-1-9723057
Quote from: diSme on April 19, 2019, 01: PM
I'm at a loss for words at the moment -
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/hartlepool-councillor-stephen-akers-belcher-suspended-by-party-over-claim-he-delivered-rival-s-election-leaflet-1-9723057
So, did he deny it? Maybe I've missed something.... apart from his whingeing and whining, of course! As IK has said, they won't go quietly, probably because they've got a good income stream from Healthwatch and the Rifty/ My Cafe.
Quote from: diSme on April 19, 2019, 01: PM
I'm at a loss for words at the moment -
So you should. This man has been a tireless campaigner for social justice for 22 years (since he was 12. It started during his first year in 'Special Needs' at the then Claremont. He must have been really special because he spent 4 years there!)For his pains has been picked on and bullied ever since. There was that scandalous allegation he forged his overtime sheets at one establishment and he had to leave(total fiction, would a man of such outstanding character really stoop so low as to lie and cheat?) before he got the boot. Then when Newcastle Council got wind he was just about to expose corruption at one of their homes they moved swiftly and 'framed him' by claiming he invented relative's funeral in order to qualify for a paid holiday. It was further alleged that he also claimed expenses from Hartlepool Council for the same day and was thus paid twice for the one Council Jolly. SAB was a whistle-blower and was confident he would expose Newcastle's duplicity but disaster struck again. Come the day of his appeal he confined to his bed by a crippling illness and realised he could not make it as far as Newcastle. Instead our hero gritted his teeth, ignored the debilitating pain and managed to drag himself just as far as the The Civic where he confirmed the appointment of the present Chief Executive. Even when at death's door he knew he had a duty to speak up for the people of Hartlepool. Given the choice of defending himself or speaking up for the townsfolk he chose that latter. He allowed his name to be dragged through the mud because the public good was more important.
If truth be told he deserves many more medals than the 2 (at £2000 each) he awarded himself. You are an ungrateful lot!
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on April 19, 2019, 06: PM
So, did he deny it?
No he did not deny it. He confirms he 'did it' but whines that its not a serious a charge as the complaints he has made against the people (like Tom Cook) who are now complaining about him. He has decided the best defence is 'whataboutism'.
I would not be surprised if he finds an archetypal one -legged black Lesbian asylum seeker (riding a Unicorn?)with a complaint against Anth. The merde is flying thick and fast and unfortunately both sides are telling huge porkies about the other.
Disgusted enough to return his sold gold medals ?
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"The merde is flying thick and fast and unfortunately both sides are telling huge porkies about the other"
It's at times like this you realise how big a loss the council nursery is ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Land Phil on April 19, 2019, 07: PM
Disgusted enough to return his sold gold medals ?
Let's get it straight, they ain't medals as I know them. They're badges off his chums for just being there. Despite what they allegedly cost they're utterly worthless.
The biggest joke is he got two.
After all that's come out and the clumsy contortions we're witnessing, he just doesn't get it. And never will.
I was thinking today seeing the queues outside the chip shops.
I bet less than 1% know the significance of what they were doing and equally have never been in a Church.
With the same blind ignorance they vote Labour.
Quote from: Land Phil on April 19, 2019, 11: PM
I was thinking today seeing the queues outside the chip shops.
I bet less than 1% know the significance of what they were doing and equally have never been in a Church.
With the same blind ignorance they vote Labour.
That's a great analogy of politics in Hartlepool. I've always been bemused by them stood in massive queues to buy something they can buy every other day with much less hassle because they've always done it and it's traditional.
There's a Funfair on the Catty Road field a few shows and car boot stalls a burger van etc......I live round the corner and noticed when I passed that Barclay and his pet leaflet delivery assistant were in attendance........ Talk about clutching at straws.
Quote from: fred c on April 20, 2019, 01: PM
There's a Funfair on the Catty Road field a few shows and car boot stalls a burger van etc......I live round the corner and noticed when I passed that Barclay and his pet leaflet delivery assistant were in attendance........ Talk about clutching at straws.
my Cafe
19 hrs ·
Looking for something to do this Saturday.
Join Hartlepool Mayor Allan Barclay in celebrating St George's day (a few days early) and help raise some funds for armed forces charities and good causes.
This Saturday a family funday will be held on the field between Catcote Road and Marlowe / Swinburne Road. 10:00am / 3:00pm
Tombola
Face painting
Psychic readings
Egg craft painting
Rides
Snakes, spiders and owls
Kites (weather permitting)
This is supported by my cafe and rifty volunteers in an effort to support our hard working Mayor Allan Barclay
Car boot sellers can turn up between 8am and 9:30am to set up
https://www.facebook.com/mycafeHartlepool/
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157360338854595&set=gm.1998234263805875&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Psychic readings? Seeing what's foretold for the May elections? ::)
Bit like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUV00NSQT9E&list=RDMUV00NSQT9E&start_radio=1&t=23
I'm curious to know which candidates have actually bothered to post literature and speak to local people in the various wards....
I know that in my ward (fens/rossmere), the only literature I have received was from Peter Joyce, and he was knocking on doors by himself and speaking to people directly. This kind of effort goes a long way towards convincing me how much conviction a candidate has, and in that vein of thought, I think it would be beneficial for people to share what's occurring in their own wards.
Basically,, who is serious, and who is not....
Quote from: jawsbbc on April 20, 2019, 01: PM
Join Hartlepool Mayor Allan Barclay in celebrating St George's day (a few days early) and help raise some funds for armed forces charities and good causes
Can they specify just what the 'good causes' are exactly?
Some definition would help.
Also, did they have permission to use the field for this purpose and were residents consulted beforehand?
Can any individual or group now use it for similar purposes, as a precedence has now been set?
Any idea how many Labour Councillors attended this event for a rival competing Party member?
Quote from: fred c on April 20, 2019, 01: PM
There's a Funfair on the Catty Road field a few shows and car boot stalls a burger van etc......I live round the corner and noticed when I passed that Barclay and his pet leaflet delivery assistant were in attendance........ Talk about clutching at straws.
I passed the field again around 2pm.......Barclay was obviously practicing for his new job..... A black bag and a picky up stick was evident, it looked as though he has done it before.
Quote from: fred c on April 20, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on April 20, 2019, 01: PM
There's a Funfair on the Catty Road field a few shows and car boot stalls a burger van etc......I live round the corner and noticed when I passed that Barclay and his pet leaflet delivery assistant were in attendance........ Talk about clutching at straws.
I passed the field again around 2pm.......Barclay was obviously practicing for his new job..... A black bag and a picky up stick was evident, it looked as though he has done it before.
It's a clever trick were he pretends to clean rubbish, so he can check discarded beer cans for dregs.
Quote from: fred c on April 20, 2019, 01: PM
There's a Funfair on the Catty Road field a few shows and car boot stalls a burger van etc......I live round the corner and noticed when I passed that Barclay and his pet leaflet delivery assistant were in attendance........ Talk about clutching at straws.
Should Labour Councillors be attending an event for a 'poitician' (I use the word in it's very loosest sense) who is standing against the Labour Party candidate for a rival Party in upcoming elections?
I note the local Labour Group has lifted Steve's original report (CAB saying Brash and Hargreaves should seek re-election after leaving the Labour Party)and is using his own words to attack Hartlepool's First Couple. You would think they would at least mention who did the heavy lifting for them.
I thought they never read these pages so how did they get the lead?