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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: mr ben on February 20, 2019, 09: PM

Title: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: mr ben on February 20, 2019, 09: PM
Just when you think it cant get any worse!!   a fresh batch of unemployable morons  rising from the sh1t pile .. 
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on February 20, 2019, 10: PM
A form of (un) natural selection?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Johnny Bongo on February 20, 2019, 11: PM
Please, do tell!  I'm not psychic......yeh, psychotic, maybe ???....but still need a clue! :)
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Land Phil on February 20, 2019, 11: PM
Just goes to show Hartlepool isn't tropical cruises for all.

The program showed Hartlepool in a bad light and our politicians deserve the negativity
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: fred c on February 21, 2019, 05: AM
I wonder if the Dear Leader will be "Livid" about this episode......
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 21, 2019, 08: AM
What makes me livid about this series, is rather than than talk to people with problems in their everyday life, the producers of these programmes gravitate towards a percentage of attention seeking pantomime 'characters' that end up with the TV  audience ridiculing the very problem the programme is supposed to be highlighting.
The programme is actually making the situation worse as these sensationalised scenarios feature unsympathetic characters who blight the programme. The viewing public see it and the clowns antics overshadow the genuine cases in their memory and diminish their concerns.
Much more could be achieved by taking a more measured approach, but that doesn't achieve the ratings, whereas these portrayals do.
Just as bad is the stigmatising of the town in these absurd Hogarthian scenarios that portray the town as a cross between a post apocalyptic wasteland inhabited by the Chuckle Brothers on spice and a Monty Python sketch that went wrong.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on February 21, 2019, 09: AM
I saw the first new "joke" about Hartlepool since the monkey yesterday.
Shamima Begum has been offered a house in Hartlepool but has decided to stay in Syria.
That was a comment on a national site not a local one.

Considering Hartlepool's first couple are on a cruise and Mike Hill spent thousands refurbishing his rented offices at our expense, I don't think wearing a tracky over a suit makes a difference.

The scallys are just a distraction from the bigger problems.


Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 21, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on February 21, 2019, 09: AM


Considering Hartlepool's first couple are on a cruise.


I wondered why I hadn't seen the Dredger recently. Mind it's got a big load on.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: DRiddle on February 21, 2019, 11: AM
I watched a bloke robbing drug dealers with a Stanley knife, lads shoplifting Minstrels and a bloke lighting fires in a back alleyway, then when Kevin Cranney popped up in the background i thought to myself, "He looks a dodgy b@$tard" . . .
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: diSme on February 21, 2019, 04: PM
The guy who was supposedly robbing local drug dealers was doing no such thing.... As Inspector Knacker pointed out, this was pure pantomime.

He actually went out to 'score' drugs for himself and his missus. This is quite plain to see.

The consequences, (people looking for him) were as a result of drug debts, not as a result of him 'taxing' drug dealers.

Again,, pure pantomime, and not a fair representation of the true situation.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: mr ben on February 21, 2019, 09: PM
Had a drive around the places that where on tv last night  !! its like a scene out of max max  .Sh1te  walking around off their heads with drugs and drink .. houses boarded up  windows smashed  . its not the town of 20 years ago and never will be until them houses and streets  are bull dozed and the scutters are forced to move out .... its sh**e the brings a place down to its knees and the sh**e has won ..... well done the council / social  services/ drug rehab centres !!! you have failed  !!!!!   
The decent  people  of the town are picking the bill up to keep the sh**e breeding and taking the p**s out of ever service we provide .. WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP ?
i am really find it hard to pay my council tax to fund this ..
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on February 21, 2019, 09: PM
Quote from: mr ben on February 21, 2019, 09: PM
Had a drive around the places that where on tv last night  !! its like a scene out of max max  .Sh1te  walking around off their heads with drugs and drink .. houses boarded up  windows smashed  . its not the town of 20 years ago and never will be until them houses and streets  are bull dozed and the scutters are forced to move out .... its sh**e the brings a place down to its knees and the sh**e has won ..... well done the council / social  services/ drug rehab centres !!! you have failed  !!!!!   
The decent  people  of the town are picking the bill up to keep the sh**e breeding and taking the p**s out of ever service we provide .. WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP ?
i am really find it hard to pay my council tax to fund this ..

Had a drive round? Did you have outriders?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Owen Jones on February 21, 2019, 10: PM
Someone said move these scutters out but where would you put them?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on February 21, 2019, 11: PM
Quote from: Owen Jones on February 21, 2019, 10: PM
Someone said move these scutters out but where would you put them?

'Scutters'? May have missed a quote but such a description is not exactly polite. Where do you suggest that such unfortunates should be placed?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: mk1 on February 21, 2019, 11: PM
Quote from: Owen Jones on February 21, 2019, 10: PM
Someone said move these scutters out but where would you put them?

I think they should set aside a  certain number of houses in each Ward for these people instead dumping them all in the town centre area. The pain should be spread about instead of all being rammed into 2 wards.  I realise that all those unaffected by the problems will be outraged by the suggestion and  prefer the status quo.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 22, 2019, 07: AM
The problem is private landlords.Some are good and some are as reckless as their tenants.
Had cause to drive round the street houses in lower Oxford Road and found most had one house boarded up. Devon Street was like a war zone.
The council spent a fortune trying to sort out Baden Street, but these people just move on to relocate their 'lifestyle'.
Trying to organise these people into set locations in set numbers is like trying to herd cats. Once they move in, the other tenants try and get out.  Taking over a Street or number of streets serves their purpose.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: mr ben on February 22, 2019, 08: AM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on February 21, 2019, 11: PM
Quote from: Owen Jones on February 21, 2019, 10: PM
Someone said move these scutters out but where would you put them?

'Scutters'? May have missed a quote but such a description is not exactly polite. Where do you suggest that such unfortunates should be placed?
i  suggest we move then next door to you .. And we will see how polite you will be  ?.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: The Great Dictator on February 22, 2019, 09: AM



   The decay is a result of RIGHT TO BUY, 40 years ago the sh**e of society were dumped in West View, Owton Manor and Seaton Lane.

   Now that these estates and other council estates are mainly private the government have allowed private landlords to take the reins.

   Decent private estates are being infected along with the house prices and council policy remains resolute as it was when i was there 20 years ago.

   I objected at the time about placing a criminal family in a good street, i said it was a bad idea, they said it wasn't and i was right.

   Look around the world, every town and city has a GHETTO, i live in one but its a nice ghetto, not all of them are unfortunately.

   When i was a Councillor i calculated that over 60% of Labour councillors had exercised RIGHT TO BUY, i think that speaks volumes don't you.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Owen Jones on February 22, 2019, 09: AM
The word scutters came from Mr Ben not me and I already live next door to them.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 22, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: The Great Dictator on February 22, 2019, 09: AM

   When i was a Councillor i calculated that over 60% of Labour councillors had exercised RIGHT TO BUY, i think that speaks volumes don't you.
No surprises there then. A case of do as I say, not as I do. Some have principles, and if you don't like them,  they have optional principles.
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Disgruntled voter on February 22, 2019, 01: PM
The slum land lords are accountable for the poor situation around oxford road . They buy a cheap house for nothing and rent it out to DSS claimants for a few pennies . The real residents start moving out and the slum landlords buy up more property which gets rented to more zombie drug taking oxygen thieves. And the cycle continues . Other areas of the town are also deprived but they don't have the same issue with the walking dead cast pacing up the road looking for drugs, smashing windows and fighting . For some reason the oxford road area is a mecca for drug addicts and head-the-balls . We need to break the cycle and take control of the slum landlord situation .
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 22, 2019, 02: PM
What I find puzzling about the slum landlords, is surely any profit must be minimal when you see the state of the properties that must need constant repairs.
I suspect the only solution for that area will be full or partial demolition of the area.
Sadly, another area will then be written off. The drawback being just how do you sort out the real cause of the problem, the 'tenants'?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: mk1 on February 22, 2019, 07: PM
It appears claimants were asked by Job Centre Staff if they were willing to take part in this show. A good number of people were interviewed and sounded-out  but it appears they had a  very specific 'type' they wanted to feature. I wonder if the Job Centre got a commission for helping find participants?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 22, 2019, 08: PM
Since when did they become central casting?
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: fred c on February 23, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: mk1 on February 22, 2019, 07: PM
It appears claimants were asked by Job Centre Staff if they were willing to take part in this show. A good number of people were interviewed and sounded-out  but it appears they had a  very specific 'type' they wanted to feature. I wonder if the Job Centre got a commission for helping find participants?

If this is correct (mk1) usually is, this presents an opportunity for the Dynamic Duo aka Ms Alexander and Livid Cwissy to seek a meeting with the manager of the Job Centre to put there visionary concepts forward to him and seek his cooperation.

Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: jeffh on February 23, 2019, 09: AM
Quote from: fred c on February 23, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: mk1 on February 22, 2019, 07: PM
It appears claimants were asked by Job Centre Staff if they were willing to take part in this show. A good number of people were interviewed and sounded-out  but it appears they had a  very specific 'type' they wanted to feature. I wonder if the Job Centre got a commission for helping find participants?

If this is correct (mk1) usually is, this presents an opportunity for the Dynamic Duo aka Ms Alexander and Livid Cwissy to seek a meeting with the manager of the Job Centre to put there visionary concepts forward to him and seek his cooperation.
Hope the Job Centre Manager has plenty of paper and crayons
Title: Re: Hartlepools finest chapter 2
Post by: Inspector Knacker on February 23, 2019, 11: AM
They'll only need tracing paper, they only re-do other people's old projects.