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Title: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: fred c on June 06, 2018, 01: PM
https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/news/article/1250/audit_of_accounts_year_ended_31st_march_2018

A couple of figures that may surprise people...

CEO salary.....................£146,609
Pension Contributions..£22,276
Total...............................£168,885

Borough Solicitor salary.....................£93,663
Pension Contributions........................£88359
Compensation for Loss of office.......£63,451
Total.....................................................£245,473

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: jeffh on June 06, 2018, 04: PM
Quote from: fred c on June 06, 2018, 01: PM
https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/news/article/1250/audit_of_accounts_year_ended_31st_march_2018

A couple of figures that may surprise people...

CEO salary.....................£146,609
Pension Contributions..£22,276
Total...............................£168,885

Borough Solicitor salary.....................£93,663
Pension Contributions........................£88359
Compensation for Loss of office.......£63,451
Total.....................................................£245,473
That would suggest he was pushed - do the tentacles of the special one reach that far?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 06, 2018, 05: PM
Well it can't be redundancy unless they're doing away with the post, which ain't gonna happen, although in their world anything is possible I suppose.
I've always assumed in my working life you either leave to go to a better job, get made redundant or dismissed from your post.
Compensation?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on June 06, 2018, 06: PM
I always thought of him being too compliant to get rid of.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: jawsbbc on June 06, 2018, 08: PM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on June 06, 2018, 06: PM
I always thought of him being too compliant to get rid of.
better he left with a gagging order as most of  them do
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Johnny Bongo on June 06, 2018, 11: PM
Quote from: jawsbbc on June 06, 2018, 08: PM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on June 06, 2018, 06: PM
I always thought of him being too compliant to get rid of.
better he left with a gagging order as most of  them do

I believe the phrase here is ''hush money''.  I'm sure he knows lots of dirty little secrets regarding the Scabal...and many big ones also, but he won't be singing like a canary any time soon! He'll be too busy enjoying himself spending that wedge of cash!
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 07, 2018, 05: AM
'Compensation for loss of office' is what exactly? It sounds like a simple throw away footnote n the  balance sheet, but the more I see it the more I need to know what it means.
I've been a shop steward and been a manager, but never in all my time came across this phrase anymore.
Will we ever know.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: fred c on June 07, 2018, 08: AM
A number of officers have left HBC over the last few of years and tbh, having to deal with some of the usual suspects is it any wonder, I suspect most of them take the view of 'thank **** i'm out of there'.....
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: jeffh on June 07, 2018, 09: AM
Doesn't the pension figure of £88,359 seem excessive?  I would have thought previous years pensions would have already been through the books and already declared.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: crisstw on June 07, 2018, 01: PM
Loss of office would usually mean redundancy. I bet the pension contributions are for the same reason but they seem very excessive. Perhaps to buy his silence?

With it being described as loss of office, does that mean we require no solicitor nowadays?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on June 07, 2018, 02: PM
Quote from: crisstw on June 07, 2018, 01: PM
Loss of office would usually mean redundancy. I bet the pension contributions are for the same reason but they seem very excessive. Perhaps to buy his silence?

With it being described as loss of office, does that mean we require no solicitor nowadays?

Redundancy is loss of a position not an individual.
Loss of an individual is usually dismissal.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Truthache on June 07, 2018, 05: PM
The £88000 would equate to almost 4 years of Employer's pension contributions.  This may be payable in the case of redundancy when the employee reaches a certain age (close to earliest retirement date).  The loss of employment late in a career would impact on the final salary pension and these payments will be to protect that pension entitlement.  Employer's contributions continue even though the employee has gone.
It is hard to imagine the post of Borough Solicitor being redundant.  I assume his work still needs to be done, so what is the reason behind his departure.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: brassed off monkey on June 07, 2018, 05: PM
It obviously wasn't a redundancy a Borough Solicitors position is one of the must haves, for there to have been a compensation payment suggests it was a parting the ways, whether amicable or otherwise

There were whispers flying around for a while of a serious difference of opinion and the next salute the borough solicitors had moved on.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 07, 2018, 10: PM
You never know, they might share a solicitor with another authority.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Heknocks68 on June 07, 2018, 10: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on June 07, 2018, 10: PM
You never know, they might share a solicitor with another authority.
Ohh tut tut, why do you prolong this nonsense, do you refer to the Tees Valley Combined Authority Solicitor, all in good ( not so sure) time, breath deep exhale with clarity, err,hemm.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 08, 2018, 06: AM
Every thing else seems to be getting shipped out, so why not. Tees Valley? No. But give it time.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Council Accounts
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on June 09, 2018, 08: PM
http://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/person/117256/peter-john-devlin (http://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/person/117256/peter-john-devlin)


Landed on his feet following his golden parachute by the looks of it.
Just like the jobs for the boys situation with little Iain.

Words like 'lodge' and 'special handshake' come to mind.