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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM

Title: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/17293607.life-expectancy-in-hartlepool-falls/

I haven't seen anything from heathwatch on this. Someone will probably make a powerpoint.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Johnny Bongo on December 13, 2018, 12: PM
So, what can we blame this on...as there's always someone wanting to blame someone / something else, mainly for political point scoring.  The Tory Government?  Austerity?  Takeaways / unhealthy lifestyles?  The list is endless, depending on different points of view.  What will be our MP's view?  Will HBC invent  another project to reverse the fall?
Having just walked through Stranton cemetery, one thing's for certain......and we all know what that is!
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 13, 2018, 12: PM
Once upon a time industrial disease and injuries could have skewed the statistics, but since there's not a lot of this left in Hartlepool (particularly true as regards heavy industry) then wonder just what's behind this now? Is it people's lifestyle choices, is it a shortage of medical facilities .... or is it just a lack of hope?
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Topcat on December 13, 2018, 12: PM
There are lies then there are damned lies and then there are statistics.Statistics can be blamed or hailed for anything you want them to be depending on how you manipulate them,that is why I never set much faith in them.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: The Great Dictator on December 13, 2018, 01: PM



   Is it because so many live on Pizza, chips, drink too much, smoke too much, don't exercise and do drugs ????

   Just an observation.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: jawsbbc on December 13, 2018, 02: PM
Quote from: The Great Dictator on December 13, 2018, 01: PM



   Is it because so many live on Pizza, chips, drink too much, smoke too much, don't exercise and do drugs ????

   Just an observation.
could be, i remember cranney on the news and  in the papers on about obesity life spans ect ect a couple of years ago its our labour council that passes all the planning for the pizza fast food shops is it not  ;)
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Land Phil on December 13, 2018, 02: PM
Maybe people are over exerting themselves at all the new healthy exercise places ?
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Gustaf I of England + BWH on December 13, 2018, 02: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/17293607.life-expectancy-in-hartlepool-falls/

I haven't seen anything from heathwatch on this. Someone will probably make a powerpoint.

'Heathwatch' - isn't that one of those wildlife programs of the tele. ?

In answer to Johnny Bongo, it has to 'government cuts' surely. Everything else is.

Or there again, it could be part of a cunning plan. Think about it. Pension age is going relentlessly up, life expectancy is coming down. Sooner or later the two are going to meet in the middle, ergo - no more pension crisis - job sorted, next problem please.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: diSme on December 13, 2018, 04: PM
Quote from: Topcat on December 13, 2018, 12: PM
There are lies then there are damned lies and then there are statistics.Statistics can be blamed or hailed for anything you want them to be depending on how you manipulate them,that is why I never set much faith in them.

I absolutely agree with this...

Statistics are just a tool of manipulation
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: kevplumb on December 13, 2018, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 13, 2018, 12: PM
Once upon a time industrial disease and injuries could have skewed the statistics, but since there's not a lot of this left in Hartlepool (particularly true as regards heavy industry) then wonder just what's behind this now? Is it people's lifestyle choices, is it a shortage of medical facilities .... or is it just a lack of hope?
there are still plenty of us about with industrial disease as a result of heavy industrywe just haven't fell off our perches yet  ;)
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 14, 2018, 07: AM
Legacy problems such as industrial illness are a long term problem which will eventually decrease with the disappearance of heavy industry. Smoking and drink plus the advent of fast food and the increase in substance abuse will cause a rise in mortality. As a town we are inundated with fast food outlets and the number of school kids and students who seem to survive on a lunchtime diet of pizzas is worrying.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Land Phil on December 14, 2018, 07: AM
Talking of statistics, footage from outside the civic centre was used to highlight the North East story on Look North informing us of sky high referrals to hospital for obesity related problems in our area.

Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: mr ben on December 14, 2018, 06: PM
smoking crack cocaine  and doing  heroin  is at epidemic proportion in this town ... death rates have gone up because of it ...   
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 15, 2018, 08: AM
There's plenty of haggard, shuffling, gaunt, staring eyed figures to support that line of thought.
And they want to legalise drugs?
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 15, 2018, 12: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 15, 2018, 08: AM
There's plenty of haggard, shuffling, gaunt, staring eyed figures ...

Oh, you must have been to a council meeting, then?  ::)


Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 15, 2018, 03: PM
Tut, tut. They've more than their share of 'rotund' or even ' circumferencially challend' members to challenge that comparison. Or as we can call them, 'Lardy  tubsters' living off the fat of the land.
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Disgruntled voter on December 16, 2018, 09: AM
A few members of the labour party will end up as part of these statistics; because of alcohol abuse,gluttony and inject toxins into their faces .
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 16, 2018, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM


I haven't seen anything from heathwatch on this. Someone will probably make a powerpoint.
What exactly is Healthwatch watching?
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Land Phil on December 16, 2018, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 16, 2018, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM


I haven't seen anything from heathwatch on this. Someone will probably make a powerpoint.
What exactly is Healthwatch watching?

Drinking champagne and eating Rifty burgers ?
Title: Re: Male life expectancy fall in Hartlepool biggest in UK
Post by: Johnny Bongo on December 16, 2018, 09: PM
Quote from: Land Phil on December 16, 2018, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 16, 2018, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 13, 2018, 11: AM


I haven't seen anything from heathwatch on this. Someone will probably make a powerpoint.
What exactly is Healthwatch watching?

Drinking champagne and eating Rifty burgers ?


They're watching the SCABs bank account mounting up....and thinking of changing the name to Wealthwatch!