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Hartlepudlion

Why little Englanders?

Why should England not have its own Parliament? The other three countries in the UK have their own NATIONAL representation. The largest country by far has not.

You are wrong about the Clyde bases. SNP Policy is to close down Faslane aka HMNB Clyde and associated establishments.

If Scotland gains independence the benefits to the UK would include:

The abolition of the Barnett Formula
The transfer of the Clyde and Forth naval bases to the new UK, England, Wales and NI.
The building of ships for the RN would return warship ship building to the new UK.
Charge them for their defence.
We would get rid of the whinging Scots.


akarjl2

Quote from: mk1 on December 13, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 13, 2019, 09: AM


Hopefully ditch the minority group fantasising north of the border in Braveheart Land....


Nicola is rubbing her hands thinking of the money she will charge (current estimate is £1 billion+ a year)for allowing The RN to keep the Clyde Bases. Its common knowledge this is the SNP Trump Card which they will play if any attempt is made to punish them for leaving the UK.  It is either pay off the Scots or upset the millions little englanders who will end up living close beside the stored nuclear warheads.

Maybe she needs to re think that one......https://www.gov.uk/government/news/scottish-income-tax-shortfall-offset-by-uk-funding

Base them at seal sands what's the difference he have a bloody nuclear power station  ;)
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

akarjl2

Quote from: Hartlepudlion on December 13, 2019, 11: AM
Why little Englanders?

Why should England not have its own Parliament? The other three countries in the UK have their own NATIONAL representation. The largest country by far has not.

You are wrong about the Clyde bases. SNP Policy is to close down Faslane aka HMNB Clyde and associated establishments.

If Scotland gains independence the benefits to the UK would include:

The abolition of the Barnett Formula
The transfer of the Clyde and Forth naval bases to the new UK, England, Wales and NI.
The building of ships for the RN would return warship ship building to the new UK.
Charge them for their defence.
We would get rid of the whinging Scots.

Post of the day........Post of the day........Post of the day........Post of the day........Post of the day........
Having single handedly seen off Nigel / Brexit Party

....and had a few digs at The Trumpinator

Mk 00000.1 has now turned his attention to .......his pet hate.....

England

Easy fix

Brexit......drag Scotland screaming and kicking out of EU.....Get rid of Scotland......Mk 00000.1 move to Europe/Scotland/N Ireland......win /win for the town ;)
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

Hubris

Quote from: mk1 on December 13, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 13, 2019, 09: AM


Hopefully ditch the minority group fantasising north of the border in Braveheart Land....


Nicola is rubbing her hands thinking of the money she will charge (current estimate is £1 billion+ a year)for allowing The RN to keep the Clyde Bases. Its common knowledge this is the SNP Trump Card
Some trump card! Given that ENGLISH taxpayers subsidise the Jocks to approx £9 billion a year (and rising) I reckon the £8b positive just might warrant being a fairly strong hand in any face to face game of bluff. Don't you think Wee Bernie just might blink first? Or hasn't your naive grasp of basic economic reality let you smell the coffee yet?

Hubris

Quote from: mk1 on December 13, 2019, 09: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 13, 2019, 09: AM

Hopefully ditch the minority group fantasising north of the border in Braveheart Land....

While we are on a roll get rid of Northern Ireland too.....
Nothing new here. The polls showed the Little Englanders thought this a price worth paying.
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Greetings from a little englander stuck over here today in Switzerland (you know, our loyal sister country that we are very soon to join in the healthy "Staying out of the EUSSR and proud of it" club)
Been talking to many people today and they are all pretty much positive about the UK at last having a strong majority government. One that will be able to function and not be dragged down in a race to the bottom by a spineless gaggle of remoaners, jealous snipers and pound shop Marxists.
But the most shocking thing I learned today is......now brace yourselves for this one......NO ONE had ever heard of mki!!
I know it's quite hard to believe but it's true.  (AND....one or two of them had never heard of Greatham either)

mk1

Quote from: Hubris on December 13, 2019, 02: PM

Greetings from a little englander stuck over here today in Switzerland (you know, our loyal sister country that we are very soon to join in the healthy "Staying out of the EUSSR and proud of it" club)


Switzerland is a EU Member in all but name. The Wiki page shows how they are bound to the EU but have little if say at all in the making of the rules they must obey. The EU Deal has a clause that means the Swiss take all the conditions or none. It is take it or leave it'

From the perspective of the EU, the treaties contain largely the same content as the EEA treaties, making Switzerland a virtual member of the EEA. Most EU law applies universally throughout the EU, the EEA and Switzerland, providing most of the conditions of the free movement of people, goods, services and capital that apply to the member states. Switzerland pays into the EU budget. Switzerland has extended the bilateral treaties to new EU member states; each extension required the approval of Swiss voters in a referendum.

In a referendum on 5 June 2005, Swiss voters agreed, by a 55% majority, to join the Schengen Area. This came into effect on 12 December 2008.

In 2009, the Swiss voted to extend the free movement of people to Bulgaria and Romania by 59.6% in favour to 40.4% against. While the EU Directive 2004/38/EC on the right to move and reside freely does not directly apply to Switzerland, the Swiss-EU bilateral agreement on the free movement of people contains the same rights both for Swiss and EEA nationals, and their family members.

By 2010, Switzerland had amassed around 210 trade treaties with the EU. Following the institutional changes in the EU–particularly regarding foreign policy and the increased role of the European Parliament–European Council President Herman Van Rompuy and Swiss President Doris Leuthard expressed a desire to "reset" EU-Swiss relations with an easier and cleaner way of applying EU law in Switzerland. In December 2012, the Council of the European Union declared that there will be no further treaties on single market issues unless Switzerland and EU agree on a new legal framework similar to the EEA that, among others, would bind Switzerland more closely to the evolving EU legislation. José Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission, later affirmed this position. However, a second referendum on Swiss EEA membership isn't expected,[3] and the Swiss public remains opposed to joining.

Schengen Agreement
Main article: Schengen Agreement
In 2009, Switzerland became a participant in the Schengen Area with the acceptance of an association agreement by popular referendum in 2005. This means that there are no passport controls on Switzerland's borders with its neighbours though customs controls continue to apply.

2014 referendum
Main article: Swiss immigration referendum, February 2014
In a referendum in February 2014, the Swiss voters narrowly approved a proposal to limit the freedom of movement of foreign citizens to Switzerland. The European Commission said it would have to examine the implications of the result on EU–Swiss relations since literal implementation would invoke the guillotine clause.

On 22 December 2016, Switzerland and the EU concluded an agreement whereby a new Swiss law (in response to the referendum) would require Swiss employers to take on any job seekers (whether Swiss nationals or non-Swiss citizens registered in Swiss job agencies) whilst continuing to observe the free movement of EU citizens into Switzerland thus allowing them to work there.



The Swiss  can  in theory reject any new laws but they tried that in 2012 for 'Foreigners' and thus had to scrabble about making new Swiss Laws that allowed them to say they were restricting access to EU nationals whilst at the same time not restricting access to EU Nationals.

I think you picked a bad example.





Inspector Knacker

You're like one of those Japanese soldiers forgotten about on a desert island at the end of the war, who's still fanatically fighting on, but there's no one there to fight, just coconuts. You lost, the wars over.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Hubris on December 13, 2019, 01: PM

Some trump card!

It is indeed. Given the little englanders see themselves as a world super-power the ability to trattle the nuclear sabre is an important crutch for them.  Take away their Security Council seat and they would have to face reality They will pay any price to keep up the illusion they are important. The US already has a veto on the UK use of its missiles anyway so the UK never had any real freedom of choice as to when they are used. Unlike the French (read The EU)who really are an Independent Nuclear Power.

akarjl2

#38

1. little englanders = click bait. = ignore.
2. Standby for "bong eyed loony" = click bait. = ignore.
3. Anything by MK .0000001 = click bait. = ignore.
4. Don't feed the troll.
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

mk1

Quote from: Hartlepudlion on December 13, 2019, 11: AM


If Scotland gains independence the benefits to the UK would include............

The instant promotion of the rump UK to the top of the list of the most densely populated countries in the world?
A spur to the ar*se of the racist pig-wielding thugs to start them selecting those who will have to leave to make more room for decent white folks?





Inspector Knacker

Pssst ...is he still going on?.........
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: mk1 on December 13, 2019, 10: AM
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All the Farage fart-catchers are now busy pretending they don't care but they do, they really do................


As I predicted Facebook full of people  posting insane stuff about Labour and Hill whilst ignoring the fact their horse came third. It is as if the weeks of constant promoting of Tice and The Brexit Party and the shouting down of all who dared to dissent never happened. The badly-mauled fruitcakes leap on the Boris bandwagon and continue to rage at anything and everything remotely 'Labour'.
They are too dumb to realise it was they who shot themselves in the foot and it was their unshakeable belief in victory that actually handed the seat to Hill.
In practical terms does this mean Shane will re-name his band of Merry Men before May-perhaps to The Conservative And Unionist Party?

Inspector Knacker

#42
Hill got elected because of a split vote or he'd have been toast. If he'd stood unopposed he'd have come second, he's that poor.
You're celebrating your battle, but the war was lost and you don't seem to have noticed yet.
Strategy trumps tactics so Hill and Tice, are all now irrelevant. Mr Useless will stumble around town in his crumpled suit and Tice like ALL failed candidates will slip quietly away. I can recall no failed candidate hanging around Hartlepool for the rest of their lives. It doesn't happen.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 16, 2019, 07: PM
Hill got elected because of a split vote or he'd have been toast.
Did not Farage say his aim was to 'split the vote'?  It is just he was too dumb to understand which way it would split.
Hill won. That is a fact. There were more Labour voters than Tory voters.
Even when riding a tsunami The Brexit Party sank without trace.

akarjl2

Who cares about Brexit party?= history.

Or Hill= waste of oxygen.

Boris "won" = bye bye Republic of Europe.

Next mission get rid of jocks and ni.
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....