More monkey business going on in Hartlepool.
My latest blog article.
http://namedblamedandshamed.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/is-big-gravy-jumping-on-gravy-train.html?m=1
There is much more I can say about this plan to make the town a laughing stock. I'm currently researching info for a follow up blog. It's sensational. Most people in town will be shocked to the core.
If anyone can help with my research they can contact me in strict confidence on westwinds@btinternet.com.
Alternatively you can message me on here
If you'd rather talk with complete confidentiality then message me and I'll give you my mobile number.
Thank you.
Harry, why do you insist on going on about this? There simply IS no plot.
That's an interesting response DRiddle.
If, as you say, there is no plot then why did you lie to me when I asked you about Derek Bilton?
Why did councillor Geoff Lilley, when I called him, profess to know nothing about Bilton? Did you engineer the Bilton thing without Geoff's knowledge or did Geoff know?
Why are you avoiding answering questions from people on the PHF Facebook page from people asking about YOUR agenda?
Why are you not answering questions you've been asked about Bilton on the same FB page?
Why are you selectively deleting comments on that same FB page? I don't mean the racist, homophobic and sexist ones. I've got screen grabs of those by the way?
I'm nothing but thorough. I also record ALL of my phone calls for ease of writing stuff up later and in case people 'change their mind. I'm nothing but thorough. I learnt many years ago that politicians (All of them) lie all of the time.
I have lots more questions I'll be asking.
I'm sure you'd be delighted if I stopped asking questions and went away. It's not going to happen.
Regards
Harry
You can ask me whatever you want harry.
But will you reply honestly?
I caught you lying once. I'd be upset if it happened again
I am getting a number of tips via my blog, on FB and elsewhere that PHF chairman David Riddle has resigned.
Anyone confirm or deny?
Many thanks
Harry
If its true well done you f***i*g k**b head,must like being in bed with the scabs do you,thought you were a breath of fresh air when you first came on but the the scars of mandy are worse than i thought k**b.
Oh dear. That's not nice. Not sure why you'd blame me. But carry on being abusive behind your anonymity.
Quote from: stokoe on March 19, 2014, 12: PM
If its true well done you f***i*g k**b head,must like being in bed with the scabs do you,thought you were a breath of fresh air when you first came on but the the scars of mandy are worse than i thought k**b.
I am afraid you fell for the 'man of the people' act. Mr Blackwood is simply concerned with promoting Mr Blackwood. 90% of his first days contribution here was deleted because it consisted of insults and threats against anyone not falling at his feet in admiration and those he believed had crossed him in the past. A Named individuals was warned Harry had 'dirt' on him and he offered to share it with all and sundry. I believe the same individual had made a succes ful complaint against Blackwood whilst he was still editor of The Mail.
This tirade of venom and bile was all deleted the next morning.
Blackwood has a very short fuse, a monstrous ego and an implacable life-long hatred for all those who dare to disagree with him. Mean, petty minded and vindictive. I suspect his loathing of Madelson is because they are twins seperated at birth.
That will put me firmly in the firing line....................
Perhaps Mr Blackwood will publish the 25 reasons given by Gary Fearon for sacking him. I understand 12 were 'related' to Mandelson but what were the other 13 about?
Riddle has not resigned. Bit of mischief making here methinks.
Happy to confirm two things.
1. I have just been told by Geoff Lilley that Riddle has not resigned.
2. I can also confirm that MK1 is a bloke called Steve Close.
Not the Stephen Close who humiliatingly came last when Drummond was elected?
George, the very same. The one who used to write fraudulent letters to the Mail using the names and addresses of other people. Including his own daughter. She knew nothing about it until she was informed by the Mail. Note to mods I have complete evidence if required.
I have been reliably informed that the Joe Hudson Blog is actually written by David Riddle. As David Riddle is heavily involved with a political group in the town and the Joe Hudson Blog is very critical about certain councillors, I'd suggest that this is sneaky and deceitful at the very least.
I could be wrong.
To ensure complete honesty and openness, my blog is indeed written by me using my own name.
Thanks
"I'm nothing but thorough"
1. I have just been told by Geoff Lilley that Riddle has not resigned.
2. I can also confirm that MK1 is a bloke called Steve Close.
That's two out of two you've got wrong so far. You don't seem to be having a good day, Harry.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 02: PM
Happy to confirm two things.
1. I have just been told by Geoff Lilley that Riddle has not resigned.
2. I can also confirm that MK1 is a bloke called Steve Close.
Now we can see why you were sacked. You make things up rather than use facts.
Now I repeat, can you list the 12 non Mandelson related reasons you were sacked from the Mail?
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 02: PM
To ensure complete honesty and openness, my blog is indeed written by me using my own name.
So its just the 'facts' you make up not your name?
Quote from: George on March 19, 2014, 02: PM
Not the Stephen Close who humiliatingly came last when Drummond was elected?
I believe it is also S Close who had his complaints against the then Mail Editor ( a H Blackwood) upheld.
Once you complain about Harry you never get off his sh*it list.........................
Note to Harry:
If you feel the 12 non Mandelson related reasons you were sacked from the Mail reflect badly upon you then please continue to ignore all requests to reveal them.
No. Incorrect. Mr Close's complaints were not upheld. The independent investigator Keith Midgley rejected them ;-)
No Mr Close. I'm a stickler for accuracy.
And your point was?
Typical of Blackwoods publicity machine, all lies and bluster.
Scum like you should be thrown off this site for abusing SRMoore, MK1, Riddle and others.
It is evident from this why you were sacked and are unemployable.
I was in a Dementia care home last week visiting a relative, Steve Close was there
presenting a Karaoke machine to the residents courtesy of the History of Hartlepool charity.
Why the admin on this site tolerate this i'll never know :(
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
No Mr Close.
For the record
I am not, nor have ever been a member of the communist Par...... -opps sorry I mean I am not S Close.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
And your point was?
That you are pretty selective with your replies.
Why do you continue to ignore my question about the 12 non Mandelson related reasons you were sacked from the Mail? For over a decade you have been whining and crying you were unjustly sacked so let us see these other 12 reasons and we can make our own minds up.
Quote from: The Great Dictator on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
Why the admin on this site tolerate this i'll never know
I sent a PM the night he flounced in saying it was going to end in tears. It always does when he joins a board. He is incapable of dealing rationaly with any contrary opinion. Any attempt to censor his more slanderous outburst gets the stock spiel about 'freedom of speech' and how he is the only person daring to speak the truth.
I suspect he has done much in the last few days to show people just why he was sacked in the first place.
Goodbye Mr Close.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
Goodbye Mr Close.
That will be because you are afraid to give us the 12 non Mandelson related reasons for your sacking. Reasons that show you are a bully and a coward.
So much for the fearless speaker-of-the-truth.................
I've been polite and honest in all my replies. No abuse whatsoever.
Can others say the same?
And I use my name. No hiding behind nomdeplumes and multiple user accounts.
I've been polite and honest in all my replies. No abuse whatsoever.
Can others say the same?
And I use my name. No hiding behind nomdeplumes and multiple user accounts.
No. You're just plain wrong Mr Close.
How many user accounts has Close got? Genuine question BTW.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
I've been polite and honest in all my replies. No abuse whatsoever.
That is a lie. The first night you started posting you were extremely abusive and the posts were deleted.
You are a liar.
What more you continue to hide the 12 non Mandelson reasons for your sacking.
Reasons that show you to be a bullying inventer of facts.
Just for clarity then MK1, you're not Stephen Close?
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
How many user accounts has Close got? Genuine question BTW.
I have one account. An account started on the old board whilst S Close was also a member.
S Close I believe still has an ID here.
Tell you what 'Arry I give you my complete authority to ask the Administrators if I am S Close.
Now can you give us the 12 non Madelson reasons for your sacking. Why are you hiding them when for a decade or more you have trumpeted the Mandelson reasons.
NOTEWhen Blackwood was sacked he was given a list of 25 specific reasons for his departure. For over a decade he has prattled on about the 13 'Labour' reasons but never mentions the other 12 examples.
Quote from: George on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
Just for clarity then MK1, you're not Stephen Close?
Not even close!
An absurd claim from a delusional paranoid wannabe Perry White
For the sake of accuracy. I was dismissed unfairly. Johnston Press settled out of court and I was paid a five figure some. If anyone wishes to see the settlement letter they are more than welcome.
For the sake of accuracy. I was dismissed unfairly. Johnston Press settled out of court and I was paid a five figure some. If anyone wishes to see the settlement letter they are more than welcome.
No one really cares fella, you're obviously a bit unhinged.
Harry did that really happen? Did you win a court case? Honesly, you should mention it more often. There's at least 3 people left in Hartlepool who don't already know. Idiot.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 03: PM
For the sake of accuracy. I was dismissed unfairly. Johnston Press settled out of court and I was paid a five figure some. If anyone wishes to see the settlement letter they are more than welcome.
Hmmm......so you want to show us that letter but not the one that lists the 25 reasons for your sacking?
Odd that. You would think you would be keen to show us these made-up invented charges against you.
I think you are desperate to keep them secret because they show you for what you really are.
No Steve Close . Call round I'll give you them. Then you can post them on here or anywhere else you wish. How does that suit?
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 19, 2014, 04: PM
No Steve Close . Call round I'll give you them. Then you can post them on here or anywhere else you wish. How does that suit?
Drop them at his shop and I will pick them up from there.
No. He can call in. He knows where I live. Or, if as you say, you're not Close, then PM me and I'll give you my address. You can call in for them. I'll even make you a cup of coffee. Seems a fair offer.
I will pop in the shop and ask him if he will pick them up for me. That OK with you?
If you think I am S Close I don't really care and I am more than happy to pander to your delusion.
To get this thread back on track, any chance of an answer to my original question? Thanks.
Just call in yourself. Do you want my address? I don't bite and I have a great coffee machine. Biscuits as well if you want. Be nice to have a chat. We might have things in common.
What next with you guys My dad can fight your dad, come on we're supposed to be intelligent adults try behaving that way. By all means attack the political system but NOT EACH OTHER.
As HTH have decided to do nothing about this clown i have forwarded all messages and posts from today to Cleveland Police.
Can i suggest all members that have received the usual insults dial 101 and also make a formal compliant, oddly enough they knew who i was talking about before i mentioned his name..
Can i also suggest that ADMIN grow some balls.
Doesn't that ^^^^ constitute wasting police time.
Innocent of all charges m'lud.
Will it be Ceveand Polce. I do like the thought of being investigated by the most corrupt and discredited police force in the UK. I'd prefer the Met.
Get over yourself.
As a child did you deliberately stand on ants and pull the legs off spiders Harry?? To be perfectly honest and may I make this clear now " in my opinion", YOU ARE A BULLY.
Since resurrecting yourself on here you have whinged, whined, bullied and been abusive to anyone who doesn't want to listen to YOUR story.
Get over yourself, move on, we all have!!
The problems this town currently have are far greater and more important than us all having to listen to your tirade as to how unfairly you were disposed of. Granted it's not nice, granted you are angry, but hey life goes on!!
So if you really believe you can make a difference by being on here then cut out the self righteous, I'm a victim b******s and do it properly.
Oh one more thing, I'm actually S Close..........................??????????????????
Interested. No. You're not Steve Close.
Harry, i'll come clean. I'm Steve Close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0
All sing . . .
One Steven Close
There's only one Steven Close
Oooooooonnnnnnne Steven Close.
:-) :-) :-)
Can I be Steve Close next please?
Quote from: Lord Elpus on March 20, 2014, 11: AM
Can I be Steve Close next please?
Why not. I fancy a change. I am now Angie Wilcox.
Quote from: mk1 on March 20, 2014, 02: PM
Quote from: Lord Elpus on March 20, 2014, 11: AM
Can I be Steve Close next please?
Why not. I fancy a change. I am now Angie Wilcox.
Can I be Mad Marge?
Quote from: norfolkngoode on March 20, 2014, 03: PM
Can I be Mad Marge?
Why not.........ping-pong balls are on the way!
Is there a problem with the PHF website? Genuine question BTW.
I was directed to it this morning and the chairman position is blank.
Calling David Riddle. Nothing in the chairman slot. Why is that?
Regarding the Putting Hartlepool First website, it appears that there is a technical issue; this is in the process of being sorted, but in the meanwhile some of the information currently showing is from the archives - nothing sinister, nothing significant!
Even with my somewhat 'agricultural' understanding of the Internet, a technical error that removes one man's details and photographs from a web page is testing credulity.
Apologies for my cynicism.
David Riddle is showing all of the unpleasant traits of a politician by refusing to answer questions that have been asked here by me, and by others elsewhere.
If he has nothing to hide, then there is absolutely no reason why he can't answer the questions.
So, David, I'll make it easy for you.
Will you be standing as a candidate in the forthcoming council elections?
Yes or no answer please.
Will you be standing in your own ward?
Yes or no answer please.
Do you intent to contest the Hartlepool seat in the 2015 General Election?
Yes or no answer please.
See. Polite questions and no insults.
Let's see how you do this time.
I'm waiting but I'm quite impatient.
Actually, the front page currently shown is a previous version too - it's simply a 'working title' whilst the technicalities get sorted.
Harry, with your background I am sure you realise that it is very unlikely that any candidate, apart from the existing Cllrs , will be declared before they have to regardless of party. It is standard practice, as I am sure you are aware, that one doesn't show one's hand or, in military parlance, you keep your powder dry until you see their eyes. Many would be Cllrs have still to go through the adoption process of their respective parties.
On that basis I suggest you curb your impatience until the last date for registration of candidates.
I doubt that anything of substance regarding manifestos, aims etc will be seen before the campaigning starts in earnest. Again because one doesn't want to give the opposition any advantage perceived or otherwise.
It could all be worth waiting for.
I hardly think I warrant the title of 'PHF supremo' Harry. There are many others who have worked far harder for far longer relating to PHF than I have.
The sad thing here is, you think just because you bark a series of questions to people they should stand to attention and tell you every thing you want to know.
You're not back working at The Mail now fella.
Do you know all the new Labour candidates yet? Do you know which new independents or familiar names will be standing across the town? Do you know the Liberal Democrat candidates? The UKIP ones? Do you?
No... you don't.
You sound a little obsessive.
I realise your story about Derek Bilton and I led to most of the hits on your blog since you launched it, but don't you think you're spinning this out a little now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk
Been away for 5 days and come back to this,brilliant.You can call harry what you like (and everybody does)but he has DRiddle bang to rites.
The thing is Driddle you can't win now.Admit it he's got ye.Harry caught you lying,trying to get your mate a kick in in the process.Sound familiar?.In the end your no better than the rest.
Pensionater. You say no better than the rest. Hard though it may be to grasp (because we have a right shower in charge now) had you considered Riddle may actually be worse. His behaviour so for suggests so.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 03: PM
David Riddle is showing all of the unpleasant traits of a politician by refusing to answer questions that have been asked here by me, and by others elsewhere.
If he has nothing to hide, then there is absolutely no reason why he can't answer the questions.
So, David, I'll make it easy for you.
Will you be standing as a candidate in the forthcoming council elections?
Yes or no answer please.
Will you be standing in your own ward?
Yes or no answer please.
Do you intent to contest the Hartlepool seat in the 2015 General Election?
Yes or no answer please.
See. Polite questions and no insults.
Let's see how you do this time.
I'm waiting but I'm quite impatient.
Thank you Pensionater. Absolutely bang to rights.
Caught lying. At first tried to wriggle but them apologised.
Now he's refusing to answer is ole questions.
I'm a patient and tenacious man. Known for it. Ask Steve. Wallace ;-)
Now Riddler. Any answers for me?
Trying to get my mate a kick? Listen, as has been explained one lad asked another if he should run for MP, the other lad said no but you could probably get enough votes to get on the council. That, in a sentence is the story. I'll tell you what DIDN'T happen. i didnt award my mate a £640,000 contract. . . Honestly, some people on here have seriously lost the plot.
I know a great clinical psychologist if you're interested Harry.
Just answer the questions Riddler. Your credibility is at an all time low and getting lower by the day.
One of my good friends is one of the country's top psychiatrists. Stays with us now and again. Says I'm fine. Harley Street guy as well.
Now that's all true. Because I always tell the truth and always answer questions.
How about you? You are losing any credibility you had.
Still waiting for an answer from Riddler. The questions are piling up. All unanswered.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 05: PM
Still waiting for an answer from Riddler. The questions are piling up. All unanswered.
Still waiting for an answer from Harry Blackwood The questions are piling up. All unanswered.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 05: PM
Just answer the questions Riddler. Your credibility is at an all time low and getting lower by the day.
Just answer the questions Blackwood. Your credibility is at an all time low and getting lower by the day.
I enjoy the forum here and follow it without contributing.
I am compelled to write in support of Harry Blackwood. Many of the posters on here seem to enjoy their role asking difficult questions, often in an aggressive and hostile manner. Mk1 in particular appears to be a homophobic bully with a hectoring, belligerent style.
And now faced with an opponent who gives as good he gets there are squeals of outrage and even suggestions that Harry is somehow the one in need of help. I believe the term is an ad hominem argument - playing the man and not the ball.
Looks to me like the bullies have found a target who won't back down, who won't be intimidated and who as well informed as some of the posters on here - many of whom I respect.
And just to be absolutely clear I have no affiliation with any party, nor have I ever met Harry Blackwood. I am just an ordinary member of the public - though I did enjoy Harry's tenure at the Mail.
Quote from: Memphis Belle on March 21, 2014, 05: PM
Mk1 in particular appears to be a homophobic bully with a hectoring, belligerent style.
Unlike the shrinking violet Harry Blackwood............
He he i would like to know which one of the labour lot memphis belle END is,the word belle END might give us a clue.
Quote from: Memphis Belle on March 21, 2014, 05: PM
who won't back down, who won't be intimidated and who as well informed as some of the posters on here - many of whom I respect.
.
And Harry's ship is going to founder on someone who won't be fobbed off with pathetic self-serving partial excuses as to why he was sacked.
I think it is great he posts here. Paranoia consumes him (how many has he claimed to be S Close so far?) and his fuse is very short I bet there are many who who now think his sacking was not as undeserved as has been claiming.
MK1 i don't use Facebook talking to a work colleague today by all account harry is upsetting everyone on there.
he was that riled he said to harry ill meet you anywhere tell me where and ill knock seven bells out of you harry backed down rather quickly.
Stokoe grow up.If i'm not mistaken it was you who first brought Harry's blog to my attention.What's the matter have you introduced someone that people can't bully like they did with ARC?.
Quote from: pensionater on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
What's the matter have you introduced someone that people can't bully like they did with ARC?.
Oh my aching sides.....
please no more...........
I can't even stand with laughing...........
Calling people who complain about Blackwood's bullying 'bullies'!!!!!!!!
I think I just pis*sed myself...................
I'm new too.
Do I have to declare sides or can I just claim to be Swiss?
Michael, I've told you, call in, I'll Akers you a cup of coffee, perhaps give you a makeover and give you a copy of the findings and then you can publish at will. Seems a fair offer.
Stoke, or would you prefer Edward?
Not sure what your problem is? But your contribution just seems bitter and rather worthless.
Michael, as I said, call in. I'll smarten you up and pour you a coffee. I'll give you the info you want.
Memphis. Thank you. Very kind.
Quote from: Pwilson on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
I'm new too.
Do I have to declare sides or can I just claim to be Swiss?
Definately remain Swiss. ;)
MK1. Michael my dear boy. I'm not a shrinking violet at all. I see it I say it. I ALWAYS tell the truth. I ALWAYS use my own name. You on the other hand . . .
Not going well for you this, is it?
Keep going and your surname is going out there.
If you won't use your name I have no problem revealing it.
Pensionater. Oh, I dislike bullies almost as much as liars. Nobody intimidates me. Nobody scares me. Nobody bullies me. I even use my own name all the time. You've heard if Dirty Harry. I'm clean Harry. TRUTH VIBRATIONS. I love them.
Anything from Riddler yet.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
MK1. Michael my dear boy. I'm not a shrinking violet at all. I see it I say it. I ALWAYS tell the truth. I ALWAYS use my own name. You on the other hand . . .
Not going well for you this, is it?
Keep going and your surname is going out there.
If you won't use your name I have no problem revealing it.
Do whatever you want Harry. Your threats don't scare me.
It seems you will do anything in order to keep secret the 12 ' non political' reasons for your sacking. You really want to keep the lid on them don't you?
Michael Kenny AKA MK1.
I've told you. I'll give you the full report and you can do what you want with it. Publish it in full on here. She your ar** in Binns window with bits of it stuck on.
There is nothing in that report tat bears any close scrutiny. A put up job.
But even if it was all true there's nothing that I'm embarrassed about or have bad feelings about.
Now, Mr Kenny, do you want it or not. Just let me know when you are calling in and I'll ave it ready for you. Otherwise shut up because you're making yourself look very foolish.
Ladies, ladies, ladies !!!
Are we all done with the name calling and p*****g around trying to goad each other into revealing stuff which obviously none of you are prepared to do!!
Arry!! - What the f**k has it got to do with you what DRiddle wants to do, what seat/ward he may want to stand for?
...........................exactly, it has nothing to do with you whatsoever, so back off and get back to whining about your obvious unfair dismisal/ sacking all those years ago.
MK1 - Arry isnt going to offer up the other 12 reasons he was dismissed (unfairly) for all those years ago, get the info elsewhere!
DRiddle - Good luck lad, it looks like they are all out to get you, keep smiling, keep it honest and simple and they will all be confused, honesty and simplicity is something they are not familiar with ;)
As always gentlemen i remain unbiased and very INTERESTED!!!!
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
Michael Kenny AKA MK1.
Wrong
I am S Close............
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
I've told you. I'll give you the full report and you can do what you want with it
I don't want the full report. Just the 12 reasons for your sacking. Not the full 25 reasons.
Keep dodging the issue.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
She your ar** in Binns window with bits of it stuck on.
If I get it I will post a photo of it stuck to my bare ar*se. You have my word.
Interested. Riddler and honest in the same sentence. Surely some mistake.
FWIW. I always use my own name. That's because I've got nothing to hide and nothing to fear.
How about you?
No. You're lying.
You're not Close.
You are Michael Kenny and I claim my £5.
I don't like liars.
Michael Kenny. The reason always use my own name is because I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear.
Now, what about you?
This isn't amusing any more.
Why?
I find that truth is a very powerful tool. Honesty the best policy.
This site is not very nice. I have read some of the post's on here, I am not impressed at all.
Grown men, some who ask questions in an orderly manner (thank you Mr Blackwood), others who appear to be bullies toward other members.....strange!
I agree, but badgering people on here isn't going to get it.
BTW Interested. I haven't called anybody names. Fair enough I've called people by their real names but what's wrong with that?
I find that truth is a very powerful tool. Honesty the best policy.
Oh, it's not badgering. Remember that great Paxman interview?
Just asking the questions, man.
I'm sure we are all clever enough to know nobody is going to answer anything if they don't the first time.
Quote from: Interested on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
MK1 - Arry isnt going to offer up the other 12 reasons he was dismissed (unfairly) for all those years ago, get the info elsewhere!
I think Harry has let the cat out of the bag.
Here is what he said:
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 21, 2014, 06: PM
There is nothing in that report that bears any close scrutiny. A put up job.
But even if it was all true there's nothing that I'm embarrassed about or have bad feelings about.
'Even if it was all true?
If it was all lies then expose the liars and vindicate yourself.
I totally agree Arry, honesty is the best policy and my thoughts and sentiments exactly, however your over zealous, bullying tactics are wrong.
You're not a journalist anymore so you dont have to go for the jugular every time you feel its your right to have some information.
If that info isnt forthcoming you will repeatedly goad them into some form of submission or response your journalism talents can spin to death.
Stop being so agressive and chill out, lifes too short ;) ;) ;)
Michael Kenny AKA MK1.
You can come to my house. You can have the full report. You can do whatever you want with it.
Tat seems to me a perfect chance for you to expose me or whatever it is you want to do.
IMHO it was a put up job. Total bollocks. But I'm happy for others via your goodself to judge.
When are you calling in for it?
Interested. Why do you say I'm no longer a journalist.
You're totally wrong but I just wondered why you say it?
QuoteBTW Interested. I haven't called anybody names
said Harry.
Is that a fact Harry? Is that you living by your mantra of total honesty and integrity?
You're not the only one who can make screen grabs you know.
Which would you like me to share?
(a) The one where you called me a c#*t
(b) The one where you called a woman a sl#t
(c) The one where you called anaother woman a sl@g
Which of those would you mostly like to talk about Harry? Or would you simply prefer to harp on about how 2 lads discussed running for council and paint it as some kind of journalistic revelation?
Carry on Riddler. Be my guest.
Any answers yet?
So you accept you did all of those things, yes?
Just put whatever you want up. I'm not admitting or denying anything to you. Just carry on.
Be brave.
You're making yourself look really foolish but it's your choice.
Crack on.
I'll take that as a yes you did. ;)
By the way Riddler, that Joe Hudson blog you write is rubbish. No wonder you daren't put your name to it.
BTW I don't think much of Lifelonglabourvoter's material either. Very similar to yours ;-)
Quote from: DRiddle on March 21, 2014, 08: PM
I'll take that as a yes you did. ;)
I'm sure you will because you're a proven liar. But as everyone reading this can see, it's not what I said.
Harry,
You encourage people not to vote.
Why then are you so interested in a minor seat, in a minor ward from a minor party.
You are getting boring my old friend.
You can follow the logic. Labour are getting in on 800 votes. If someone with a large facebook following can get them out to vote then Labour are toast.
If that means an unknown gets in then I say it is far far better than the wino and the 2 fatties presently returned. He can not be worse for sure.
It worked for Drummond and as an effective tactic it can not be faulted. It is not as underhand as Labour's wholesale harvesting of all the postal votes in the OAP homes in the area
So what you are saying MK1 is precisely what Driddle and his mate think.That it doesn't matter if you have the good of the town at heart just so long as it's not the Labour party that's ok.Someone who allegedly walks round with his dick hanging out will be better for the town.You and Driddle must have a very low opinion of the voters of Hartlepool.
Quote from: pensionater on March 21, 2014, 09: PM
So what you are saying MK1 is precisely what Driddle and his mate think.That it doesn't matter if you have the good of the town at heart just so long as it's not the Labour party that's ok.Someone who allegedly walks round with his dick hanging out will be better for the town.You and Driddle must have a very low opinion of the voters of Hartlepool.
Look who they elect now and tell me that is intelligent voting.
I admire those who strive for perfection but sometimes you have to think in terms of 'good enough'.
I start from the premise that
anyone is better than the 3 idiots that got elected. One is a well known alky that can be seen staggering around the town centre most afternoons.
And I have to ask who are you to decide what constitutes a proper candidate. If he gets the votes then that is the way it works
Labour have made an art of getting gormless people voting them in so why the fuss if someone else uses the same tactic against them.
Only a certain number of people vote and Labour have the votes of most of them sewn up. This is a way of tapping a stream of untainted first time voters and it is no good hoping that an established party can hive off the Labour voters because they can not. Move aside failed parties and let someone else have a go.
Sometimes you have to work with what you have got and it is no good pretending that any other contender has the votes to get in. What I see is an attempt to reach out to those who do not vote for any party and are thus beyond the reach of the Labour bribe machine.
I don't normally get involved in the occasional cat-fights that creep onto this forum from time to time but I will say this. I had a lot of sympathy with Harry Blackwood over the way he was disposed of by Mandelson and the sycophantic Hartlepool Mail's owners. It was a very sad day when politicians were allowed to control who should edit the paper.
That said, it was all a long time ago and while the rest of us have moved on Harry has clearly been unable to do so. For 11 years Harry has brooded about it all with such intensity that it has turned him into a very bitter man desperate to prove that he's still someone to be reckoned with - it may have been true at one time but sadly, not any more. Move on, Harry before you lose the support of anyone else.
The simple fact is that if the Labour Party loses badly in Hartlepool council elections we become a town worth fighting over.
We get a decent Tory & Liberal candidate to fight against the current oxygen thief and hopefully become a town that attracts competition.
I personally think the best people to run a town are probably people who have been sucessful in business, but as the financial rewards (at least the published ones) aren't huge then ordinary, non political residents are the next best thing.
:-[ I think it shows the frailty of the admin of this site, to allow this decline in debate
and blatant bullying is an admission of defeat. HTH is on its last legs. :-[
He he i would like to know which one of the labour lot memphis belle END is,the word belle END might give us a clue.
Well I suspected as much. Though in all honesty I am not surprised at the desperately low levels of intelligence displayed by some posters. Quite why the Labour Party would choose to support Harry seems illogical.
I am just enjoying the irony of a campaigning, fearless site, oh so proud that they received a mention or two in Private Eye, now crying foul because a campaigning, fearless journalist is being beastly by........ asking questions.
Let's all go back to bullying targets who won't come back and defend themselves, shall we?
Couldn't agree more Memphis Belle,this is a brilliant and important site but any new posters are classed as Labour infiltrators till they prove otherwise.When one of their own (Driddle)is caught lying very few put their heads above the parapet and condemn him.
I have been an observer of this site for a few years. I agree it is important and has raised some very important issues that would have been ignored.
There are some very well informed people who post, with a lot of information and expertise and I have admired the breadth of debate.
I just don't get the anti- Harry Blackwood campaign. He was a passionate editor of what was once a terrific local newspaper. He has offered to show a legal letter about his dismissal to anybody that is prepared to meet him and he has asked some uncomfortable questions. Harry certainly doesn't need me to fight his battles but apart from ruffling feathers on a site that prides itself on ruffling feathers................ Could somebody please explain?
Quote from: Memphis Belle on March 22, 2014, 10: AM
He he i would like to know which one of the labour lot memphis belle END is,the word belle END might give us a clue.
Well I suspected as much. Though in all honesty I am not surprised at the desperately low levels of intelligence displayed by some posters. Quite why the Labour Party would choose to support Harry seems illogical.
I am just enjoying the irony of a campaigning, fearless site, oh so proud that they received a mention or two in Private Eye, now crying foul because a campaigning, fearless journalist is being beastly by........ asking questions.
Let's all go back to bullying targets who won't come back and defend themselves, shall we?
Quote from: pensionater on March 22, 2014, 10: AM
Couldn't agree more Memphis Belle,this is a brilliant and important site but any new posters are classed as Labour infiltrators till they prove otherwise.When one of their own (Driddle)is caught lying very few put their heads above the parapet and condemn him.
Quote from: Memphis Belle on March 22, 2014, 11: AM
I have been an observer of this site for a few years. I agree it is important and has raised some very important issues that would have been ignored.
There are some very well informed people who post, with a lot of information and expertise and I have admired the breadth of debate.
I just don't get the anti- Harry Blackwood campaign. He was a passionate editor of what was once a terrific local newspaper. He has offered to show a legal letter about his dismissal to anybody that is prepared to meet him and he has asked some uncomfortable questions. Harry certainly doesn't need me to fight his battles but apart from ruffling feathers on a site that prides itself on ruffling feathers................ Could somebody please explain?
belle end and pensionator or 1 of the same i really don't give 2 f**k* what you think,the real shame is the people of hartlepool is getting totally shagged by the labour lot and the like of wells and others,and harry aint helping.
Both as bad and as good as each other I think. Whenever bickering of this type dominates this forum I think people's attention soon switches from what the participants are saying to the way in which they are saying it. It stops being a debate and turns into entertainment.
I think I need to make an important point. This forum is a facility provided by the Hartlepool Post for people to express their own opinions. However, those opinions have very little to do with the Hartlepool Post website itself which continues to highlight matters which, by and large, HBC would rather people didn't know about. People who read the comments on the Hartlepool Mail website do not assume the opinions expressed are the opinions of the Hartlepool Mail so why do people insist on believing that the posts on this forum reflect the views of the Hartlepool Post?
If people want to behave like children in a schoolyard it only reflects on themselves - and themselves alone.
Just to offer a ringing endorsement of the Hartlepool Post website. It does a fantastic job highlighting stories that really should be in the Hartlepool Mail.
The decline of the Hartlepool Mail and the fact that the paper is in bed with the council and the MP, is a huge threat to public accountability and democracy so I applaud THP in doing the best it can with limited resources to do what a good local paper should be doing.
He's probably studying you for a medical journal paper.
Although having said that, i haven't even met you and know i could diagnose you in about 10 minutes flat.
I think its very clear who's lost credibilty over the last few days Mr Blackwood. And it sure as hell isn't me.
I think we have determined that marbles are not lost but the plot is another matter.
Lets have a soundbite from PHF's serving councillors...
They have all had 5K to play with recently, what have they all done with it ?
The reason I ask this is there is no hiding behind the ruling Lab-Con group.
On second thoughts, a list of what all councillors have done with their 5K might be a good indication if they should be allowed to play with bigger budgets.
Maybe we could expand that to have a Hartlepool Post credibility index
...councillor gets moved down for not making a decision in the interests of the residents or blatant propaganda/ white lies
...councillor gets moved up if stands up as voice of the residents or actually delivers something
I've always had the utmost respect for Harry and he was in my opinion a really good editor of the Mail, however, I fail to see what this thread is all about.
There are some serious issues being highlighted on the front page of this site which have all sorts of implications for the people of Hartlepool, all Harry seems to be interested in is whether someone has or has not resigned and someone I've never heard is standing for office.
With the best will in the world, this is a non story.
If Harry really wants to make a difference there's plenty of major stories for him to get his teeth into and show that he's still can function with a degree of professionalism in an impartial manner like a true investigative journalist.
I like Land Phils idea of a league table. Or some kind of barometer of who is doing well as a councillors and who isn't.
Quote from: DRiddle on March 23, 2014, 08: AM
He's probably studying you for a medical journal paper.
Although having said that, i haven't even met you and know i could diagnose you in about 10 minutes flat.
I think its very clear who's lost credibilty over the last few days Mr Blackwood. And it sure as hell isn't me.
This is partly true Riddle. You haven't lost credibility. You never had any to begin with. Nobody think you have any apart from yourself.
Don't worry young man, my integrity and honesty is 100% intact. You've been proved a liar and I'll be doing it again very soon. Back in your box.
David Riddle is showing all of the unpleasant traits of a politician by refusing to answer questions that have been asked here by me, and by others elsewhere.
If he has nothing to hide, then there is absolutely no reason why he can't answer the questions.
So, David, I'll make it easy for you.
Will you be standing as a candidate in the forthcoming council elections?
Yes or no answer please.
Will you be standing in your own ward?
Yes or no answer please.
Do you intent to contest the Hartlepool seat in the 2015 General Election?
Yes or no answer please.
See. Polite questions and no insults.
Let's see how you do this time.
I'm waiting but I'm quite impatient.
For gods sake admin can we get rid? its like having a cross between kilroy silk and david icke.
I don't get this. Apart from those sitting Councillors up for re-election I have no idea as yet who will be standing for whom in the local elections. With a couple of months still to go I would imagine there are quite a few people from all parties still deciding whether or not to stand for their 'team' or as Independents.
Quite why you think Riddle is under any obligation whatsoever to tell you what his own intentions are is beyond me as are the reasons why you have decided to home in on the guy for your special attention. As someone who encourages us all not to bother voting at all, quite why you are so obsessed by who is standing where only serves to display your inconsistency.
Why do you think it's so weird for someone to take an interest in a area of town outside his/her own ward? After all, you seem to take a lot of interest in a whole town where you don't even live.
Its no use Stokoe, Steve Fleet lost his bottle months ago, sadly this site is going down the pan :(
Harry, we've been through all of this. You've found a quote from me saying i'll never stand anywhere other than in my own ward.
You're desperate for me to say I'm standing somewhere else so you can 'reveal' the quote, and attempt to make me out to be a liar.
Right?
Anyway, I'm busy promoting Putting Hartlepool First and day by day more and more people are warming to us in this town, and warming to the idea of voting out most of the current lot.
By all means keep nibbling at me to try and draw attention to your blog. By the looks of the hits you've had on it since the 'gravy' article, you need the publicity.
Wrong again Riddler. But keep guessing. I proved you a liar once and I'll do it again.
That's a promise.
You have zero credibility and zero integrity. You are also a liar. In many ways, a perfect politician.
c`mon then Harry please tell us all (truthfully) why you are so hell bent in finding out if DRiddle is standing and for what ward?
Does it really make a difference where, or even if he is standing?
Makes no jot at all to me, or probably a lot of others, if he doesnt stand someone else will.
Just tell me why you need to know so badly and are openly pursuing the man for details.
Quite pathetic really!!!
Sounds to me that Harry is rooting for the SCABS
Rooting for the SCABs? Lord no. They're an absolute disgrace. I simply want politicians who are decent, honest and with integrity. That's it. No agenda.
Harry,
You've heard the phrase 'if you can't beat them join them' I presume. So why not declare yourself in for a ward and rip things apart once you're inside?
I don't know you from Adam but sounds like you would make a reasonable change from the current shower, but I think Mr Riddle would also be a change for the better.
In fact even a Labour candidate with some integrity and a pair of balls to stand up to the SCABs would be better than none.
PWilson, I sincerely believe the public want politicians with honesty and integrity. I also believe that party politics have no place in local council politics. I think the people running our town are an absolute disgrace. Useless, lacking integrity and honesty. Quite frankly I can't believe we've got into a position where the SCABs and Dave Stubbs are in charge. I really can't work out how the hell it happened.
But (and here's the rub) I honestly believe that although there are some good people involved with PHF, Riddle's agenda will bring about in-fighting and dissent. They are no alternative.
As for standing myself I'm afraid I'm not a resident of the town so I wouldn't be eligible. Even if I was i would have no interest in standing.
We have had new Labour, just like old Labour in as much as it associates itself with the colour red and everything else has been forgotten.
We had PHF, lots of good intentions and not much opportunity to deliver, now we have new PHF, just like new Labour it has been a hijacking of a party where you don't feel like you recognise it anymore or feel welcome.
I feef the new face of PHF is so different to the old that they should rename, rebrand and show their true colours.
Plus as an aside, how are they going to get around their potential candidates salacious tweets.
I don't even use Twitter and I've seen them circulating, good ammunition for the other parties to disgrace PHF come the elections.
The last week has been one of those times where the masks have slipped and it has been very ugly.
Quote from: Land Phil on March 23, 2014, 08: PM
Plus as an aside, how are they going to get around their potential candidates salacious tweets.
I don't even use Twitter and I've seen them circulating, good ammunition for the other parties to disgrace PHF come the elections.
Can you tell us where you were told this is a PHF candidate?
I've come into this game pretty late but please tell me Bilton isn't going to be a candidate??? that has to be a joke!! We all have history but most people history doesn't involve football hooliganism and getting barred out of every pub in town.
No worse than the liars, cheats, drunkards, cowards and dead weight that currently sit and decide our fate.
I've got a question for Dave Riddle. Today I posted a link to my blog on the PHF Facebook page and on my own status. I was deleted and blocked within 10 minutes. This is what I posted:
A few days ago a friend of mine posted this about PHF:
Here is a message to all my facebook friends , I have just been cut off from the PUTTING HARTLEPOOL FIRST site, the name of the site is a contradiction in itself, these people are egotistical maniacs who are trying to manipulate the electorate with promises they cannot keep and as soon as you try to make any points to them ,they revert back to being children ,They are an extremely dangerous breed and should be avoided at all costs .No one more than me knows the need for change in Hartlepool , but we are seriously not that hard up we need nursery school politicians on a power rush. On a side issue I like the idea muted earlier what about a lady MP , the wannabes have had a good run, now that would be a real change for the town and we wouldn't be swapping like for like now Mandy has gone, Take heed people PHF are not what they appear and they are abusing your disenchantment with politics , I don't doubt I will be getting some sort of stick now I cant answer , but that just shows the mindset of the group , IM OUT.
I think he's been treated very unfairly by Putting Hartlepool First and prompted me to write this: http://wp.me/p2BV0e-8q
Now the main thrust of this blog is essentially about the deletion of posts that PHF don't like, blocking of people they don't like and their evasion of awkward questions. I've had lots of positive feedback from other PHF members who've also forwarded screenshots of their own deleted posts.
So OK, I'm not naiive. I knew I'd be deleted and blocked but I'm not that easy to get rid of. So please tell me why Paul was deleted and blocked and please tell me why I was.
Monty,
Check out his Twitter feed, go back through the posts for the last 3 month or so ;)
Yet another round in the Harry Blackwood saga and from a poster who says
Harry and I increasingly find each other commenting on the same threads on Facebook by virtue of having mutual friends from our common interest in cycling. Eventually we ended up becoming friends on Facebook
I could turn around another of your statements:
Oh dear, out of nowhere comes this fella Robinson
and make it:
Oh dear, out of nowhere comes this fella Jamescambell78
Yet another conspiracy MK1?.Must every new poster be a spy.Touch of paranoia me thinks.
Quote from: pensionater on March 23, 2014, 11: PM
Yet another conspiracy MK1?.Must every new poster be a spy.Touch of paranoia me thinks.
Well I never said anything about 'spies' but a mate of Blackwood turning up to have a go at Riddle is not a coincidence.
I have been reading these forums for a long time but probably wouldn't have posted except that I have a question for Dave Riddle and since PHF have blocked me this is now the only way I could see of putting it to him publicly again. I've asked questions of PHF all week and haven't got a single straight answer. So have others, lots of peoples questions and comments were removed from their page.
That annoys me because a group that is presenting themselves as an alternative option for Hartlepool voters are clearly manipulating information to prevent them from looking like a group that has one single aim (getting into office) and no clear plan for the town beyond that point.
So, let me get this right MK1 (for honesty I prefer to use your real name of Michael Kenny). A new poster arrives on here and you immediately turn on him.
You do this despite the fact that he's honest and decent enough to use his own name (you should try it, now that I've outed you) and you turn on him.
As far as I can see your only reason for doing this is that YOU have decided that James is a mate of mine.
In the interests of honesty and integrity (I'm really big on this) I've never met James and have never even spoken to each other.
Once again a needless personal attack from a man hiding behind a redundant nomdeplume.
The thing is you just need to go on the PHF face book page to see that James is telling the truth.Members are complaining because Riddle is not showing their posts.His excuse is that he has to make more space?,more likely that they are asking question's that are a little bit uncomfortable.
Odd how just before the local elctions someone or something arrives on the site, runs riot like an attention seeking chav who's overdone the blue lemonade turning up at a prayer meeting........then quickly fades away post election.....it's becoming a pattern.
Quote from: Pwilson on March 23, 2014, 09: PM
No worse than the liars, cheats, drunkards, cowards and dead weight that currently sit and decide our fate.
You sure about that?
Genuine question BTW.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 07: AM
As far as I can see your only reason for doing this is that YOU have decided that James is a mate of mine.
No he said it on his blog
'Eventually we ended up becoming friends on Facebook
Quote from: pensionater on March 24, 2014, 07: AM
The thing is you just need to go on the PHF face book page to see that James is telling the truth.Members are complaining because Riddle is not showing their posts.His excuse is that he has to make more space?,more likely that they are asking question's that are a little bit uncomfortable.
And if your really interested you can visit his rambling 36 page blog.
http://jamescampbell78.wordpress.com/2014/03/23/putting-hartlepool-first-2/
36 pages of complaining!
Pre election it's a case of shelling the contenders.... whilst mildly denouncong the sitting tensnts..... then the direction changes slowly but surely, like a fully laden supertsnker to suggesting the contrnders are 'mad, bad and dangerous to know'....and the sitting tenants are not really that bad after all.
There is no debate... just irrelevsnt distracting chaos.... the bearpit comsumes all till the votes are counted.
Michael Kenny. MK1. Why the personal attacks on James Campbell?
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 07: AM
Quote from: Pwilson on March 23, 2014, 09: PM
No worse than the liars, cheats, drunkards, cowards and dead weight that currently sit and decide our fate.
You sure about that?
Genuine question BTW.
To be honest I just want change at this point in time. Preferably the kind of change that removes the inordinate amount of Power seemingly wielded by CAB & Carl Richardson.
Nobody is ever going to be perfect & as much as I want change I have a similar opinion of politics to you, therefore would never try to be elected as I value other things in life. However I do want my politicians to be like me and to listen to me. So from that latter point of view Riddle & Bilton are preferable to elderly people or some of the current Labour lot.
Whether they (PHF) want to listen or not I don't know but if they field a decent candidate in my ward I may vote, bit I'll also look to anyone who isn't labour sponsored too, and will hope its not some mystery life long labour sympathiser.
Whatever happens, as a voter I'm going to be left feeling short changed. I live in a ward used as political collateral damage when CAB needed to keep a seat in Manor last year, a seat with a Labour heavyweight known for never speaking.
PWilson. I 'get' all of that. I sincerely hope you get a decent, honest candidate worth voting fir.
One of life great truths is that the desire to be a politician often lives inside those who shouldn't be given such responsibility.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 07: AM
Michael Kenny. MK1. Why the personal attacks on James Campbell?
I made no mention of anything remotely personal but when someone turns up and with his first post starts battering Riddle and supports it with a linked
36 page complaints then I think a little scepticism is warranted.
You will have to get over this delusion that anyone who has an opinion contrary to yours is wrong, mad or bad. You obviously have given up hope of change and for some unknown reason seek to destroy those who still are trying. I and a few other think that yes it is better to be mauled by a labrador rather than a lion. Labour have the Old Peoples postal votes stitched up and so getting them out need a bit of ingenuity. If some dick-flashing plonky can mobilise his facebook following to evict Mad Dog then yes I think it is worth a go. I mean I dont even think his running will dint any of the other parties because I assume his voters are the ones who never vote.
For some unfathomable reason Riddle has become your target and I can not for the life of me understand why you seem measure your worth by the amount of fights you can start.
Quotelooking like a group that has one single aim (getting into office) and no clear plan for the town beyond that point.
Am i missing something here? It is NOT the job of elected ward councillors to come up with some sort of 'plan for Hartlepool'. That is why we have a CEO on £140,000 per year and a multitude of other people paid significant salaries to formulate and execute a stratedgy for the progression of our town.
Those of you who are calling for PHF to reveal some sort of 'grand plan' are completely missing the point.
That is NOT what ward councillors are there to do. That is the job of the CEO, officers and their associated staff.
It's seems that many people have been taken in by the whole 'Hartlepool Vision' nonsence and are now expecting the same sort of thing from a group of independent councillors.
Is John Lauderdale being hounded for HIS grand plan for the town? Is Paul Thompson being hounded for HIS grand plan for the town? Is Pamela Hargreaves being hounded for HER grand plan for the town?
The people attacking PHF are totally missing the point. A central aim of what we're about IS 'taking control of the council' yes, BUT in taking control we would ensure that the power is put BACK into the hands of council officers, not in the hands of a small group of councillors whom an independent peer review team strongly suspected were 'persuing their own interests'.
A central reason in why we are trying to do what we are doing is so that control of the council essentially lies with its officers, NOT people with no business accumen, no track record for dealing with multi millions of pounds, and lets be honest, in some cases at least, no bloody clue what they are doing.
I trust that makes things a bit clearer.
"No worse"!!! Is this guy having a laugh? I've seen his fb page (before he cleaned it up) it was full of filth. How many councillors have been banned from footy grounds or walk around town with there knobs hanging out? Gravy and Ridders have been mates from school they all p**s in the same pot.
Michael Kenny. Had it occurred to you that James Campbell's opinion of Riddler, PHF and Bilton, might actually have nothing to do with this connection to me?
Why do you have such a problem with someone (using his own name) expressing an opinion?
Seems a bit hypocritical. You seem free with personal attacks on people and strong opinions yet you don't even have the decency to use your own name.
Just to reiterate I have never met or spoken to James.
To clarify, said person is not a member of PHF, is not standing for PHF and his link with us is virtually none existent.
As i have openly stated, yes i did go to school with 'Gravy', I also went to school with around 1,500 other people. Some of whom are now business leaders, some heroin addicts, some CEO's, some shop lifters, some professional footballers, and some, tragically, are dead.
What exactly is the point?
Quote from: monty767 on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
"No worse"!!! Is this guy having a laugh? I've seen his fb page (before he cleaned it up) it was full of filth. How many councillors have been banned from footy grounds or walk around town with there knobs hanging out? Gravy and Ridders have been mates from school they all p**s in the same pot.
Drummond, who was elected with the help of one H Blackwood was very lucky to escape prosecution for a very serious offence whilst he was mascot.
One Labout stalwart is a serial bankrupt who specialises in obtaining public funding and then going belly up and bilking his suppliers. Several Labour Councillors make large amounts of money from contracts awarded to them by fellow councillors. Look at the c. 1 million Wilcox got before she was allowed to leave with the loot. A certain Tory councillor makes very good use of his 'contacts' in planning to help out mates. Do not tell me we can not do better.
For clarification cos Riddler is hiding the truth again. He shared a house at university with Bilton. They are long term friends. They have had political discussions. ALL FACTS.
I'm leaving personality aside. I don't care what someone has done outside of politics what makes us human is the ability to make mistakes.
I can judge Labour on the way the party whips control things, everyone else has a clean slate including most sitting independents. I can't say I'll vote PHF I don't have a candidate to choose from but I won't vote for the ones who are sitting now when their time comes.
One or two councillors who listen to & critically challenge officers would be good. The traveller sites debacle opened my eyes, if PHF open more is that a bad thing?
Regarding Riddler's earlier statement about him and Bilton. Good try at being evasive and putting up a smokescreen. But here's his response to me when I was trying to work out what was going on with him and Bilton.
"Apologies for yesterday and the Derek bilton thing harry. I had two intentions really, one was to draw attention to our group over FB as he has lots of local friends of voting age and two if I can get approval from the party I want to put Derek up as a paper candidate in owton manor. Mainly to try to knock out Marjorie James."
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
Michael Kenny. Had it occurred to you that James Campbell's opinion of Riddler, PHF and Bilton, might actually have nothing to do with this connection to me?
It did occur to me that it is a complete coincidence that a man who claims to be your cyber buddy and with whom you were doing a two-handed hatchet job on the PHF site pitches up here to continue ploughing a furrow started by you.
But If I am being honest it was but a fleeting moment.............
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
Why do you have such a problem with someone (using his own name) expressing an opinion?
I dunno.maybe its because I a stinking coward who hides behind a keyboard and lacks backbone...........that suit you?
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
Just to reiterate I have never met or spoken to James.
Typical politicians half answer. You do not have to have met and actualy spoken.
He clearly says:
Eventually we ended up becoming friends on Facebook.so you do know him and (he claims) share the same outlook. Perhaps you should have a word with him and clear up his confusion?
Quote from: Pwilson on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
I'm leaving personality aside. I don't care what someone has done outside of politics what makes us human is the ability to make mistakes.
Hang on. You claim Bilton has done something outside politics which bars him from office. But things other do outside politics is ok with you?
Ok clear as mud.
Michael Kenny (glad we cleared that up) i have about 400 FB friends. 90% of them I've never met. Thousands read my blog. Never met 90% of them.
I'm totally honest.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
Regarding Riddler's earlier statement about him and Bilton. Good try at being evasive and putting up a smokescreen. But here's his response to me when I was trying to work out what was going on with him and Bilton.
"Apologies for yesterday and the Derek bilton thing harry. I had two intentions really, one was to draw attention to our group over FB as he has lots of local friends of voting age and two if I can get approval from the party I want to put Derek up as a paper candidate in owton manor. Mainly to try to knock out Marjorie James."
I'd like Michael Kenny's thoughts on this please.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 09: AM
I'd like Michael Kenny's thoughts on this please.
Right. I think.....err I mean I can't speak for him but my view was given earlier in the thread.
Quote from: mk1 on March 21, 2014, 09: PM
You can follow the logic. Labour are getting in on 800 votes. If someone with a large facebook following can get them out to vote then Labour are toast.
If that means an unknown gets in then I say it is far far better than the wino and the 2 fatties presently returned. He can not be worse for sure.
It worked for Drummond and as an effective tactic it can not be faulted. It is not as underhand as Labour's wholesale harvesting of all the postal votes in the OAP homes in the area
Yes little 'ol me worked it all out by his lonesome. I am amazed someone as sharp as you needed it spelling out.
PS.
Listening to Mr men can lead you astray.
QuoteFor clarification cos Riddler is hiding the truth again. He shared a house at university with Bilton. They are long term friends. They have had political discussions. ALL FACTS.
Harry, you are revealing things I TOLD YOU, some of which I posted on open social media outlets. There is nothing you personally have dug up. You are simply repeating things i myself spoke of.
Those who have used this site for a long time (and not just come here to promote a blog and try to hijack an election even though they profess to not vote), will be aware I have been posting on here for YEARS now using a different name.
You may also remember, (MK1, Marky etc should be able to back me up here) that using that other name I openly spoke about KNOWING the a certain Manor House councillor was vulnerable in 2014. I said this as far back as early 2012. People laughed at the time because said councillor was occupying one of the safest Labour seats in the town.
Well look where we are now... it's 2014 and there appears to be an army of one mans facebook followers (most of whom NEVER vote) chomping at the bit to get to the ballot box in Owton Manor.
Looks like whoever is claiming to be revealing some sort of 'exclusive' is about 2 years behind the wave.
Or maybe this clears up Riddle's problem with being open and honest.
Another of his messages to me.
"Personally I think he (Derek) will run as any indy anyway so that's why I'm trying to get him to run under our banner."
Mmmmm. Not quite the illusion he was trying to paint earlier.
Again no revelation here Harry. Derek's name was thrown into the mix during the Owton Manor by-election. Where PHF polled around 200 votes.
Given Derek's facebook following his friends voting for him PLUS the potential of a PHF voting base of a couple of hundred could seriously upset the apple cart in a Labour strong hold.
Harry, do you not think Labour and others are playing games to try to win wards in whatever way they can? Look at the likely Labour candidate for Hart.
Absolute cannon fodder to ensure Fisher gets enough of his own followers votes to stay in.
There is no big journalistic revelation here. I alluded to the idea of 'gravy' taking the manor 2 years ago.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 24, 2014, 09: AM
Michael Kenny (glad we cleared that up) i have about 400 FB friends. 90% of them I've never met. Thousands read my blog. Never met 90% of them.
I'm totally honest.
Yeah totally!
Now how about this.
Have you had any pm/facebook/twitter contact. with him?
Have you and he had any form of contact on any medium anywhere even in Morse Code. I.E. Contact on any platform other than speech/direct vision where you have exchanged thoughts/messages/hopes/dreams/insults or plans on a one-to-one basis?
A private exchange other than on a public platform?
Yes. We've exchanged a few messages.
That's it.
What strikes me as VERY odd, is why is a person(s) who is so opposed to the whole idea of voting in the first place so bothered about which way people actually intend to vote?
Surely if you're in the 'dont vote at all' camp, that means you are completely indifferent to the whole system anyway?
Thus you don't care about who gets the votes because you don't support he entire existing democratic paradigm.
Correct?
So why do you care in people vote PHF, Drummond, Labour, UKIP, big gravy or whoever?
Nice swerve Riddler. Avoiding the facts as usal.
BTW Riddler, didnt you ask for information on how to ignore me?
Quote from: DRiddle on March 24, 2014, 09: AM
So why do you care in people vote PHF, Drummond, Labour, UKIP, big gravy or whoever?
He probably remembers the time he got Drummond elected. Harry put the Mail at his disposal and what a good move that was!.
I bet he just wants to help you avoid the same terrible 'Frankenstein' mistake he made!
One can only marvel at the courageous investigative reporter who took this down from Drummond and neglected to ask a simple question like 'say that in Spanish then'!
The 28-year-old, who lives in Sandbanks Drive, Hart Station, admitted at the outset that the idea to run for office was just a gag between mates.
But he added: "Out of an acorn grew an oak tree. Once we actually really sat down and thought about it, three or four of us, we started talking to more people and more people and everyone just encouraged me and we thought yeh, we'll go for it.
"This is what we can do, we can actually change the face of politics."
So is he qualified to do the job?
After leaving the town's Henry Smith Comprehensive School, Mr Drummond sat three A levels at Hartlepool Sixth Form College.
He went on to study an HND in business and finance with administration and languages at University College Salford before working for four years as a waiter on cruise ships, a job that took him to some 80 or 90 countries.
He speaks fluent French and Spanish and most recently worked as a credit controller for a mobile phone company at Hartlepool's Garland's Call Centre - a job he will now be quitting.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/i-will-do-a-good-job-1-991178
Quote from: mk1 on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
Quote from: Pwilson on March 24, 2014, 08: AM
I'm leaving personality aside. I don't care what someone has done outside of politics what makes us human is the ability to make mistakes.
Hang on. You claim Bilton has done something outside politics which bars him from office. But things other do outside politics is ok with you?
Ok clear as mud.
I haven't said anything of the sort, I don't mind debate but where have I claimed Bilton has done anything to bar him from office?
Quote from: Pwilson on March 24, 2014, 10: AM
I haven't said anything of the sort, I don't mind debate but where have I claimed Bilton has done anything to bar him from office?
I mixed you up with Monty and conflated your posts. Too much aggro about..........
MK1,
I told Harry I was writing a blog post about PHF and offered him the option of seeing it before publication because I was mentioning him in it. Offered the same courtesy to Paul Hanson.
Harry turned me down flat and told me he didn't want to see it.
Dave Riddle: Can you tell me the exact reason why Paul Hanson was banned from the PHF site?
While you're on, please also give me the exact reason why I was banned and whose decision both bannings were. A straight answer would be good. I'm not after being reinstated here, neither is Paul, nor would I challenge your right to ban me, it's your page. I'm just after some clarity and openess on PHF decision making as per the loose commitments made in the Facebook threads I have highlighted in my blog.
Blackwood still thinks that he's editing The Mail and that everyone owes him an explanation; he isn't and they don't. He doesn't even live in the town and campaigns to encourage everyone not to vote without offering any description of what he would put in place if we all followed his advice.
He rabbits on about people using usernames when this site has always allowed people to do so. He suggests that the use of a username implies dishonesty claiming that using his own name is evidence that he is the opposite. He is always right and researches everything. So far he has falsely claimed that Riddle had resigned from PHF and has emphatically 'outed' mk1 twice as two quite different people. So much for research.
I suggest that Blackwood's reasons for using his own name are self-evident. When the need is to convince others how important you still are, how is it possible to do so through the use of a pseudonym? In Blackwood's case, using his own name is essential otherwise how would everyone know just how important he is?
So the man won't vote; wouldn't stand himself (even if he could) and contents himself with slagging off anyone else that might. In short, he has nothing to offer but his bilious and copious opinions. He thought he was important as Editor of The Mail and mistakenly thinks he is still important now. He isn't.
So do I side with a man so enveloped with bitterness that he stands ready to unleash his venom on anyone who disagrees with him or with someone who dares to raise his head above the parapet in order to at least try and make things better for the town?
Not much of a contest, really.
He also claims to be honest which is a lie, he's been using the non-de-plume DOWAGER on here for months and has the cheek to OUT MK1 who for :-[ over the last 5 years has been the backbone of this site despite the weak admin.
The way I see it is PHF set up a facebook calling on the 70% of people in the town who DON'T vote .... to get out and vote.
The page suffered an attempted hijacking by a load of 'don't vote it only encourages them' people, intent on having there say on a forum that was nothing to do with them.
If you want to express those opinions (don't vote etc.) go and set up your own facebook page and invite people to support you.
Don't try to inflitrate a page of 'go out and vote' people then start kicking off when you get banned.
Anti-capitaslist would likely be banned from a bankers website.
Homophobic people would likley be banned from an LGBT site.
Why are people looking for some sort of 'revelationaty explanation' as to why people in the 'don't vote' camp were banned from a site encouraging people to vote?
Bizarre.
Only in Hartlepool...
Not4Me & Great Dictator,
Now I'm new to this site, but having moderated a sports related website and message board for a number of years I understand why people use pseudonyms on this sort of forum. However do believe that if you're going to direct criticism directly at someone then it's only fair you also make your identity known to the target of your criticism. If you do that by some sort of private message to protect your pseudonym, then fine but if you're brave enough to do it publicly then that is to be applauded.
Are the same principles not adopted here? This is an honest question because I'm unsure of the etiquette on this particular site. I purposely set up my login with my name included here, purely and simply because I wanted to take up an issue with Dave Riddle that I had tried to do publicly on his own forum.
Dave,
Thank you for the answer. All along I made it clear my current position on voting. My initial reactions were always, "I don't vote but I'm interested in what you have to say".
In two of my posts directed at Derek Bilton I reminded him and by extension PHF that what I was asking was for anyone standing to sell voting to me. Nobody rose to that challenge, I offered my opinion that I was no longer interested and to be fair the blog was my parting shot. I probably wouldn't have commented again on the PHF page but I would have liked the opportunity to remain to see if anyone associated with PHF could have piqued my interest in voting. The concept you originally had was almost there.
However all you have done is stifle honest and open debate. If your argument to vote and vote for a PHF candidate was adequate enough you should have had enough courage in your convictions to let my blog stand and defend your position or simply denounce it as the ramblings of someone who also has no ideas for the town. Instead you chose, in my view, a cowards way out. (Assuming it was your decision).
Was it your decision to ban Paul and myself by the way?
Welcome to our site James, HTH has been just fine for 11 years until Mr.Blackwood arrived last month and upset the applecart, many people like MK1 and myself have good reason not to publish our names. I am related to a senior council officer and wouldn't want to influence debate on this site. We welcome your contribution here.
This is the most bizarre and pointless thread in the history of HTH.... and there have been a few.
Personally, I feel myself and many others fought very hard to move this forum away from being a sounding board for disgruntled UKIP voters. It took a while, but we did it and we now, generally speaking have balanced debate on this site..... until last week of course.
Now all of a sudden we have become a therapy vehicle for maladjusted cyclists...
12 pages and what's been achieved....?
Quote from: The Great Dictator on March 24, 2014, 12: PM
He also claims to be honest which is a lie, he's been using the non-de-plume DOWAGER on here for months and has the cheek to OUT MK1 who for :-[ over the last 5 years has been the backbone of this site despite the weak admin.
An absolute lie. I'm happy for moderator to check if that is possible. I only post with my own name.
Well I've got an answer out of you and been called maladjusted. You're probably right on the maladjusted score because most cyclists don't go for a swim before they ride and a run afterwards. I'm obviously a bit mental. Oh and my blog has got a few more views.
Just finally, was it your decision to ban Paul and myself?
My apologies James....
Now all of a sudden we have become a therapy vehicle for maladjusted triathletes...
This thread appears to have run it's course ladies and gentlemen ( and you Harry), jamescampbell78 are you really wanting to be converted and begin to vote or just looking to stir it up a bit.
As local elections near it becomes so farcical how people try to smear, belittle and out others, for what?
If you have no intention of voting Jimmy78 why begin asking the questions you have and try to cause s**t.
Your long distance relationship with Mr Blackwood via whatever means is doing you no good son, you are beginning to sound like his mini me!! ( and that's not good )
Let's just wait until the elections and see what happens, if you have no interest - shut up!!
Harry you haven't quite achieved what you set out to do by coming on this site, and before you ask I haven't got a clue what it is, but you most definately have a hidden agenda ;)
If people decide to post under a pseudonym so what, I do and will continue to do so, I also post under other names on here as it suits me, so all the bull about honesty and integrity and hiding behind names doesn't wash. I don't lie or hide the truth I just decide to keep my identity to myself, and should be respected as it's my choice.
C'mon folks let's get back to what it's all about, saving this town from the disastrous path it's currently on!!
I will say the same as I've said on the PHF site, I believe the quote is in my blog post somewhere too.
I will vote as soon as somebody convinces me that electing them will lead to real change for the better.
Genuinely, I'm always open to new ideas but I'm cynical, call it a lot of exposure to the wrong type of people.
By the way Dave, you didn't answer my question about who made the decision to block Paul and I.
I also think, given that I've only made a limited number of posts on here people might wait and see if I post on other topics and what I post before they make character judgements about me. Unless of course you already know me?
I hope none of the posters on this thread mind.......... But i read through the whole thing & recorded it on my voice recorder, I have decided to Market the result as a guaranteed "Cure For Insomnia"
I have arranged to give 10% of any profits to "Ste He Looks Ever So Handsome In His Ceremonial Robes Akers Belchers" Mayoral Charity.
Ok i was telling Lies................ about the Charity
Quote from: fred c on March 24, 2014, 07: PM
I hope none of the posters on this thread mind.......... But i read through the whole thing & recorded it on my voice recorder, I have decided to Market the result as a guaranteed "Cure For Insomnia"
About the only thing it is good for..........
Quote from: lifelonglabourvoter on March 19, 2014, 04: PM
Harry did that really happen? Did you win a court case? Honesly, you should mention it more often. There's at least 3 people left in Hartlepool who don't already know. Idiot.
This is David Riddle in case anyone was wondering.
Harry,
Since we're on a new page, has Mr Riddle answered my question about who made the decision to delete and block Paul Hanson from the PHF site and who made the decision to delete and block me?
I'm a bit maladjusted so I can't be bothered to look myself.
pop on here every week or so .. strangely today, I see someone thinks I am Mr Blackwood .. he has denied it, and so do I ..... I am Dowager .. nothing to do with him, thank you very much, over and out
Thank you Dowager. I owe you a pint and I'll be more than happy to buy you one.
I ALWAYS tell the truth. Why people have a problem with that is beyond me.
Quote from: Jamescampbell78 on March 24, 2014, 08: PM
Harry,
Since we're on a new page, has Mr Riddle answered my question about who made the decision to delete and block Paul Hanson from the PHF site and who made the decision to delete and block me?
I'm a bit maladjusted so I can't be bothered to look myself.
In a word. No.
He hasn't answered any of mine either.
Quote from: lifelonglabourvoter on March 20, 2014, 08: AM
Harry, i'll come clean. I'm Steve Close.
No. You are David Riddle. I claim my £5. FACT.
Gentlemen, last time i looked i wasn't on trial here.
There's an election in about 8 weeks. No candidates have been revelaved yet, even those expected to defend there current seats.
I really don't know what makes Lance Armstrong and his pals think they have a God given right to demand answers.
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 25, 2014, 07: AM
In a word. No.
He hasn't answered any of mine either.
Harry has not answered my questions either.
We have no right to answers. But I think the electorate deserves a degree of integrity from would be politicians. IMHO you have shown none. But I'm more than happy to let the public decide.
What about the Lifelonglabourvoter thing? You seem to have ducked that one.
Quote from: mk1 on March 25, 2014, 08: AM
Quote from: HarryBlackwood on March 25, 2014, 07: AM
In a word. No.
He hasn't answered any of mine either.
Harry has not answered my questions either.
Michael Kenny. What haven't I answered?
It seems Harry has ducked that one.
Not at all Michael Kenny. Ask away. I'll do my best.
Despite the fact that various posters on here have tried to explain the realities of electoral campaigning,HB and others continue to bombard Driddle with the same old questions despite knowing that they will not get answers.
One can only assume that this is a Labour plot to denigrate their greatest opposer cum opposition.
Wait and see. Can we get back to rational debate, please.
Just for the record, I am not a member of PHF.
More waffle. You must have the attention span of a goldfish to completley forget the questions I asked you earlier in the thread.
You asked me, Hartlepudlion?
Must have missed them. Would you care to repeat them here?
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on March 25, 2014, 09: AM
One can only assume that this is a Labour plot to denigrate their greatest opposer cum opposition.
It is much simpler than that. Ego is the driver. Once you get in Harry's cross-hairs then he stalks you relentlessly. He just likes a fight.
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on March 25, 2014, 09: AM
You asked me, Hartlepudlion?
Must have missed them. Would you care to repeat them here?
I think I insulted the goldfish ......................
I can deal with being maladjusted but being associated in any way with a liar and cheat like Armstrong is very offensive. You might as well have called me a politician.
First of all, apologies to anyone who's nipples are being bored off by me here.
David Riddle,
I've now calmed from the Lance Armstrong comment so I'll respond to your question.
I'm not demanding an answer, I'm requesting one as politely as possible.
I believe you owe me an answer for the following reasons:
1. I was banned from the PHF site moderated by, amongst others yourself.
2. On that site you made a commitment to transparency in decision making.
3. You and other PHF members have a stated an interest in putting yourselves forward for public office, therefore it's in your interest to answer questions from the public so that they can make a judgement on whether they feel you and other PHF members are suitable candidates to vote for.
Now please can you tell me who made the decision to ban my friend Paul Hanson and myself?
Yes, No and Don't want to say are all valid options here.
If it wasn't you then I won't ask further questions of you because you clearly weren't the decision maker. If it was you, I won't ask further questions because I have my answer.
It's fairly simple. Just please don't ignore the question.
Surely the point of an organisation's Facebook page is to promote the aims of the organisation and not to give the oxygen of publicity to those who would do the opposite. I've never looked at the PHF Facebook page but I understand its purpose which you clearly don't. If you want to criticise PHF then there are plenty of other open forums like this one where you can do so. At least PHF have a Facebook page. Try finding the local labour group's Facebook page or their website for that matter.
I'm paraphrasing a bit but PHF stated their aim as to engage with the people of Hartlepool to find out what they wanted and to get those who currently don't vote to vote for a PHF candidate so that they can break the current Labour cartel.
I am a long term non voter. I asked PHF some questions to ascertain whether I deemed them worthy of my vote.
They ducked and sidestepped them, they deleted comments and contradicted themselves. They banned a friend of mine for asking a simple question.
I didn't openly criticise PHF until I posted my blog. I tagged them in it and posted it on their page to give them an opportunity to answer it.
They chose to delete it. Their page, their choice. I just wanted to know the thinking behind it and whose thinking it was. If they don't want to tell me then fine, just don't ignore the question. That's what Iain Wright does as an MP and what many of the Labour councillors they want out do.
Get where I'm coming from here?
Quote from: Jamescampbell78 on March 25, 2014, 02: PM
. I asked PHF some questions to ascertain whether I deemed them worthy of my vote.
If you acted like you do here then I am not surprised you got the boot. Hectoring people and
demanding they answer your questions over and over and over again is not the best way to endear yourself and maybe you should just accept the fact they declined your offer of support and find yourself a party that promotes your type of behaviour. I suggest you try UKIP.
Yeah, Michael Kenny. You tell him not the way to act at all James.
Take a leaf out of Kenny's book and use a false name.
Then abuse people like he does.
After that you can find some personal axe to grind like he does with me.
Or you could do like you've done up to now. Stay polite and ask simple questions.
Or maybe do as Riddle does and use three different user names. That way you can hang up on people on your own.
. . . . or you could
- claim that Riddle has resigned as Chairman of PHF when he has not
- claim that some guy is running as a candidate for PHF when he isn't even a member
- claim several different people on here are all Stephen Close without even knowing if said Mr Close reads this forum
Remember everyone, Harry always speaks the truth and researches everything thoroughly ;D ;D
Quote from: not4me on March 25, 2014, 04: PM
Remember everyone, Harry always speaks the truth and researches everything thoroughly
Harry has a Mr Man who gives him the inside story on the regular posters here.
Not4me. Bugger. You're new to me. I'll have to find out who you are now.
As for your points.
1. Said I'd been told he'd resigned and asked for clarification.
2. Said he was standing for PHF based on information given to me by Riddle.
3. Got one wrong re Close and immediately apologised.
Glad to put you straight.
There are lots of out of work journalists out there, not all play it like Arry. Some actually look for real stories.
Here's an example of investigative journalism by a freelance and a real nice guy; http://www.talesfromthetownhall.co.uk/
The wind whistles... a door creaks.... tumbleweeds roll by,,.......................
Quote from: Riddler5 on March 25, 2014, 04: PM
The wind whistles... a door creaks.... tumbleweeds roll by,,.......................
Ha ha.......Perfect description of Hartlepool in a few years........
Once all the services and jobs have departed to Middlesborough and Stockton.........
Quote from: Lord Elpus on March 25, 2014, 04: PM
There are lots of out of work journalists out there, not all play it like Arry. Some actually look for real stories.
Here's an example of investigative journalism by a freelance and a real nice guy; http://www.talesfromthetownhall.co.uk/
Cheers Geoff. Wrong though.
I was talking to him the other day. He's retired.
So Campbell and co have also been blocked and deleted from PHF asking simple questions? There seems to be a trend going on; Questions = Blocked. Is this about right Ridders.
Quote from: monty767 on March 25, 2014, 05: PM
There seems to be a trend going on
There is indeed a trend. Note the recent influx of posters who seem to believe they have a god-given right to ask a question and demand it be answered at once or else!
Probably just a coincidence...................
Mk, Did I just cross a line somewhere? Best if I keep my trap shut eh. Looks like some clear divisions and bad blood.
David Riddle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCj_C-Yb3xI&sns=em
OK. Anyone who has been using this forum for a few years will know that one of the cardinal rules of this forum is not to bore the administrators and I'm afraid we've now crossed that line. This thread in now locked and if similar threads/posts appear they will be deleted