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Title: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 10: AM
You can't help but wonder if the local labour party are asleep or just in a state of denial. From the fake savings figures claimed on their referendum leaflet, through Ged Hall's now infamous phone call and the ban on the public asking questions at council meetings, the Brash/Hargreaves business and the never ending defence of a thoroughly dishonest woman . . .

Akers-Belcher leadership has been calamitous for Labour.

If Christopher Akers-Belcher is a Leader then maybe Jedward weren't so obnoxious after all.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 02: PM
Judge Buchanan is a councillor?
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: Hazysky on June 29, 2013, 02: PM
Quote from: steveL on June 29, 2013, 02: PM
Judge Buchanan is a councillor?

;D
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: Inspector Knacker on June 29, 2013, 03: PM
We've heard of Lions led by Donkeys....  or in this case,  Donkeys led by Donkreys ....?
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: fred c on June 29, 2013, 04: PM
With these 2 you have to wonder, Who is Leading Whom & by What...... what a "Pair"
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: Brown sword on June 29, 2013, 06: PM
I would imagine that the likes of Carl, Chris Simmons, Robbie etc must be a tad embarrassed about all the bad things going on at the hands of Hall, the Akers-Belchers, Wilcox and potentially Cranney who many suspect is her decision maker.
Title: Re: Have the sheep flocked together in secret?
Post by: Lord Elpus on June 29, 2013, 06: PM
Quote from: perseus on June 29, 2013, 06: PM
Very interesting this. Very interesting. Received a text a little earlier from a contact who keeps a discreet eye on the local political goings on.

Anyway, there appears to have been a meeting today in a pub out of town, of various members of a certain local group. Interestingly, it seemed to be just rank and file members. No leaders were present. (Not that they actually are any real leaders of the group in question, but still).

Leadership challenge?  ::)

I bet there's a good few saying come back Jonathan and Pamela.  The H'ackers leadership could loose some vulnerable Councillors their seats next May/June.  I bet Richardson was there plotting, nowt he loves better than stabbing leaders in the back (not in the sexual sense, in fact IMHO his sexuality is the only straight thing about him).

The H'ackers and Mad Dog are away at a LGA conference this weekend.

I get the impression Labour North have had enough and Shighty would be only glad too happy see the H'ackers downfall, cos he knows CAB is after a safe Labour seat, his.  Ohh err missus.
Title: Re: Have the sheep flocked together in secret?
Post by: norfolkngoode on June 29, 2013, 06: PM
Quote from: perseus on June 29, 2013, 06: PM

Leadership challenge?  ::)

Hopefully Perseus.

Someone needs to get a grip of this lot.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: stokoe on June 29, 2013, 06: PM
Mind you did not see GED.wood in corals today,last week he was betting on the
Dogs just after 10 am.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: Lord Elpus on June 29, 2013, 07: PM
Gedall was at St Matthews hall 111 year celebration this afternoon, him and John Lauderdale were very close, sharing a pot of tea. 
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 07: PM
Not to put a dampener on things, but if what Perseus says is true then I doubt if we are talking about anything more than a switch in the Leader and, to be honest, that just won't do. It would amount to no more than changing the curtains in a room where the furniture is rotten.

Those who have been following this saga will know that the awarding of the connected care contract throws a much wider net than just the obnoxious CAB. In all, we have no fewer than 7 councillors playing a significant part in the whole rotten business from the fiddlers to the bullies.

I can see a change in Leader being used, complete with Mail fanfare, to  declare that everything is now OK in the gulag but that would be very far from the truth.

Cranney, for example, was up to his tricks under CAB, Simmons, Payne, Brash and Waller and long before that using James (and non-councillors) as his patsy front men.

A whole new way of allocating public money is needed, one which recognises the good guys (of which there are many) and keeps both self and party interest out of it.

Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2013, 07: PM
Wilcox will be secretly  approached by the 2 fatties. She will be told it is all over for her but if she goes quietly and does not implicate the fatties they will continue her funding under the cover of the usual bollox about  'measures taken to ensure it does not happen again'. They will have to put  someone over her but she will have the nod for her and her  puppet master to keep a hand in the till and continue  employing the  extended family. The alternative will be a complete end to council funding so Angie/Cranny really have no choice but to take the deal.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 07: PM
If Wilcox and the Trustees haven't all gone within 7 days then frankly, I would stop all further money. You cannot keep handing over money to an organisation run by someone who a judge has labelled as 'dishonest' and even politically that would be suicide.

I would send in someone who can tear through the accounts with a tooth comb - and I know just the person to do it.

Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 08: PM
Quote from: Lord Elpus on June 29, 2013, 07: PM
Gedall was at St Matthews hall 111 year celebration this afternoon, him and John Lauderdale were very close, sharing a pot of tea.

Was he there in his private capacity? Apparently, you know he's acting in a private capacity when he introduces himself as Councillor Hall.  :o
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: misinformed on June 29, 2013, 08: PM
considering 2 plus AW are councillors , the rest of the committee will do what ever they are told to do.. considering SAB told them all in a meeting not so long back that all is ok, and not to believe anything they hear outside the room, as I mean come on only the truth is told in that committee room.................... thing is now will AW go quietly and do the right thing or she will do what any other corrupt councillor does and take everyone she can down with her... hence why else is CAB, SAB and the rest of the crowd still saying the rather laughable saying of everything is OK........ ;)
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on June 29, 2013, 08: PM
well.....considering Wilcox is saying that she didn't mislead anyone and still says she has never paid anyone less than the minimum wage, it's hard to figure what it is that is going through her head - other than fresh air.

I doubt if I'm the first one to notice that the woman seems to occupy a different reality to the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: fred c on June 29, 2013, 08: PM
The only way to put a stop to whats been going on at MRA is to let it go to the wall "Immediately" the unfortunate consequences may be job losses for the people who have actually been doing a good job, but by shutting down MRA it will end the nepotistical dynasty that has been ripping the people of Hartlepool off for years.

However the problems aren`t confined to wilcox & MRA, they are endemic amongst the group of self serving councillors who believe they have the right to abuse the system & the ratepayers of Hartepool.

Thanks to HTH we are all aware of who they are, but they have become so self confident in their own infallibility, they are now out of control.............

But not for much longer, "The Dear Leader" will not be able to come up with enough excuses for whats been going on with MRA & Who Cares (N/E), the end is nigh for counillors being involved with or employed by grant funded organisations.

How for instance will "The Consort" explain his lack of action as a trustee of MRA, & how will his other half explain the blatant lie he gave in full council about the Charity Commision making a "Mistake" in the MRA accounts saga.

This is just the start of the sh*t storm that is coming, Tom Mitchell still has to make his report & i don`t think he will be too impressed by what "The Mob" have been up to
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: marky on June 29, 2013, 08: PM

"If we have learned anything from this, it is that true leadership is a skill which requires something more than Calvin Klein underpants and a copious supply of hair gel."

;D ;D  - luv it!


http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/column%20black%20cat%20bye%20bye%20george.htm (http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/column%20black%20cat%20bye%20bye%20george.htm)
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: for fawkes sake on June 30, 2013, 11: PM
This should prove to be an interesting week. By the end of it, we will have a good idea of how things are likely to unfold over the next year or two.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: stokoe on July 02, 2013, 02: PM
Quote from: perseus on July 02, 2013, 12: PM
QuoteC Akers-Belcher‏@AkersBelcherProtected account1h
At LGA conference Manchester (Labour Group) let the fun begin

Nice to see that in the biggest firestorm to hit the local Labour group for years, the dear leader is in Manchester having fun at our expense.

dont know if it will be the biggest firestorm perseus,depends if he goes to canal street on his own.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: The Great Dictator on July 02, 2013, 06: PM
Councillor Dog Breath should be suspended next..
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: mk1 on July 03, 2013, 07: PM
Ged is  saying they should rename Jackson's Landing as Ackers-Belcher Quee  Pier.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: mk1 on July 04, 2013, 10: PM
It is a desperate attempt by a dying  politician to  win votes.
He believes he can do a Drummond and buy the votes of the  Hartlepool supporters.
Expect a front page Mail splash as he and his bloated partner buy season tickets for Pools.
I wonder if he knows what they say about him and his partner over at the bunker.......
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on July 04, 2013, 11: PM
. . . well the A-Bs are certainly 'in it' . They just haven't realised what 'it' is yet.

CABs support is wafer thin at the moment - actually it always has been. He's surviving because any jostling within the group will let everyone in town know that they are falling apart - safety in numbers and all that - so circle the wagons and stay schtum. I don't think much will happen locally with the sheep but the Grim Reaper is coming soon enough and he will come with a Geordie accent.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: brassed off monkey on July 04, 2013, 11: PM
With Steven supporting him from one side & Gerard supporting him from the other, no wonder he doesn`t know if he is coming or going.

A Jumped Up Benefit Clerk, I wonder who coined that particular term for "The Dear Leader" ?
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: grim reaper on July 04, 2013, 11: PM
At the risk of boring readers (both T.H.P. and HBC), I have mentioned on a number of occasions that it isn't simply wilcox, akers-belchers, Beck & Hall;
it is the whole goddamn system of senior council officers and ALL the councillors of HBC.  >:(

For YEARS everyone kept schtum, holding onto their seats and money;
giving cllrs all they wanted so that one day...quid pro quo...when their salaries/positions came up for renewal they were 'in favour' with the councillors.

What it really needs is an independent police inquiry into the whole stinking mess....trouble is..we can't even trust Cleveland police!!!!   :o
Especially now it is overseen by a labour lackey. 

As 'Littlejohn' would say; 'We're all going to Hell in a handcart'.  :(
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: steveL on July 05, 2013, 08: AM
"For YEARS everyone kept schtum, holding onto their seats and money;
giving Cllrs all they wanted so that one day...quid pro quo...when their salaries/positions came up for renewal they were 'in favour' with the councillors. "


There are two sides to this coin. Yes there are some council officers in bed with Labour hoping that it will do their careers/pensions some good in the long-run. I've heard it said that even when the Lib-Dem/Conservatives managed to gain power 10 or so years ago, the lack of cooperation they received from the administration was disgraceful. The logic being that it was only a temporary blip and Labour would be back in power in due course so best take the long view and stay safe.

The other side of the coin, which I think is the more prevalent, is the amount of bullying that goes on by Councillors, especially towards more junior officers. In this case, you could find your way to well-deserved promotion blocked. For bullying, read constant harassment, telephone calls and even texting.

HBC is very weak on protecting its junior officers from such bullying.
Title: Re: The Calamitous Leadership of Akers-Belcher
Post by: The Great Dictator on July 05, 2013, 10: AM
The good thing to come out of this is now that Drummond is out of the way it exposes how weak and defensive Labour and the Belchers are...These clowns can now be easily removed..