New Political Group in Hartlepool

Started by Lucy Lass-Tick, March 02, 2019, 12: PM

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Lucy Lass-Tick

Six councillors (formerly part of Hartlepool Independent Group) have formally registered with the Electoral Commission and are now a fully fledged political party. Word has it that other factions planned to launch multiple quasi-independents with a view to splitting the vote. Being registered as a party will clarify who's who & prevent 'confusion'...

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/hartlepool-independent-councillors-launch-new-union-to-stand-out-in-elections-1-9624331

jawsbbc

Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on March 02, 2019, 12: PM
Six councillors (formerly part of Hartlepool Independent Group) have formally registered with the Electoral Commission and are now a fully fledged political party. Word has it that other factions planned to launch multiple quasi-independents with a view to splitting the vote. Being registered as a party will clarify who's who & prevent 'confusion'...

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/hartlepool-independent-councillors-launch-new-union-to-stand-out-in-elections-1-9624331
prime example  april 2018
Foggy Furze
Ann Marshall         Labour
Andrew Martin-Wells      Conservative
Darren Price                  Independent
Michael James Ritchie   Greens
Andrew Wildberg               Independent= kevin cranneys cousin  ring any bells ??

https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/07793699-opportunities-from-community-action-community-interest-company


http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=519172&subid=0


Inspector Knacker

List of new independent Party's?

Mock Independent Oppotrtunist Party.
The Pretend-Independent Look at Us Party
The Dependent Independent Labour Party
The umbilical PretendepenentsIndependents.
The Clouding the Water Independents.
The Promise you anything Deflection Party.
The Independent but vote Lab/Tor Party.
The Independent Decoy Party.
The I'm really an Independent, oh no I'm not Party.
The Incoherent Party
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

fred c

I see that the usual coven of Pixies have been out in force on the Mails fb page slagging of the Indie Party........

Would any of them like to tell us where they have been over the 6 years or so the SCABAL have been 'governing' the town, I don't recollect any of them attending council meetings, or asking questions of their Labour representatives.

Did any of them call for action to be taken against SAB when he was sacked for GIM, did any of them question the abandonment of the £1.5 million town plan, or any of the other multi million pound clusterucks that were done in labours name. ??????

Inspector Knacker

Like all political nodding dogs, they're told what do and do it.
They ask no questions.
Thinking rationally hurts.
A mindless minion is a happy minion.
Tickle belly terriers yapping at the moon.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

UnknownUser

All p¡$$ING in the same pot, independently a party, eh how's that work? One of them on record as stating its a career for him, another who changed political parties more times thn I've had hot dinners.

Not one of them are any different from the parasitic bunch currently running the council and if you think any differently you must be deluded.

Labmob or the opportunists, there's no real opposition, they'd all take the ounce of silver I have no doubts about that if they ever got into any real position of power... Prove me wrong.
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

Lucy Lass-Tick

Really don't understand why those who're so faithful to traditional party politics fail to understand the independent sector. Where there's no whip, those who operate under the party umbrella are free to vote/act according to the needs of their individual wards. Simple as that.

fred c

Who amongst the Independent councillors has had more parties than UnknownUser ? I am aware that Shane Moore was formerly a member of the Tory party, but if UnknownUser is referring to Councillor Moore......He must be a very skinny person.

As for the "Not one of them are any different from the parasitic bunch currently running the council and if you think any differently you must be deluded" Comment.......I am certainly not deluded, i am however pragmatic.......Non of them bear any resemblance to those labour councillors who are currently running the town and anyone who thinks so is definitely 'Deluded'


seaton

Of our current Coucillors who have ever been in responsible for managing a budget running into millions of pounds every year. One is a failed business man, some of the rest have been living on Benefits for years, one is a proven liar sacked for industrial misconduct then failing to turn up at the appeal.
For me the new party can't be any worse than the current incumbents in the Council, give them the opportunity.

jeffh

Quote from: fred c on March 04, 2019, 03: PM
Who amongst the Independent councillors has had more parties than UnknownUser ? I am aware that Shane Moore was formerly a member of the Tory party, but if UnknownUser is referring to Councillor Moore......He must be a very skinny person.

As for the "Not one of them are any different from the parasitic bunch currently running the council and if you think any differently you must be deluded" Comment.......I am certainly not deluded, i am however pragmatic.......Non of them bear any resemblance to those labour councillors who are currently running the town and anyone who thinks so is definitely 'Deluded'

Bang on Fred - my main concern is in Labour claiming they are the majority party after the May elections.  There is a real chance that 3 Labour seats will go Independent - Moneybags, Doc Pothole and Robinson.
That will see the split as -
Labour - 15
Independent - 15
Conservatives - 3
If all the Independents don't combine to form the new Union then Labour will argue that they are still the majority party with the Independent Union having 5, Conservatives 3 plus 10 individuals - so no change.  Looking on the bright side in the leadership challenge - if they vote the same as last time and Barclay, Belcher and Truman are replaced by anti SCABs then it's goodbye Hartlepool - hello Brighton.
For - 7
CAB
SAB
Cranney
James
Thomas
Cook
Marshall

Against - 8
Hunter
Brown
Richardson
3 new Labour
Harrison
Hamilton



Inspector Knacker

Quote from: UnknownUser on March 04, 2019, 10: AM


Not one of them are any different from the parasitic bunch currently running the council and if you think any differently you must be deluded.

Labmob or the opportunists, there's no real opposition, they'd all take the ounce of silver I have no doubts about that if they ever got into any real position of power... Prove me wrong.
So are you actually advocating we stick with the same old shower, really? Now I like joke with the best of them. It is a joke isn't it?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

UnknownUser

Quote from: fred c on March 04, 2019, 03: PM
Non of them bear any resemblance to those labour councillors who are currently running the town

Time will tell...
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

UnknownUser

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on March 04, 2019, 07: PM
Quote from: UnknownUser on March 04, 2019, 10: AM


Not one of them are any different from the parasitic bunch currently running the council and if you think any differently you must be deluded.

Labmob or the opportunists, there's no real opposition, they'd all take the ounce of silver I have no doubts about that if they ever got into any real position of power... Prove me wrong.
So are you actually advocating we stick with the same old shower, really? Now I like joke with the best of them. It is a joke isn't it?
Certainly not advocating that, I would implore most that a council with no overall control is the only option.
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

Inspector Knacker

On what do you base that reasoning?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

UnknownUser

Quote from: fred c on March 04, 2019, 03: PM
Who amongst the Independent councillors has had more parties than UnknownUser ? I am aware that Shane Moore was formerly a member of the Tory party,
Conservatives, United Kingdom Independence Party, and now formerly of the Independent Group.

Am I right?
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand