the rifty is it a charity or is it not ?

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jawsbbc

Quote from: kevplumb on September 07, 2018, 09: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on September 07, 2018, 08: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on September 07, 2018, 07: PM
at risk of getting my sorry a** kicked
it's a scam
all I can say is he is either a blithering idiot that thinks he will get away with it or he has a bl**dy good bent accountant

I do hope that you've evidence of either (or both).

evidence of him being a blithering idiot check the history
evidence of him having a bent accountant behave you pay them to cover your tracks
i was PM THIS THIS MORNING   THE RIFTY  it's not a charity or charitable organisation. It's a Community Group. A non-profit that is not set up under the Charitable Trust, CIO or Charitable Company legal structure.

It is a Unincorporated Association  which has no obligation to report to the Charity Commission.

Devils advocate

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Unincorporated associations

An 'unincorporated association' is an organisation set up through an agreement between a group of people who come together for a reason other than to make a profit (for example, a voluntary group or a sports club).

You don't need to register an unincorporated association, and it doesn't cost anything to set one up.

Individual members are personally responsible for any debts and contractual obligations.
If you make a profit

If the association does start trading and makes a profit, you'll need to pay Corporation Tax and file a Company Tax Return in the same way as a limited company.

https://www.gov.uk/unincorporated-associations

Inspector Knacker

#77
Does such a body need have to have registered members?
How many 'local youths' are recipients of their benevolence?
If you don't need to register, how can the inland revenue know if you even exist?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

kevplumb

Quote from: IKIf you don't need to register, how can the inland revenue know if you even exist?

that's the idea methinks  >:(
A councillor is an elected representative of their ward, not their political party!
Councils need communities but communities don't need councils
Party politics have no place in local goverment

Inspector Knacker

Does the community centre have a manager?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.


Disgruntled voter


WhatTheHeck

Quote from: Disgruntled voter on September 19, 2018, 08: PM
Did a child type it on his behalf?

Short answer, No, he did it all by himself.

The traits stand out, as can be seen by the poor grammar, missing words and poor structure, his style of writing is consistently poor and hasn't changed.

No relation to Whattheheck from the mail !

WhatTheHeck

So if the 'Rifty' is one of these, https://www.gov.uk/unincorporated-associations it would still need some form of accounting otherwise how would they know if there were in profit and liable for taxation.

I would also ask who monitor these organisations, or are they self regulating and therefore open to financial abuse by those running them ?
No relation to Whattheheck from the mail !

jawsbbc

Quote from: WhatTheHeck on September 20, 2018, 07: AM
So if the 'Rifty' is one of these, https://www.gov.uk/unincorporated-associations it would still need some form of accounting otherwise how would they know if there were in profit and liable for taxation.

I would also ask who monitor these organisations, or are they self regulating and therefore open to financial abuse by those running them ?
open to financial abuse by those running them ? nail head they know every trick in the book, do not forget a certain councilors freinds wife is a accountant just saying

Inspector Knacker

#85
We have a business and a 'youth project' based in the same building with a common connection. Which part of the building applies to which 'group' ?
Prior to the business opening in this particular location, could any ndividual apply to use these facilities to run a similar business in the same location?
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

UnknownUser

Date Awarded   Awarding Department                    Beneficiary                   Purpose of Grant                   "Amount£"
   
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
13/07/2017   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Summer Club    £3,670.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    
21/02/2018   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Christmas project  £1,600.00    
                                                                                                                                                                     £6,570.00    <--Total Funding 17/18
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed.

Ayn Rand

Lucy Lass-Tick

And that's before the Mayor's contribution ...

fred c

This particular businees / organisation really needs to be looked into, if Re-gen and Neighbourhoods Services are the council committees, why are they contributing public money to a councillors pet project....the same project that recently received £10,306 from Big Fibber Becks Mayors fund.

Only in Hartlepool and Only Under a LabMob Council

jawsbbc

Quote from: UnknownUser on September 24, 2018, 12: PM
Date Awarded   Awarding Department                    Beneficiary                   Purpose of Grant                   "Amount£"
   
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
19/05/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Job Club Contribution                    £500.00    
13/07/2017   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Summer Club    £3,670.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £25.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £50.00    
12/10/2017   Regen & Neighbourhood Services   The Rifty Youth Project   Coach Trip Kynren Contribution    £100.00    
21/02/2018   Public Health - Grant Funded           The Rifty Youth Project   Grant for Rifty Christmas project  £1,600.00    
                                                                                                                                                                     £6,570.00    <--Total Funding 17/18
interesting have you anything prior to 2017 unknownuser keep up the good work