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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: diSme on December 25, 2019, 10: PM

Title: Royal Fail
Post by: diSme on December 25, 2019, 10: PM
This happened to me, and a few neighbours....

https://vote-watch.co.uk/royal-fail-tory-bxp-campaign-leaflets-suspiciously-not-delivered-until-after-general-election/
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: pensionater on December 25, 2019, 10: PM
I must have received 5 from the Brexit Party.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 26, 2019, 09: AM
Quote from: diSme on December 25, 2019, 10: PM
This happened to me, and a few neighbours....

https://vote-watch.co.uk/royal-fail-tory-bxp-campaign-leaflets-suspiciously-not-delivered-until-after-general-election/

Me too.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Johnny Bongo on December 26, 2019, 11: AM
They should have delivered them by hand.  I seem to remember receiving two from the BP, but five from Labour.  Too late now!  However, as they say, 'We lost the battle but won the war!'
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: diSme on December 26, 2019, 12: PM
The election might be done and dusted, but this is still definitely something that warrants further investigation...
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 26, 2019, 03: PM
Well, there's a surprise.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Johnny Bongo on December 29, 2019, 04: PM
Just one disgruntled Royal Mail employee, who may know certain information and the cat's out of the bag!  Then what?  Is the non delivery BEFORE the election illegal?  Or the delivery AFTER the election illegal? If so, will there be a re-run of the Hartlepool election....and other towns where this has also happened?  Will it change Hartlepool's result? 
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: akarjl2 on December 29, 2019, 06: PM
We can only live in hope..
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 29, 2019, 07: PM
Background?  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50409317
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: mk1 on December 29, 2019, 08: PM
The same Royal Mail who recently admitted it has sent some of its employees to jail  because it refused to admit it used a flawed computer system?
Possibly the  largest number of innocent people ever  sent to jail and ruined simply to save the reputation of the employer?

https://www.betterretailing.com/symbol-group-wholesale/post-office/post-office-mistakes-settles-horizon-case-57m/

The Post Office has agreed to pay subpostmasters £57.75m to settle the high profile Horizon court case and admitted mistakes in the way it treated its partnered retailers.

More than 500 subpostmasters said they were wrongly accused of fraud or theft due to technical glitches with the Post Office's Horizon computer system. Some were imprisoned, others bankrupted and retailers previously told betterRetailing they had lost their businesses as a result of the disputes.

Discussing the resolution to the trial, Post Office chairman Tim Parker said: "We accept that, in the past, we got things wrong in our dealings with a number of postmasters .........................While the settlement relates to the first approximately 500 claimants, it is understood that another 500 former and current subpostmasters have come forward claiming they too have been wrongly accused and left out of pocket by the Post Office..................



Royal Mail have used every legal trick in the book to fight this case  spending millions in order to wear down and cow its victims.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_(IT_system)

That Royal Mail management is now complaining that someone else did not follow the rules?
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 29, 2019, 09: PM
Read/heard about that - shocking.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 30, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on December 29, 2019, 04: PM
Will it change Hartlepool's result?
I wouldn't expect anything to come of it.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 30, 2019, 11: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 30, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on December 29, 2019, 04: PM
Will it change Hartlepool's result?
I wouldn't expect anything to come of it.

Agree. And I can't see there being an activist in every sorting office who had the power to sit on such material on a grand scale, anyway.
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Johnny Bongo on December 30, 2019, 11: AM
Surely, some posties must know what's going on.  Is the 'late delivery' down the deliberate actions of individual posties, who are, let's say, politically motivated? Or, do they just deliver what they are given, no questions asked....even though they know 'there's a rabbit off'!   
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: mk1 on December 30, 2019, 01: PM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on December 30, 2019, 11: AM
even though they know 'there's a rabbit off'!

Check out all the other stories on the front page of the linked site and decide if you think they do not have an agenda..
Title: Re: Royal Fail
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 01, 2020, 01: PM
Maybe the useless activists of any party were just useless at their job and posted them late. If you were a postman, you'd just deliver what was given to you and hold your nose
I think too much is being read into this.