I was not able to attend last night because of a prior engagement however I woke to a text message this morning telling me that it was a little eventful and that SteveL spat his dummy out?
SteveL challenged some very personal and insulting remarks made by SAB about the people who run this site.
This was in response to the comments after Fred's question relating to a local org who appear to have dodgy accounting practices.
Watching SAB little tantrum was a true insight into his petulant personality. I thought he behaved more like a 'big girl's blouse' than the Vice Chairman of our Council. If he ever became Chair of the Council I'm sure we could expect to see some right moody strops.
So SteveL didn't like that SAB made a personal comment?
Forgive me but not to defend SAB, however. How come it is fair game for you, SteveL and other HTH admins to personally attack certain councillor but throw all of your toys out of the pram if the tables are turned.
Do onto others as you would have done to yourself.
oh Shadow, of course you were there - we all saw you - and you must have been so anticipating people posting about the matter on here that you finally ran out of patience and did it yourself.
Members of the public aren't allowed to say anything unless they are asking questions which have been submitted 7 days in advance. So from that safe position and from behind the barricade of the front bench, yes SAB thought he would lauch a tirade of personal insults on a member of the public who up until that point had said nothing. While he did so, the Chairman of the Council, whose job it is to make sure such things never happen, concentrated on telling me that I was not allowed to answer back - I was just expected to sit there and take it.
Apart from the fact that at my age, I take being described as 'middle-aged' as something of a compliment, the main message of the episode was that we were all witnessing the final stages of the disintegration of the local labour group and that it can be attributed not so much to 'a couple of middle-aged, failed journalists', but mainly to the activities of 4 or 5 of their own members.
By the way, next week we'll be running a story about how certain Councillors are abusing their positions to by-pass the planning permission procedures to their own own benefit. If you'd like to contribute to the story you can always do so though it might be best to run it passed Marj and your fellow cuckoo Councillor first. ;)
I look forward to reading what you believe said councillor has done.
You must be very confident as I've heard he has a very good solicitor.
And how would you know to which Councillor I was referring and whether or not he has a good solicitor unless you were that very same Councillor?
You see the trouble with you my little suited, gelled friend is that you're not half as clever as you think you are and too frequently, you allow your keeness to score a point to take precedent over your overall strategy. When you think you've won a little victory you then go and spoil it all by being unable to resist broadcasting it to anyone who will listen.
Choose your friends more wisely my little anorexic troll.
I think Shadow has missed the point. If someone says something too personal on here then at least they have the opportunity to reply. I was at the council meeting last night and what I witnessed was a disgrace; a councillor using his position to throw insults at a member of the public knowing full well that the person had no opportunity to respond. It was cowardly to say the least, with each insult Akers-Belcher would glance at the labour seats looking for approval. He was playing to the labour group when he would have done better to have watched the reaction of the rest of the members of the public witnessing his behaviour. They were both shocked and disgusted.
It reminded me a little of the hospital issue when Labour was far too preoccupied with its own internal party affairs and paid no attention to what the public were thinking.
Roll on the elections.
Quote from: steveL on April 13, 2012, 10: AM
And how would you know to which Councillor I was referring and whether or not he has a good solicitor unless you were that very same Councillor?
Because you used the words "cuckoo councillor". It does not take a genious to work out who you are talking about Steve.
Given that you have an enfatuation with said councillor, constantly commenting on his good dress sense, hair style and now how slim he is looking.
Can I ask what the actual comments were?
Quote from: LOL@U on April 13, 2012, 10: AM
I've never attended a council meeting but I think it could be fun. I can guarantee if any of them spoke to me like it is being alleged on here they spoke to people then they might tell me I can't answer back during the meeting but I would certainly knock seven bells out of the big mouthed get when the meeting finished and their protocol didn't apply. The added bonus would be that a lot of them have faces that you'd never tire of kicking.
What happens if you broke a nail, you have not thought this through!
Quote from: The Shadow on April 13, 2012, 11: AM
Quote from: steveL on April 13, 2012, 10: AM
And how would you know to which Councillor I was referring and whether or not he has a good solicitor unless you were that very same Councillor?
Because you used the words "cuckoo councillor". It does not take a genious to work out who you are talking about Steve.
Given that you have an enfatuation with said councillor, constantly commenting on his good dress sense, hair style and now how slim he is looking.
Mutton dressed as Lamb, mate. A real Tory would know how to spell infatuation, for one thing.
Hang on.. I wanted to vote Tory.. but it's pointless, so I will vote for this new crowd, even if down the line they press the self destruct buttom, they might be value for money in the mean time!
How good does my spelling need to be to vote Tory, if I only have to put a mark in the little square provided when I vote?
Come on Steve what was said? you can say on here, we won't tell anyone. ;)
Sorry Porky I didn't have the chance to go to a grammar school or have the luxury of being sent to Yarm school like Brash. You'll have to excuse my spelling.
I've since spoken to my friend and I'll tell you what was said.
Fred asked a question relating to the Manor Residents accounts. Mayor said HBC wouldn't investigate as it is not their job to do so, it is the charity commissions job.
CAB then pointed out that if the authors of this story had checked these "facts" with the CC they would have been told that the two documents are identical because of a mistake at their end which they will rectify.
SAB then stood up and suggested that if people put half as much effort into helping the voluntary organisations than they do trying to destroy them then a lot of good could be done in this town.
Ohh yes... Apparently PorkyL got very upset when SAB suggested that the rumours had been spread by a group of middle aged men who, at one point, fancied themselves as reporters but never made the cut so run this website to make them feel like someone.
Perhaps others that were there can help me out as I only really remember the bit about 'middle aged, failed journalists.' We were a few minutes late getting there and it took a few seconds for me to realise that what he was saying was directed at me. I was more amazed that Richardson was more concerned with stopping me from responding than pointing out to his labour colleague that he was well out of order.
But that's Labour for you, I guess. So far up their own arses that they've forgotten how a council is supposed to behave.
Quote from: The Shadow on April 13, 2012, 01: PM
Sorry Porky I didn't have the chance to go to a grammar school or have the luxury of being sent to Yarm school like Brash. You'll have to excuse my spelling.
I've since spoken to my friend and I'll tell you what was said.
Fred asked a question relating to the Manor Residents accounts. Mayor said HBC wouldn't investigate as it is not their job to do so, it is the charity commissions job.
CAB then pointed out that if the authors of this story had checked these "facts" with the CC they would have been told that the two documents are identical because of a mistake at their end which they will rectify.
SAB then stood up and suggested that if people put half as much effort into helping the voluntary organisations than they do trying to destroy them then a lot of good could be done in this town.
Ohh yes... Apparently PorkyL got very upset when SAB suggested that the rumours had been spread by a group of middle aged men who, at one point, fancied themselves as reporters but never made the cut so run this website to make them feel like someone.
LOL - give it up, man. Your 'friend' must have a hell of a memory to recount things to you by phone in such detail.
Yes, I remember what Christopher Akers-Belcher said and it's important that everyone does because someone connected to that organisation is going to end up going down for what's been happening.
I can tell you that we too are in discussion with the Charity Commission and Akers-Belcher's version of events is not quite accurate. ;)
In case anyone hasn't noticed yet, the second year's accounts have been taken off the Charity Commission's website.
Quote Shadow
"Mayor said HBC wouldn't investigate as it is not their job to do so, it is the charity commissions job".
It f...... is their job!! that's our money, they are the Custodian of it, so we should quite rightly be able to insist on the council checking what's happening to our £640,000.
Infact, they should bring the police and the charity commision in to ensure nothing dodgy is happening to our money.
That's what we expect of any mayor paid by the people, to ensure the people are not getting a raw deal.
Quote Shadow
"CAB then pointed out that if the authors of this story had checked these "facts" with the CC they would have been told that the two documents are identical because of a mistake at their end which they will rectify.
SAB then stood up and suggested that if people put half as much effort into helping the voluntary organisations than they do trying to destroy them then a lot of good could be done in this town".
If what they say is true I would agree with them!! it's a big IF though.
Quote Shadow
Ohh yes... Apparently PorkyL got very upset when SAB suggested that the rumours had been spread by a group of middle aged men who, at one point, fancied themselves as reporters but never made the cut so run this website to make them feel like someone.
I have never fancied myself as a reporter, infact, I don't know what I want to do when I grow up yet..
Email the mayor and tell him that then.
The SCAB Enterprise and Wilcox Ltd must be really worried. Worried enough to send their 'action man' Tory fifth columnist undercover to try and salvage something from the wreck!
Was mad dog wearing her favourite 'Mail Photo' outfit last night and who won the biggest beer gut competition, Richardson or SCAB 1?
Should have been a walkover for them if Angie was not present.
Seriously though once they have to resort to doing the dirty work themselves then you know you have really gotten under their skin. Nothing like being lectured by the lickspittles and fart catchers of (one of) a pair of public purse compo-scroungers and family who make the Mafia envious!
This all smacks of desperation to me
The Mayor said that HBC were happy with the fact that the contributions by HBC had been used in accordance with the councils guidelines... How he could differentiate between who contributed what & whether or not it was misused, puzzled me a bit.
The number of councillors who called for The Mayor to initiate an investigation into the manor issue was enlightening to say the least, there are more questions to come on this murky business.
As for the abuse that was aimed at steveL it was nothing short of disgracefull, abusing someone who has no right of reply, says rather more about the abuser, than the abused
Its easy being a bully when you have a gang behind you, & SAB showed himself up for what he is, a would be bully.
Come on Fred..his just playing..showing off is not the same thing as bullying.
How could anyone be bullied by S.A.B. he still looks on to his adopted parents for support before he speaks..Marj & Carl are just giving him space to grow.
Come on SteveL has given them plenty of stick in the past, so fair's fair.
Quote from: fred c on April 13, 2012, 07: PM
Its easy being a bully when you have a gang behind you, & SAB showed himself up for what he is, a would be bully.
This from someone who benefited greatly when his partner was (it is claimed) called a name by his superior!
It seems that the SCABs can 'give' but not 'take'!
One wonders why this paragon of vitue did not see the need to comment on the rather large number of siblings from the Wilcox extended family who have secured well paid jobs at the taxpayers expense.
I wonder if Manor Residents are able to make donations to worthy (bus using) causes.......................
Quote from: notinshadow on April 13, 2012, 07: PM
Marj & Carl are just giving him space to grow.
They gave him too much space in which to grow his gut!
It does show they are rattled though, I expect we will see C.A.B. making a return to the forum to explain it all better to us, to put everyones mind at rest.
Quote from: mk1 on April 13, 2012, 07: PM
Quote from: notinshadow on April 13, 2012, 07: PM
Marj & Carl are just giving him space to grow.
They gave him too much space in which to grow his gut!
I don't care if his overweight, I don't care if his a gay man who wishes to marry another gay man.
I don't care if they hold hands and tell everyone how much in love they are.
I just don't care about it.
I don't care if they wear pink..I did in my Don Johnson dressing days too in the 80's.
What I care about is the p**s poor choices he makes that f*c* up peoples lives.
Quote from: notinshadow on April 13, 2012, 07: PM
What I care about is the p**s poor choices he makes that mess up peoples lives.
And when chastened for his supine attitude (
want me to look the other way whilst you close our Hospital? 5000 quid should do it) he plays the 'Homophobic' card to try and escape censure.
Damn..
Now that I have to say is spot on!!
He will have a job for life with the NHS, working his way up the ladder quicker than he could have hoped for before his service were required. He would have made plenty of friends at work since in the right places.
Oh, notinshadow; language! :-[
Obviously this site isn't back to normal, otherwise certain words wouldn't have been published.
Believe me, females can swear just a vehemently as men but there is a time and place....I am just a 'wound up' as most people on this site about the shenanigans in the red brick building in Victoria Road. >:(
However, resorting to language akin to the 'Bunker' will not help the cause, or bring 'newcomers' to HTH to think we have 'something to say'. 8)
And no, I don't mean to preach, I just want readers to see that the majority of HTH contributors have a cogent and viable reason to continue to complain about what goes on in this town and is not simply 'opposition' for opposition sake.
Roll on the May elections. :)
OK
Where is it exactly you are looking?
I'm afraid that one is down to me, Julie, haven't quite gotten round to sorting the bad word filter yet but I'm working on it. As you can imagine, it can be quite extensive.... ;)
Hmmm..........I never noticed the word and included it in my quote. I have gone back and edited my post to remove the statement if you see Kay
Quote from: The Shadow on April 13, 2012, 01: PMMayor said HBC wouldn't investigate as it is not their job to do so, it is the charity commissions job.
CAB then pointed out that if the authors of this story had checked these "facts" with the CC they would have been told that the two documents are identical because of a mistake at their end which they will rectify....
Actually community interest conmpanies CICs are NOT Charities and are regulated by are regulated by the CIC regulator with what is intended as a "light-touch". This compares with the relatively "heavy" regulation of charities by the Charity Commission. However, the CIC regulator will respond to complaints from stakeholders and has considerable powers to act to protect the community interest.
As with all companies, CICs are required to file annual accounts and an annual return with Companies House. In addition, a CIC has to file a community interest report annually, which will explain how the CIC pursued the community interest and involved its stakeholders and will, if applicable, give details of payments to directors and any dividends paid.
Maybe someone should point out the difference to the Mayor and SA-B between a charity and a CIC? Not least the basic rule of charity law that charities must in most circumstances have volunteer boards. A major advantage of CICs is that their directors can be paid a salary!
Follow the money! That's the answer every time!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/dec/01/setting-up-community-interest-company
If we referring to Manor Residents Association. it is a charity and registered with the Charity Commission and subject to its regulations.
see http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/SearchMatchList.aspx