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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: Lord Elpus on April 04, 2012, 08: AM

Title: Private Eye
Post by: Lord Elpus on April 04, 2012, 08: AM
Private Eye is worth a read this week.  Ms Wilcox and Cranney get a mention, in the Rotten Broughs article.

Seems strange the Mail have chosen to ignore the issue.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: steveL on April 04, 2012, 01: PM
....and still nothing in the Hartlepool Mail. You'd think they'd be embarassed.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: mk1 on April 05, 2012, 03: AM
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Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 05, 2012, 03: AM
This should be e-mailed to the nationals MK1 ?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Lord Elpus on April 05, 2012, 07: AM
I recall comments were requested from the towns leading politicians on this issue before it was put online, were any replies received from the great and glorious?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: steveL on April 05, 2012, 09: AM
We got responses from Ray Wells and Stuart Drummond but not from Ged Hall or Arthur Preece. In all the chaos they haven't been published which is something that needs to be rectified
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Shepherd on April 05, 2012, 09: AM
The fact that the Mail has not even hinted at this speaks volumes!
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Shepherd on April 05, 2012, 09: AM
If only this could be posted through every letterbox on the Manor?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on April 05, 2012, 09: AM


It doesn't seem to matter what is actually happening in the town - the Mail still seems to offer the same old stories.  Should a Viking longboat be found in the dunes on the same day that Venusians land on Owton Manor, the paper would still headline centenarians' birthdays, the latest contestants for bacon pincher of the year plus stiffly-posed pictures of grinning Councillors/Mayor.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: marky on April 05, 2012, 09: AM
Whichever way you look at it, it's nothing short of a scandal really that the local newspaper won't touch this. Whose pocket are they in, exactly?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 05, 2012, 11: AM
This should be posted through every door in her ward, i'll put a tenner in the pot .
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: rabbit on April 05, 2012, 11: AM
"Whichever way you look at it, it's nothing short of a scandal really that the local newspaper won't touch this. Whose pocket are they in, exactly?"

As I said elsewhere the local rag would not wish to "rock the boat". It hasn`t got the funds to defend any possible legal case in the courts, if any article backfired on them.

The matter really has to be followed through the proper channels, ie, first of all through questions to the Charity Commission.


The Mail could do this in the background, before putting anything in print. There again we shouldn`t expect expect a "Woodward and Bernstein" to be employed in Hartlepool.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: testing times on April 05, 2012, 11: AM
Not sure if I go along with that, really. The duplicate accounts are there for all to see and leave little room for interpretation. This aspect alone is worth a stand-alone story, surely?

I suspect that this whole story has only just scratched the surface of some of the things that are and have been going on in Hartlepool for far too long. Who knows what other things are out there?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: marky on April 06, 2012, 11: AM
I wonder if the Echo or the Gazette pick it up now that it's been in PE
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: for fawkes sake on April 06, 2012, 03: PM
Strange to find that it had sold out when I tried to buy a copy. Is this a sign, I ask?
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on April 06, 2012, 03: PM
Quote from: for fawkes sake on April 06, 2012, 03: PM
Strange to find that it had sold out when I tried to buy a copy. Is this a sign, I ask?

Most strange...there's usually a couple left on the shelves even when the new one is due out...
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: steveL on April 07, 2012, 06: AM
I'm expecting this to be picked up by the Northern Echo some time next week.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: fred c on April 07, 2012, 09: AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if The Echo does run with something on this.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Julie noted on April 07, 2012, 07: PM
I find it strange that 'cookingfat' can be arrested and out into the cells for 8 hours for a fatuous complaint by 'it', and yet, knowing this site is monitored by Cleveland's finest????, NOTHING has been done to investigate the documentation alleged to show the financial records of the Kilmarnock Road bunch.  ???
Will this end up as yet another police force investigating why Cleveland police didn't carry out an investigation into the alleged strange financial affairs?
Why are they quick off the blocks for some things and reticent in others?  :o
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: for fawkes sake on April 07, 2012, 07: PM
A very good point, Julie and one many people are trying to fathom. It may well hinge on whether or not an actual complaint has been made. What does seem to be clear is that the Mail/Labour alliance has chosen to suppress the story as much as possible. It would not involve much effort on the part of The Mail to take a look at the accounts lodged with the Charity Commission and they would only have to see the first two years to know that a rabbit was afoot.

Personally, I can't help but think that the frequent appearences of the three Owton Labour candidates in the paper is deliberately designed to counter any negative publicity.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Shepherd on April 07, 2012, 08: PM
Julie noted and ffs, agreed! The lack of action stinks.

It would seem Hartlepool is run by these 3.

The are in positions to influence decision making, they are deciding where the money goes, they are in receipt of said monies?

How the rubber duck to they get away with it????
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on April 09, 2012, 07: PM
If anyone is still trying to get a copy of Private Eye, Sainsbury's on Seaton Lane have some on display.
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: Greg X on April 14, 2012, 03: PM
I don't buy the Mail but read it at the In-Laws when we go there. I cannot ever remember reading any 'journalism' - only reports, sob stories and the usual red-top drivel.
The sad fact is that local papers cannot afford to offend anyone. Especially where the main protagonist of a good story is the source of much of its copy and a large percentage of its advertising revenue.
Hopefully if the regional press or TV go with a story the local rag will at least have to report on it - if not have an opinion or actively investigate.

Thank God for the Eye - should be compulsory reading
Title: Re: Private Eye
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 14, 2012, 06: PM
When joy yates started 5 years ago i told her that if she didn't personalise the paper she would be replaced by a cd-rom. I wasn't far wrong, it could be edited by predictive text now or an office junior, they have no journalists just £6 an hour 2nd hand news gatherers.