Promises, Promises

Started by steveL, October 12, 2017, 05: PM

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steveL

Diplomacy is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

mk1

They always say the same things and never deliver.


1994 pipe dream:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/whatevers-happened-to-hartlepool-a-new-historic-seaport-a-mall-with-versace-and-armani-a-marina-and-1384314.html


Behind us is an extraordinary sight: a brand new late 18th century sea port, Hartlepool Historic Quay . 'Built in 52 weeks by Balfour Beatty. That's how we get things done here. Fixed price, fixed term contracts. No excuses for delays, no escape clauses.'

We sit outside an 18th century tavern (or what looks like one). 'The tavern didn't exist a day before it opened', says Hall. 'We had a set designer fit it out in less than 24-hours'. Today, it is jammed full. 'It'll be more popular next year when we open the biggest and best bingo hall in the country here.' The quay is expected to attract half-a-million visitors in 1995........................ By December we'll have Jackson's Landing, a mall of between 25 and 30 big name designer shops - Armani, Versace, the lot, and eight class restaurants. They'll come from miles away to shop here.'

Will they? Hall cites the example of the designer shopping mall opened recently in Street, Somerset where coachloads of shoppers pile down from Liverpool, Manchester and the West Midlands every day.

'The other dock is the site of the new Imperial War Museum. It's by Sir Norman Foster. We've got him on a design and build contract so we can get it built and fitted out in 52 weeks. We're also building 800 new homes around the new marina. We've sold most of them. You tell me which are council flats and which belong to yachties. You can't, can you? I like to see everyone mixed together, real life coming back to the town.'...................The encouraging sign is that the marina, quay and mall are linked to the town centre, unlike, say, the new marina at Southampton. Duncan Hall and his team are learning from the mistakes of earlier development corporations................He believes, despite local scepticism that leisure and shopping are the anchor that will hold Hartlepool steady while future waves of economic depression and elation buffet it.


This week's  Add-sheet is  promoting the myth of Hotels fighting for land on The Marina 

https://www.facebook.com/HartlepoolLife/photos/a.248893762247433.1073741828.169909173479226/342414846228657/?type=3&theater

Inspector Knacker

Local scepticism has even Hartlepools ball and chain for years, we do have a can't do attitude in a sizeable percentage of the population.
The Marina has brought more positives than negatives.
The problem has been, it was developed, handed over then left in the care of people who are clueless. A bit like restoring a classic Bentley then handing it over to a sea coal collector for use on the beach.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

testing times

I think desperation is setting in. There is no plan here just desperation with the council now willing to accept anything on the site to get it out of the hole that it has created for itself. Watch the video and how 18 months ago SAB was claiming that developers were queuing up to build on the site once Jacksons Landing was demolished.

Someone needs to give some thought to the B&B owners around town who have already been hit by the new Travel Lodge and the Premier Inn.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: testing times on October 13, 2017, 09: AM
I think desperation is setting in. Desperation is running the show Watch the video and how 18 months ago SAB was claiming that developers were queuing up to build on the site once Jacksons Landing was demolished.But what sort of 'developers'? Bring the family to Mattress World? Developers of what?

Someone needs to give some thought to the B&B owners around town who have already been hit by the new Travel Lodge and the Premier Inn.Don't forget that the Hilton people have been for a look around the site, or so we are told.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

crisstw

QuoteDon't forget that the Hilton people have been for a look around the site, or so we are told.

That's a load of crap and they know it. A Hilton Hotel is being built in Stockton, on the riverside, there is no way they would also look at building one in Hartlepool.

Inspector Knacker

Come on, if a plane flew over it they'd class it a site visit for development as a docklands airport.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.