https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/call-more-leisure-activities-help-drive-down-antisocial-behaviour-hartlepool-1360179
same lot that closed the youth clubs ????? ::)
What happened to the funds raised from the closure of the youth club at Seaton? Didn't the SCAB led regime want to cease to ring fence it from being designated for use within the ward & use the funds to finance the 'linear park'?
Quote from: kevplumb on January 11, 2020, 11: AM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/call-more-leisure-activities-help-drive-down-antisocial-behaviour-hartlepool-1360179
same lot that closed the youth clubs ????? ::)
But is it the same lot?
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 11, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 11, 2020, 11: AM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/call-more-leisure-activities-help-drive-down-antisocial-behaviour-hartlepool-1360179
same lot that closed the youth clubs ????? ::)
But is it the same lot?
does it really matter its the same old con
1 close it down
2 wait till the dust settles
3 wait till it all goes wrong
3 ride in light knights in shining armour with a solution
4 collect the brownie points from the gullible electorate
5 splash it all over their local propaganda rag
been done to death over the years
Of course it matters. If Councillor A and his mates closed them down 10 years ago, you can't blame whoever is in office now unless they were part of Councillor A's team.
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Hope that was a p**s take of Craneysaurus Kev?
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Hope that was a p**s take of Craneysaurus Kev?
Most of Prof C's er, cough, cough, 'publications' are in pictograms with stick men, words can be hard to come to terms with for some people.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 12, 2020, 02: PM
Of course it matters. If Councillor A and his mates closed them down 10 years ago, you can't blame whoever is in office now unless they were part of Councillor A's team.
Isn't that far too logical? :D
Quote from: kevplumb on January 12, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 11, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 11, 2020, 11: AM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/call-more-leisure-activities-help-drive-down-antisocial-behaviour-hartlepool-1360179
same lot that closed the youth clubs ????? ::)
But is it the same lot?
does it really matter its the same old con
1 close it down
2 wait till the dust settles
3 wait till it all goes wrong
3 ride in light knights in shining armour with a solution
4 collect the brownie points from the gullible electorate
5 splash it all over their local propaganda rag
been done to death over the years
Problem, Reaction, Solution. ;)
Quote from: diSme on January 12, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 12, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 11, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 11, 2020, 11: AM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/call-more-leisure-activities-help-drive-down-antisocial-behaviour-hartlepool-1360179
same lot that closed the youth clubs ????? ::)
But is it the same lot?
does it really matter its the same old con
1 close it down
2 wait till the dust settles
3 wait till it all goes wrong
3 ride in light knights in shining armour with a solution
4 collect the brownie points from the gullible electorate
5 splash it all over their local propaganda rag
been done to death over the years
Problem, Reaction, Solution. ;)
I do love a parallel universe ... ::)
They should put some money back to properly fund Summerhill again. I remember when it opened there was lots of stuff for kids to do, the high ropes course was condemned and never replaced. It makes sense to build on existing assets rather than starting from scratch ?
Trouble with Summerhill is the 'little darlings' who wish to turn it into a recreation of the attack on Pearl Harbour.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 13, 2020, 05: PM
Trouble with Summerhill is the 'little darlings' who wish to turn it into a recreation of the attack on Pearl Harbour.
Yep, Summerhill suffers from the modern plague of feral kids although some of the Quad Bike oafs are more than just kids, sadly those who abuse Summerhill have like minded clones in most areas of the town, Seaton, has also witnessed the mindless behaviour of the moronic scum.
How to stop it is obviously a difficult prospect, Seaton has had yet another 'Dispersal Order' put in place this weekend, at the very best it stops the worst of the excesses for a short period but it resumes very quickly with the same 'little darlings' leading the way.
What happened to the big police van, buddle a dozen of the toerags in the back, take them to the Boro nick and get the parents to go to the bother of having to trail through and collect them.
I know....'YOU CAN'T DO THAT'
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity . Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/police-ban-on-extinction-rebellion-protests-ruled-illegal-by-high-court
Quote from: mk1 on January 13, 2020, 07: PM
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity . Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/police-ban-on-extinction-rebellion-protests-ruled-illegal-by-high-court
Simplistic, perhaps? Why are people trying to recreate 'class divisions' which died in the 60s? On a local level, re your specific example do suspect that the number of local Extinction Rebellion aficianados could be counted in double figures.
Quote from: mk1 on January 13, 2020, 07: PM
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity . Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.
You can lock anyone up if you want to. However the sheer practicality of taking them through to the boro to be processed and taking officers out of town highlights the gross stupidity of having a large police station in the town centre where the process could be done, stood unused.
Ah the joys of centralisation, it only makes sense to the suits and coin counters.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.
Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few.
That is how it works in real life.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 13, 2020, 07: PM
You can arbitrarily lock-up people from social Groups C & D with a high level of impunity . Try it with the A, B or C1 people and you soon come unstuck.
You can lock anyone up if you want to. However the sheer practicality of taking them through to the boro to be processed and taking officers out of town highlights the gross stupidity of having a large police station in the town centre where the process could be done, stood unused.
Ah the joys of centralisation, it only makes sense to the suits and coin counters.
Yeah spot on IK, the closing of Hartlepool police station was a disgrace, Avenue Road was closed on the watch of the worst PCC in England, politicising the position was always going to lead to labour cronyism which in turn lead to Hartlepool getting the shitty end of the stick in its policing needs.
Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.
Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few.
That is how it works in real life.
Sounds like old fashioned snobbery.
Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.
Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few.
That is how it works in real life.
as an ex copper i can say that's a load of bollux.....those at he bottom end of the social scale as you put it are as aware of their rights..more so actually as a result of the pool they swim in than the ones who's daddy is a masonic golfer....
Police today are watched like hawks and their actions questioned constantly. Not so the little shites wreaking havoc,
Who cares what happens in the states.
Bottom line is if the little (or big) shits are making life a misery for joe public in Seaton etc (i.e me) lock the bas**ar*s up if nothing else to inconvenience them...if convicted they should be charged for police time..transport etc. we are too soft..if you can't do the time don't do the crime. and yes anti social behaviour ruining people's lives is a crime.
Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.
Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few.
That is how it works in real life.
What an imbecile! Such a purile comment is beyond reasoning. You talk about 'real life'. I'd say you need to grow up sir, get out of Greatham occasionally and taste the real world which is full of:-skanks, ne'r do wells, ferals, low-life's, drug-addled tw**s, etc etc. If some of them happen to be connected to your "worthies"...... you are claiming the law enforcement turns a blind eye for the sake of their careers, or a better handicap from the golf club. You numpty! Hope the next time you are looking for aid from the Boys in Blue they remember you slanderous accusations and leave you to fend for yourself.
Quote from: mk1 on January 14, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 14, 2020, 04: PM
You can lock anyone up if you want to.
Indeed you can but if you lock up the wrong type of people there are consequences. Those at the bottom of the social scale are powerless (daddy unlikely to play golf with the Chief Constable or be in the same Lodge as the local constabulary) and are fair game. Locking them up has little chance of hurting your career.
You appear to base your knowledge of policing on a script from Z Cars circa 1965. It's 2020,
I have read an account by a US Policeman tasked with ending such 'anti-social' behaviour in the USA. He revealed they would only do 'mass arrests' in the poorer areas because when they tried it in more affluent neighbourhoods it turned out many of the parents were Lawyers, Judges or other such worthies and the resulting torrent of complaints harmed many a career and ended a few.
That is how it works in real life.
Again you base your world view on those 'accounts' that conveniently coincide with your own opinions, which appear to be based more on TV scripts and your own class warrior prejudices than everyday policing in the UK.