The first meeting since the summer break is tonight at 7p.m.
The 1st Full Council Meeting of the year......and it lasted exactly 19 minutes, yeah a full 19 minutes.....Local Democracy in action. :-\
Maybe their attention span ain't what it used to be, which that wasn't much to begin with unless it involved a camera or a mirror.
Quote from: fred c on September 14, 2018, 08: AM
The 1st Full Council Meeting of the year......and it lasted exactly 19 minutes, yeah a full 19 minutes.....Local Democracy in action. :-\
anything of importance decided fred ;)
Not really discussions on seating arrangements ie. Independent group to move to the front row of the opposition benches, so there's a possibility of the tory group sitting in the back row.....also new big screen tv's so the plebs can see better.
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/hartlepool-council-vote-against-6-500-meeting-chamber-changes-1-9349928
I'm pretty sure you guys will read into this article as much as I have...
The "smoother than ever" quote boiled my p*ss a bit
Edit: also, I've been meaning to mention, anybody who has trouble accessing Hartlepool Mail articles due to the stupid restrictions that have recently been imposed, if you want to view the mail website without having to worry about registering, use a webproxy.
I personally use - https://hidester.com/proxy/
although there are many others available which do the same thing
An oily comment of Uriah Heep proportions. Loved the comment by 'jeeves' that there were an 'estimated' 10 complaints. Was there 10 complaints or not? I can see someone using 'estimated' if there were hundreds or even thousands, but for 10?
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on September 14, 2018, 05: PM
An oily comment of Uriah Heep proportions. Loved the comment by 'jeeves' that there were an 'estimated' 10 complaints. Was there 10 complaints or not? I can see someone using 'estimated' if there were hundreds or even thousands, but for 10?
More than ten would have meant taking their shoes off ... ?
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on September 14, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on September 14, 2018, 05: PM
An oily comment of Uriah Heep proportions. Loved the comment by 'Jeeves' that there were an 'estimated' 10 complaints. Was there 10 complaints or not? I can see someone using 'estimated' if there were hundreds or even thousands, but for 10?
More than ten would have meant taking their shoes off...?
there is another one of those but I ain't posting it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ah! The wit and wisdom of the ever fragrant Ms. Marshall.
Shouldn't anyone who trots out the phrase "Over the moon" in a press interview be encouraged away from holding public office ......just on principle? (or maybe she thinks she's a 70's football manager)
And as for our Deary-me leader's stance that meetings have recently been much calmer and respectful......nothing to do with the fact that D.R. is not there to keep them honest, and the barring of inveterate, incorrigible trouble makers ( b.t.w....are you allowed back in there yet Fred C? Hope so.)
Like said above - 19 minutes of waffle.
Quote from: Hubris on September 14, 2018, 07: PM
Ah! The wit and wisdom of the ever fragrant Ms. Marshall.
Shouldn't anyone who trots out the phrase "Over the moon" in a press interview be encouraged away from holding public office ......just on principle? (or maybe she thinks she's a 70's football manager)
Maybe it's because she's suffering from a cross between shock and elation that like a desperate electoral bride left standing at the altar she finally got elected ?
"We must sort audio out but I don't feel we need to use expenditure for half a dozen complaints made over audio fails."
During many a council meeting I often wondered what was going through the Dear Leaders mind, with his quote about "half a dozen complaints" I now know.......nothing absolutely nothing, since he became leader there have been umpteen complaints and I mean umpteen,
He is one of the biggest culprits, he often holds papers between his moi and the mic, his voice gradually becomes quieter, not to mention his annunciation.....It's always someone else's fault, in this case, yet again it's the publics for having 'hearing problems'
Coun Ann Marshall said: "I'm over the moon with how it is set up now"
As for Ms Marshall being "over the moon"......hahahahahahahaha
They've definitely improved in terms of respect. I mean, it's been a while since I saw the chair call a member of the public fat, like SCAB did. It's been a while since anyone literally fell asleep in a meeting. It's also been a while since the deputy mayor asked a pensioner if he'd slept with her. It's been a while since a former mayor stood up and told an absolute full on out and out lie in a meeting. It's also been a while since the committee chair was caught out being economical with the truth about the crown estate. It's also definitely been a while since one councillor had to be held back from hitting another by two senior officers. Then of course there's the councillor who told members of the public "I don't need you're shitty votes". Yup, respect now flows freely in council meetings.
However, it's also worth knowing that FINALLY the council has gotten around to investigating TWO Labour councillors telling another to "F@ck off!" in the members lounge.
It amazes me how there are reportedly some within the labour ranks that think it was ME that disrupted the flow of council meetings. All I did was cause some of their members masks to slip and reveal their true colours.
We still have a situation where 5 or 6 of the Labour group are scum who aren't fit for public office. You can arrange to seats in a million different positions or turn the volume up louder than a Rolling Stones concert.
They'll still be scum.
Hey Ho.
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 09: AM
They've definitely improved in terms of respect. I mean, it's been a while since I saw the chair call a member of the public fat, like SCAB did. It's been a while since anyone literally fell asleep in a meeting. It's also been a while since the deputy mayor asked a pensioner if he'd slept with her. It's been a while since a former mayor stood up and told an absolute full on out and out lie in a meeting. It's also been a while since the committee chair was caught out being economical with the truth about the crown estate. It's also definitely been a while since one councillor had to be held back from hitting another by two senior officers. Then of course there's the councillor who told members of the public "I don't need you're shitty votes". Yup, respect now flows freely in council meetings.
However, it's also worth knowing that FINALLY the council has gotten around to investigating TWO Labour councillors telling another to "F@ck off!" in the members lounge.
It amazes me how there are reportedly some within the labour ranks that think it was ME that disrupted the flow of council meetings. All I did was cause some of their members masks to slip and reveal their true colours.
We still have a situation where 5 or 6 of the Labour group are scum who aren't fit for public office. You can arrange to seats in a million different positions or turn the volume up louder than a Rolling Stones concert.
They'll still be scum.
Hey Ho.
Can't fault a word of that......Apart from missing out on Cranneys "Wifebeater" comment...... and the Workshy description of a number of them.
By the way, any predictions into the outcome of an investigation into Marjorie James telling two other councillors to "ffoookk right off" even though there's a crystal clear audio recording of her doing it?
How about nothing....zero, zip, nada, zilch, diddly, nuthin, jack, sweet FA...
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 01: PM
By the way, any predictions into the outcome of an investigation into Marjorie James telling two other councillors to "ffoookk right off" even though there's a crystal clear audio recording of her doing it?
'carpet' 'sweep' and 'under' are the three main words that spring to mind...
Quote from: diSme on September 15, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 01: PM
By the way, any predictions into the outcome of an investigation into Marjorie James telling two other councillors to "ffoookk right off" even though there's a crystal clear audio recording of her doing it?
'carpet' 'sweep' and 'under' are the three main words that spring to mind...
as long as it is the right colour :D
In all my years of being aware of such complaints this 'verdict' is up there with any other in terms of it being utterly ridiculous. I don't blame the officers involved, I get why they can't/won't do anything, but even so, this one's a classic.
Basically the independents got blamed for goading SAB and Mad dog into telling us to f*c* off. The investigating officer opted NOT to ask for a copy of the recording of Mad dog barking f*c* as they claimed it would not assist them in establishing why the situation developed as it did.
Lastly, independents were warned that if the recording found its way into the public domain that could be (a) illegal and (b) a breach of the councillors code of conduct.
So there you go. A new low in the reign of the SCAB clan. It's NOT a breach of the councils code of conduct to tell another councillor to f*c* off, but it MIGHT be if you release a recording if them doing so.
Only in Hartlepool.
Yep....Scum.
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 08: PM
Lastly, independents were warned that if the recording found its way into the public domain that could be (a) illegal and (b) a breach of the councillors code of conduct.
If a copy ever lands in my hands it
will be 'published'.
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 08: PM
In all my years of being aware of such complaints this 'verdict' is up there with any other in terms of it being utterly ridiculous. I don't blame the officers involved, I get why they can't/won't do anything, but even so, this one's a classic.
Basically the independents got blamed for goading SAB and Mad dog into telling us to f*c* off. The investigating officer opted NOT to ask for a copy of the recording of Mad dog barking f*c* as they claimed it would not assist them in establishing why the situation developed as it did.
Lastly, independents were warned that if the recording found its way into the public domain that could be (a) illegal and (b) a breach of the councillors code of conduct.
So there you go. A new low in the reign of the SCAB clan. It's NOT a breach of the councils code of conduct to tell another councillor to f*c* off, but it MIGHT be if you release a recording if them doing so.
Only in Hartlepool.
Funny that because I got called to appear before Stubbs and Develin for telling the odious little t*a* Ray Wells to 'fook right off' after one council meeting. He demanded an apology, he didn't get it.
Their ingrained first line of defence is to deny everything. If you asked them the time they'd deny they had a watch and then want to know why you wanted to to know anyway!
Quote from: diSme on September 15, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on September 15, 2018, 01: PM
By the way, any predictions into the outcome of an investigation into Marjorie James telling two other councillors to "ffoookk right off" even though there's a crystal clear audio recording of her doing it?
'carpet' 'sweep' and 'under' are the three main words that spring to mind...
how right you were DISME THIS IS FROM SEPT
Has the delightful Marjorie been deselected yet?
We'll need to wait until 2022 for that delight
If a recording of the FO offence somehow made its way into the possession of a number of civic minded residents it would make its way onto a social media platform without a doubt......Quite how HBC could institute disciplinary action against anyone least of all a councillor, ex- councillor or a member of the public is beyond me.
Quote from: fred c on October 19, 2018, 03: PM
If a recording of the FO offence somehow made its way into the possession of a number of civic minded residents it would make its way onto a social media platform without a doubt......Quite how HBC could institute disciplinary action against anyone least of all a councillor, ex- councillor or a member of the public is beyond me.
it did fred and SOMEONE made a complaint and was warned if it appeared you would be taken to court ect ect ect