I think this is what is trendily known as "being behind the curve"
The biggest reason that the A&E closed was that it was supported by the local Labour Group led by Steve Wallace who was then Chairman of the PCT. It was a hot topic just before one set of local elections and to get over any impact on the result, Labour arranged with the Hospital Trust that a review panel would be set up to look into the decision to close the A&E.
Our representatives on this panel included Wallace's protege, Stephen Akers-Belcher (yes, that's what he really called him) and Sheila Griffin.
Halfway through the review, the PCT via Wallace donated a £5,000 grant to SAB's Rifty Youth Project to buy a clapped out bus. A few weeks later, with no resistance provided by SAB, the Review Panel recommended that the A&E should close.
Among Wallace's other political successes was to win Sean Price, then Chief Constable of Cleveland Police, a £24,000 honorarium supplement to his already considerable salary while brushing aside critics by declaring that "we (the public) are lucky to have him (Price)".
Price was later sacked for a variety of misdemeanours including the profligate use of the corporate credit card.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/mp-wants-to-see-services-returned-to-hartlepool-s-fit-for-purpose-hospital-1-8792039
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/teen-health-bus-hits-the-roads-1-4336168
Slightly at a tangent (most unusual for me) but one thing which struck me in the original article about the bus is that both Akers-Belchers then openly published their mobile numbers in the Mail. Would they do that now, when even their Twitter accounts appear to be locked down? The numbers may no longer belong to them (I certainly wouldn't dream of trying them just in case they answered - I'm fussy who I speak to) but does this show a sea change (for whatever reasons) in how they were free to communicate then and now with the public?
Where is the Bus now ?
Quote from: steveL on October 09, 2017, 01: PM
Halfway through the review, the PCT via Wallace donated a £5,000 grant to SAB's Rifty Youth Project to buy a clapped out bus. A few weeks later, with no resistance provided by SAB, the Review Panel recommended that the A&E should close.
The bus was previously owned by Hartlepool Families First
It ended its life stored next to Cranney's Mountain in Mainsforth Terrace. I don't know what happened to it after he sold the land - scrapped probably.
so in effect SAB and his cohorts sold our A&E for a clapped out bus
lying bag of sh*t should be made to live in it alony with hubby >:( >:( >:(
In approx 2003 there was a strategic health review carried out by the regional health authority, chair and guy call Garrard.
There were three options;
do nothing (they said it was not an option),
centre all services at Hartlepool hospital or centre all services at North Tees
Build a new hospital
Mandelson was all for a new Hospital and he made sure all the Labour group were either onboard or kept their mouth shut.
Mandy in effect made sure Hartlepool Labour Group supported a new Hospital, Drummond made some noises in support of Hartlepool but was soon worn down.
If the then Labour MP had fought for his towns wishes we would be in a very different place right now.
If the then Labour group had the balls to stand up against Mandy and the Chair of NT&H NHS Trust ex Labour Council Leader Brian Hanson, followed by ex Labour Leader Russell Hart, we might have stood a fighting chance.
Labour have stood back at every opportunity and seen the battle to save our hospital services fought by others, they only showed an interest at election times then did sweet f*n*y adams to deliver.
What was their reasoning? It was of no real benefit to the people of the town, so just what was their motive?
Quote from: Riddler5 on October 09, 2017, 08: PM
What was their reasoning? It was of no real benefit to the people of the town, so just what was their motive?
Apart from the obvious benefit of a £5000 bung was it that Hartlepool would get an incomes out of the new hospital?
Any income out of the new hospital would be largely negated by the loss off the present hospital. £5000? an irrelevance in this instance, as alienating, even infuriating the electorate for whatever reason, just makes no sense for any politician. Of course, there's no accounting for dumb politicians egotistical lust for a bit of ribbon cutting and a buffet at its opening, but?
I feel I'm missing something here.
James Cook is all but officially designated as our hospital now. The accident and emergency at North Tees will be closed.
I predict lots of dummies being thrown out of prams and nobody that matters caring.
It's got to the stage where people have just given up hope. The politicians supposedly defending the interests of the towns citizens are as much use as candy floss barbed wire, because when you get up close to it you realise it's not a problem, just a squidgy substitute for the real thing and you can walk all over without any problem.
Quote from: Lord Elpus on October 09, 2017, 08: PM
In approx 2003 there was a strategic health review carried out by the regional health authority, chair and guy call Garrard.
There were three options;
do nothing (they said it was not an option),
centre all services at Hartlepool hospital or centre all services at North Tees
Build a new hospital
Mandelson was all for a new Hospital and he made sure all the Labour group were either onboard or kept their mouth shut.
Mandy in effect made sure Hartlepool Labour Group supported a new Hospital, Drummond made some noises in support of Hartlepool but was soon worn down.
If the then Labour MP had fought for his towns wishes we would be in a very different place right now.
If the then Labour group had the balls to stand up against Mandy and the Chair of NT&H NHS Trust ex Labour Council Leader Brian Hanson, followed by ex Labour Leader Russell Hart, we might have stood a fighting chance.
Labour have stood back at every opportunity and seen the battle to save our hospital services fought by others, they only showed an interest at election times then did sweet f*n*y adams to deliver.
A couple of articles to refresh the memory about HGH and its long battle to maintain its "identity" over the years.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/6951163.Hospital_chief_to_step_down/?ref=arc
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/hospital-boss-asks-for-early-retirement-1-982473
The issues have been around for a long time, long before the current CEO and Chairman of the NTH Trust were involved. The decision to amalgamate the two NHS Trusts was perhaps a recognition that individually both hospitals would struggle.
It is more than just A&E and I want the best service possible locally but attracting the clinical staff to this area has been difficult for a number of years. I seem to remember HGH recruiting from the USA at high cost to try and fill a vacancy. It didn't last very long.
Will HGH return to what it was? Highly unlikely whether our new MP makes a noise or not. Times have changed.
Quote from: Truthache on October 10, 2017, 02: PM
Quote from: Lord Elpus on October 09, 2017, 08: PM
In approx 2003 there was a strategic health review carried out by the regional health authority, chair and guy call Garrard.
There were three options;
do nothing (they said it was not an option),
centre all services at Hartlepool hospital or centre all services at North Tees
Build a new hospital
Mandelson was all for a new Hospital and he made sure all the Labour group were either onboard or kept their mouth shut.
Mandy in effect made sure Hartlepool Labour Group supported a new Hospital, Drummond made some noises in support of Hartlepool but was soon worn down.
If the then Labour MP had fought for his towns wishes we would be in a very different place right now.
If the then Labour group had the balls to stand up against Mandy and the Chair of NT&H NHS Trust ex Labour Council Leader Brian Hanson, followed by ex Labour Leader Russell Hart, we might have stood a fighting chance.
Labour have stood back at every opportunity and seen the battle to save our hospital services fought by others, they only showed an interest at election times then did sweet f*n*y adams to deliver.
A couple of articles to refresh the memory about HGH and its long battle to maintain its "identity" over the years.
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/6951163.Hospital_chief_to_step_down/?ref=arc
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/hospital-boss-asks-for-early-retirement-1-982473
The issues have been around for a long time, long before the current CEO and Chairman of the NTH Trust were involved. The decision to amalgamate the two NHS Trusts was perhaps a recognition that individually both hospitals would struggle.
It is more than just A&E and I want the best service possible locally but attracting the clinical staff to this area has been difficult for a number of years. I seem to remember HGH recruiting from the USA at high cost to try and fill a vacancy. It didn't last very long.
Will HGH return to what it was? Highly unlikely whether our new MP makes a noise or not. Times have changed.
It's just wind whistling through the trees from the towns Member, another article to justify his existence, he can spit and tear paper till the cows come home, he knows the hospital will never return to a fully operational status but he has to be see to be doing something.
To be fair to him he has hardly had a chance for the cushion on his chair to mould to the shape of his a**e, we will see in the next 9 months if there is any movement with the hospital situation, if not, we could find ourselves with another Wright representing the town.......and we all know what that ment for Hartlepool
"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"
One of the stories I remember is the day Russel Hart, as Chairman of the Hospital Trust, received a 150% pay rise from £20,000 a year to £50,000 for his 2-day a week job.
With Labour's Bryan Hanson preceding him and Labour's Steve Wallace at the PCT on a similar wack, none of whom had any medical background, you get a picture of how the whole corrupt gravy train works.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, A&E access will get further and further away. Then we'll have the golden hour replaced by the golden two hours.
Hartlepool is a towh apparently full of ambulances flying here, there and everywhere. Parked up near the Tesco roundabout I saw one with it blues and two's heading north to see another one heading in the opposite direction, baffling.
The Wolviston service area is a popular parking spot for ambulances and paramedic cars, makes sense I suppose it is a fairly central area.
Mileage wise, which is closer Sunderland or James Cook?
The odd thing is, if the A&E at North Tees closes, the professionals will be complaining about too many people turning up at A&E, it's not too many people, it's too few A&E's. Any fool knows that shutting them moves even more people to what"s left. Sadly the suits in charge blame those turning up. Bizarre.
On Google Maps it is 26 km in a straight line to Sunderland Royal. To James cook in a straight line and dog-legging over the Tees bridges it is 16 km. Distance to Durham A&E is 27 km straight line. To Darlo 28 km straight line
Milage is one thing.
Fighting rush hour traffic going south is another.