Just as we all hear that Alan Barclay is going to be the next Deputy Chair of Council (and therefore likely successor to the throne next year), you imagine that things cannot get any dafter.
Well, they do !
I have just received the following email :
"I thought you might be interested to know that Christopher and Stephen Akers-Belcher have put in a formal complaint against staff at the Borough Hall on the grounds that they did not hold the doors open for them as they arrived for the Hartlepool Business Awards dinner last night."
I will just leave that one there for a little while to sink in.
They definitely put the champagne is Socialist.
Narcissistic personality disorder Signs and symptoms
People with narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by their persistent grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, and a disdain and lack of empathy for others.[7][8] These individuals often display arrogance, a sense of superiority, and power-seeking behaviors.[9] Narcissistic personality disorder is different from having a strong sense of self-confidence; people with NPD typically value themselves over others to the extent that they disregard the feelings and wishes of others and expect to be treated as superior regardless of their actual status or achievements.[7][10] In addition, people with NPD may exhibit fragile egos, an inability to tolerate criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in an attempt to validate their own superiority.[10]
According to the DSM-5, individuals with NPD have most or all of the following symptoms, typically without commensurate qualities or accomplishments:[7][10]
Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
Needing constant admiration from others
Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs
Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
Pompous and arrogant demeanor
NPD usually develops by adolescence or early adulthood.[7] It is not uncommon for children and teens to display some traits similar to NPD, but these are typically transient without meeting full criteria for the diagnosis.[10] True NPD symptoms are pervasive, apparent in various situations, and rigid, remaining consistent over time. The symptoms must be severe enough that they significantly impair the individual's ability to develop meaningful relationships with others. Symptoms also generally impair an individual's ability to function at work, school, or in other important settings. According to the DSM-5, these traits must differ substantially from cultural norms in order to qualify as symptoms of NPD.[7]
Associated features
People with NPD tend to exaggerate their skills and accomplishments as well as their level of intimacy with people they consider to be high-status. Their sense of superiority may cause them to monopolize conversations[10] and to become impatient or disdainful when others talk about themselves.[7] In the course of a conversation, they may purposefully or unknowingly disparage or devalue the other person by overemphasizing their own success. When they are aware that their statements have hurt someone else, they tend to react with contempt and to view it as a sign of weakness.[7] When their own ego is wounded by a real or perceived criticism, their anger can be disproportionate to the situation,[10] but typically, their actions and responses are deliberate and calculated.[7] Despite occasional flare-ups of insecurity, their self-image is primarily stable (i.e., overinflated).[7]
To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, they can be controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others' views, unaware of others' needs, the effects of their behavior on others, and insist that others see them as they wish to be seen.[7] Narcissistic individuals use various strategies to protect the self at the expense of others. They tend to devalue, derogate, insult, blame others and they often respond to threatening feedback with anger and hostility.[11] Since the fragile ego of individuals with NPD is hypersensitive to perceived criticism or defeat, they are prone to feelings of shame, humiliation and worthlessness over minor or even imagined incidents.[10] They usually mask these feelings from others with feigned humility, isolating socially or they may react with outbursts of rage, defiance, or by seeking revenge.[7][8] The merging of the "inflated self-concept" and the "actual self" is seen in the inherent grandiosity of narcissistic personality disorder. Also inherent in this process are the defense mechanisms of denial, idealization and devaluation.[12]
According to the DSM-5, "Many highly successful individuals display personality traits that might be considered narcissistic. Only when these traits are inflexible, maladaptive, and persisting and cause significant functional impairment or subjective distress do they constitute narcissistic personality disorder."[7] Although overconfidence tends to make individuals with NPD ambitious, it does not necessarily lead to success and high achievement professionally. These individuals may be unwilling to compete or may refuse to take any risks in order to avoid appearing like a failure.[7][8] In addition, their inability to tolerate setbacks, disagreements or criticism, along with lack of empathy, make it difficult for such individuals to work cooperatively with others or to maintain long-term professional relationships with superiors and colleagues.[13]
To paraphrase a quote by George Eliot. ' They were the cocks who thought the sun had come up to hear them crow'.
kicking off on facebook someone has cut n copied pauls post
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 12, 2017, 02: PM
To paraphrase a quote by George Eliot. ' They were the cocks who thought the sun had come up to hear them crow'.
sweet ;)
The 'cow' at the end should have been a crow... damn this predictive texting malarkey.
I wonder if all their mirrors have love bites on them?
all knew what you meant
and in answer to your question
probably
The dogsh*t on the end of my shoe is more important than those two turds
Quote from: Paul Thompson on May 12, 2017, 12: PM
I have just received the following email :
"I thought you might be interested to know that Christopher and Stephen Akers-Belcher have put in a formal complaint against staff at the Borough Hall on the grounds that they did not hold the doors open for them as they arrived for the Hartlepool Business Awards dinner last night."
I will just leave that one there for a little while to sink in.
Am I alone in thinking that the CEO and Borough Solicitor should stand up for the employees of the council and put this pair of Prima Donna's firmly in their place........
You really have to wonder why, a bloke who was sacked for telling monumental lies to his employer should think himself superior enough to have someone open doors for him.
I'm sure there was a time when security were not allowed to let cwissy into the borough hall for an internal event shortly after his 'abrupt departure' from the employ of HBC.
These are the same clowns that decided to bring back a Mayors Parade so the newly elected Ceremonial Mayor (I.E not real Mayor) SAB could waddle up Victoria Road and along to Park Road and wave to the adoring crowds. As a direct result of a campaign of bluff on this site they cancelled the Parade and were forced to scuttle about in a Council car because they were frightened someone might shout at them.
SAB is also the man who was so scared of his adoring public he got the Council to buy him a bespoke XXXLLL stab-proof vest that he can clearly be seen wearing at the Town Hall Meeting about the Hospital Closure. The man is a complete coward and is reduced to a quivering mass of jelly by the thought of meeting anyone who might disagree with him.
Perhaps staff had not been made aware that the queen and consort were attending the event.
Be interesting if UNISON defend the men or throw them to the wolves sheep
Or maybe they'll get the underlings in and give them compulsory training in deferential behaviour, respect to their superiors and betters and forelock tugging and humbleness at the Uriah Heep Academy of knowing your place. But only after a public apology, appropriate grovelling and a signed confession and dismissal.
The staff on the other hand deserve a medal.
Quote from: mk1 on May 12, 2017, 11: PM
SAB is also the man who was so scared of his adoring public he got the Council to buy him a bespoke XXXLLL stab-proof vest that he can clearly be seen wearing at the Town Hall Meeting about the Hospital Closure. The man is a complete coward and is reduced to a quivering mass of jelly by the thought of meeting anyone who might disagree with him.
Given how hated the little dumpling is,I would have thought he would be ordering a spit hood also.
Again ...what part of "
public servant" do they not understand.
Can't wait for Scabs to have to face up to the reality of a NONE labour MP in the town.
I'd be amazed if 'Twit and t*a*' have not withdrawn their complaint and are trying to cover this all up, likes dogs burying their own vomit.
Quote from: Lord Elpus on May 13, 2017, 09: AM
I'd be amazed if 'Twit and t*a*' have not withdrawn their complaint and are trying to cover this all up, likes dogs burying their own vomit.
To late for that LE.....It's all over social media and it could well make national newspapers.......................It makes you wonder how blindingly stupid some people are though.... a General Election is less than 4 weeks away, Labour are in serious danger of losing a cast iron seat and they decide they want the world to know who the most important couple in Hartlepool are.
Sadly.............Only in Hartlepool
Long may they continue the good work= digging their own grave. If we get a labour MP in Hartlepool it could happen because of the brainwashed masses historical allegiance to labour...a labour party which does not exist in Hartlepool.
Looks like Raymondo has scored an own goal by not listening to the voters in Greatham......
=Labour f**c***
=Tories f**c***
=UKIP served their purpose....and lead by a scouser say no more.
Who's going to be next to destroy their credibility ....?
if that pair had a combined IQ as big as their collective ego we would all be living council tax free ::)
Quote from: akarjl on May 13, 2017, 12: PM
Looks like Raymondo has scored an own goal by not listening to the voters in Greatham......
Dalton P sorry
Who ever does artwork for post this is hilarious ....
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Choking laughing here...
Quote from: Paul Thompson on May 12, 2017, 12: PM
Just as we all hear that Alan Barclay is going to be the next Deputy Chair of Council (and therefore likely successor to the throne next year), you imagine that things cannot get any dafter.
Well, they do !
I have just received the following email :
"I thought you might be interested to know that Christopher and Stephen Akers-Belcher have put in a formal complaint against staff at the Borough Hall on the grounds that they did not hold the doors open for them as they arrived for the Hartlepool Business Awards dinner last night."
I will just leave that one there for a little while to sink in.
Any update on this?
Why would there be?
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 21, 2017, 09: AM
Any update on this?
Reasonable question I would have thought?
One of two ways-
1. Mrs n Mrs continue throwing their hand bags around and demand action Q Have national press picked it up yet?
Or
2. Labour National Cuuumitee poo their pants and tell them to wind their necks in......
Given the size of their egos I would imagine the royal couple couldn't simply let things go.....
So - any updates?
It'll be buried in the misty cemetery of politics at midnight on a moonless night and forgotten, till Burke and Hare dig it up discreetly,some time in the future.
Love to be stood there with a camera next time the royal couple visit the B Hall and hopefully have door slammed in their faces by disgruntled peasants sorry staff.
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 21, 2017, 09: AM
Why would there be?
Evidence that it was a legitimate piece of information.
I get emails from Nigerians all the time.
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 21, 2017, 03: PM
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 21, 2017, 09: AM
Why would there be?
Evidence that it was a legitimate piece of information.
I get emails from Nigerians all the time.
We get posts from you.
Another highly intelligent response.
Aw, thanks.
The OP. FAKE NEWS.
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 21, 2017, 03: PM
I get emails from Nigerians all the time.
Very rare I get any from Africa. My main spammer in The Northern Echo. I have sent several messages that are supposed to get you off their list but they keep sending up to a dozen emails every day. I even add their messages to my 'block' list but they still get through. I have never had this problem with anyone else and have no doubt nominating The Northern Echo as the most persistent spammer I have ever encountered.
Perhaps Coun Thompson will provide some evidence
Rourke's Drift comes to mind, with an alternative outcome.
There's no evidence provided. Until there is we can all accept its untrue. If there was any evidence we'd have seen it by now wouldn't we?
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 22, 2017, 07: AM
There's no evidence provided. Until there is we can all accept its untrue. If there was any evidence we'd have seen it by now wouldn't we?
Seriously what evidence are you expecting? Some poor guy who mans the door at the borough hall going public and loosing his job? The kremlin "morals and ethics team" investigating the king and queen?
After throwing the hand bag around about the "Carpets" demanding doors be opened for him is the sort of behaviour people would believe of the king and his queen. So when repots come in of this type of behaviour people believe it. After all one of them is proven liar- thats why he lost his job. Guilty until proved otherwise.Consequently their credibility continues to sink taking the Kremlin Labour party with them.
Quote from: akarjl on May 22, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 22, 2017, 07: AM
There's no evidence provided. Until there is we can all accept its untrue. If there was any evidence we'd have seen it by now wouldn't we?
Seriously what evidence are you expecting? Some poor guy who mans the door at the borough hall going public and loosing his job? The kremlin "morals and ethics team" investigating the king and queen?
After throwing the hand bag around about the "Carpets" demanding doors be opened for him is the sort of behaviour people would believe of the king and his queen. So when repots come in of this type of behaviour people believe it. After all one of them is proven liar- thats why he lost his job. Guilty until proved otherwise.Consequently their credibility continues to sink taking the Kremlin Labour party with them.
Bullies simple as that, not in the physical sense of course, bullies are often big tubs of lard with hearts the size of a peanut.... power bullies on the other hand use the authority they perceive to hold as a weapon against people in vulnerable positions...... ie. council employees.
I am aware from personal experience that 2 highly thought of and experienced officers were bullied, they chose to move on.
Happy to provide a screenshot of the email that I received. I have, for obvious reasons, blacked out the name of the person who sent it you me.
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Coun Thompson, that will keep me laughing all day.
That's proof is it?
How about I send you an email making an outrageous claim about the Hartlepool Conservative candidate without any proof? I presume you'll put that up on this forum and claim it's genuine etc.
I'm gobsmacked that you think this means anything.
I think you need to read my original post. I never made any claims other than "I have received an email".
So, no evidence. FAKE NEWS.
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 22, 2017, 09: AM
So, no evidence. FAKE NEWS.
bit like your mate bamby and his weapons of mass destruction then :o
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 22, 2017, 09: AM
So, no evidence. FAKE NEWS.
The question is why would you defend these political lepers?
QuoteThe lady ( as in Mrs Scabs?) doth protest too much, methinks
"Scamlet"- sorry couldn't resist .......Hamlet Act 3, Scene 2
Akers-Belcher has adopted the whole "fake news" thing, he was spouting off on facebook calling the idea that removing public questions from full council is up for discussion tomorrow "fake news".
That "fake news" argument was quickly shot down by people who sent him screen shots of the agenda for tomorrow.
When it comes to 'fake news' they could give a master class
remember the purchase o Jacksons Landing and the quick flip - talk about fake news
Quote from: DRiddle on May 22, 2017, 10: AM
Akers-Belcher has adopted the whole "fake news" thing, he was spouting off on facebook calling the idea that removing public questions from full council is up for discussion tomorrow "fake news".
That "fake news" argument was quickly shot down by people who sent him screen shots of the agenda for tomorrow.
To be a good liar you have to be logical,have a decent memory and a semblance of intelligence- oddly it seems people choose not to believe him.
I'm still a little taken aback by the whole claim that he did NOT say the duplicate accounts submitted by MRA were due to a mistake by the charity commission.
Countless people on this site and current (and previous) councillors were there when he said it. It's been mentioned on here hundreds of times over the last 5 years and never once have I heard him try to deny saying it before.
The question which led to the denial is minuted and there's reference to the 'debate' in which he said it also minuted.
I'm told there's even an audio recording of him saying it... ::)
Still, that's probably just more fake news.
We live in strange times politically.
Quote from: DRiddle on May 22, 2017, 01: PM
I'm still a little taken aback by the whole claim that.................
Labour are working to a plan. It is no coincidence this is all happening at once. SD is part of that plan. They are trying to sow doubt and the worst thing anyone can do is engage in minute detailed debate about the issues they are denying. Ignore all the silly one-line posts asking for follow-ups or a simple denial of everything. If 'you' must reply to these shills then best to simply repeat the initial claims in every reply. Get the message out and let the reader make up their own mind.
This is a very basic news-management technique and tying everyone up in responding to the denials is
exactly what they want to doKeep repeating the SCABs 'open door' complaint. It plays exactly to the public perception of the SCABs. It is a very powerful story and it needs no further explanation. Remember that Google searches will find any linkage to the keyword 'Akers-Belcher'. Labour are desperate to link these stories with 'Fake News' and that is why they keep using the words.
Play them at their own game and stop giving SD the means to get his message into Google searches without a link to the original complaints.
In short folks stop being led by the nose and attack the fecking shill rather than responding/ reacting to him.
To echo mk1, but not as eloquently put............ Just Ignore the Pr**k.......plzzzzzz
Just for clarity on this one.
The comment was volunteered by CAB at full council in April 2012 when he stated that the discrepancy over the Manor Residents accounts (2008/09 and 2009/10) was caused by an 'error' on the part of the Charity Commission who had uploaded the same set of accounts twice.
There were two problems with CAB's statement:
1. The Charity Commission aren't responsible for uploading any accounts - that's the task of the charity concerned.
2. Although almost identical, there were a couple of differences between the two sets of accounts (amounting to several thousand pounds, I might add). This was enough to say that the files were not identical and, as all you computer whizzes will know, this means that the two files would have to have different file names. Consequently, the idea that the same file was uploaded twice by anyone is completely false.
What had happened is that a copy of the completed 2008/09 accounts which had been compiled by Ged Hall had been used as a starting point for the 2009/10 accounts. A couple of things were added and then these 'new' accounts, which were nothing of the sort, were uploaded to the Charity Commission by Wilcox.
When the minutes of the April meeting were published in June, prior to the June council meeting, there was no mention of CAB's statement. This was challenged by Geoff Lilley and CAB agreed for the minutes to be amended to include his comment.
The amended minutes didn't appear until July 2012 with the following correction:
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This was part of the exchange between Riddle and CAB last week: (click to enlarge)
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The last post needs no further elucidation. Any post that disputes the detail or questions the veracity should receive a reply that is only the above repeated in or a link to same.
Just a little tip. Including a combination of the words 'Akers Belcher's/doors in a post will catch the attention of Google.
Spot on MK1- another tip goole indexes images furiously.....so if you are uploading an image to here re name it to something like
"akers-belcher demand doorman holds door open for them-1.jpg"
Or "akers-belcher wanted to to stop the public asking questions at council meetings-1.jpg"
Or "labour supports deny Acker-belcher tried to ban questions despite it being documented by council"
Etc
Goole also loves http://blogger.com (http://blogger.com) blogs...free to create.....post a couple of one-liner posts with a link to posts here and the traffic and ranking will come.