Like many people I am desperate to ensure Corbyn does not get into power.
In order to vote tactically to deny him a seat in Hartlepool can anyone shed light on the current polling in the town.
Who is really most likely to unseat Hill, do we know how close either Tory or Brexit candidate are to Labour in the town ?
Quote from: Pragmatist on December 03, 2019, 12: PM
Like many people I am desperate to ensure Corbyn does not get into power.
In order to vote tactically to deny him a seat in Hartlepool can anyone shed light on the current polling in the town.
Who is really most likely to unseat Hill, do we know how close either Tory or Brexit candidate are to Labour in the town ?
Reckon the Brexit Party has the better chance of toppling Hill.
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on December 03, 2019, 01: PM
Quote from: Pragmatist on December 03, 2019, 12: PM
Like many people I am desperate to ensure Corbyn does not get into power.
In order to vote tactically to deny him a seat in Hartlepool can anyone shed light on the current polling in the town.
Who is really most likely to unseat Hill, do we know how close either Tory or Brexit candidate are to Labour in the town ?
Reckon the Brexit Party has the better chance of toppling Hill.
I agree
Brexit Party appear to be the only one making an effort and I say that as somebody not keen on the party, so no favouritism.
Brexit Party = Hugh Grant with extra slick hair dressing
Labour Party = Forest Gump without the chocolates
SLP = Kim Jong-un from behind
Conservative - AWOL then again I don't frequent West Park
Independent = non runner with a broken leg in in 3:30 at Sedgefield
Hartlepool has to choose the least worst again ...lucky us.
I'll cut the numbers down for you, there are only 2 real horses in The Race and they are Mike Hill Labour Party and Richard Tice Brexit Party.
How you Vote depends on what you personally want from your MP.
If you want a member of parliament that follows the party line, even if that line is contrary to the majority of the electorates opinion then Mike Hill is your man.
If you want a member of parliament who is prepared to carry out the wishes of the people who voted to put him into office Richard Tice is your man.
In normal circumstances, Mike Hill would come second if he stood unopposed, but.... it's Tice or Hickory.
Cue Lib Dem claiming he has a chance, but no he doesn't.
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 04: PM
If you want a member of parliament who is prepared to carry out the wishes of the people who voted to put him into office Richard
For example he will 'restore' the fishing fleet to Hartlepool and that is a cast iron certainty?
Quote from: mk1 on December 03, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 04: PM
If you want a member of parliament who is prepared to carry out the wishes of the people who voted to put him into office Richard
For example he will 'restore' the fishing fleet to Hartlepool and that is a cast iron certainty?
Who Cranney....?
This is rather good. https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3Q51xdhmejvU24A9JocBuvmb5KVaxCrGvdIUYHPfqXs8F8R5pI6qzi_ss
Quote from: mk1 on December 03, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 04: PM
If you want a member of parliament who is prepared to carry out the wishes of the people who voted to put him into office Richard
For example he will 'restore' the fishing fleet to Hartlepool and that is a cast iron certainty?
I don't see you questioning Mike Hill's proclamations of intent, unless of course he's waiting to be told what they are.
Quote from: mk1 on December 03, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 04: PM
If you want a member of parliament who is prepared to carry out the wishes of the people who voted to put him into office Richard
For example he will 'restore' the fishing fleet to Hartlepool and that is a cast iron certainty?
I never mentioned fishing fleets...... I merely pointed out the fact that if voters wanted a candidate to act on the will of the 69% of the people of Hartlepool, it would be Richard Tice.
I'll be surprised if Tice doesn't win the majority vote.
People are annoyed about Brexit not happening, and labour voters are very much put off by the idea of a second referendum. I really don't see it going labour's way in Hartlepool.
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 07: PM
I never mentioned fishing fleets......
Tice did.
You say he will carry out 'the wishes of the people who vote for him' and given he said he would bring back the fishing boats
then people will have voted for him expecting him to do just that.
I do not believe he can deliver. I doubt anyone who knows about the subject believe he can do it so my question is what is the point of voting for a Politician who can not/will not deliver on his promises?
By all means say that 'someone else deserves a chance' instead of introducing reasons to make it
seem like the voting decision was based on realistic policy expectations.
Besides it is blindingly obvious 90% of the support for Tice is all about one single issue.
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 07: PM
.........the will of the 69% of the people of Hartlepool..........,
The will of 69% of the 66% who voted. Which is the will of 46% of the people of Hartlepool. All done in my head and thus not absolutely accurate.
Quote from: mk1 on December 03, 2019, 07: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 07: PM
I never mentioned fishing fleets......
Tice did.
You say he will carry out 'the wishes of the people who vote for him' and given he said he would bring back the fishing boats
then people will have voted for him expecting him to do just that.
I do not believe he can deliver. I doubt anyone who knows about the subject believe he can do it so my question is what is the point of voting for a Politician who can not/will not deliver on his promises?
By all means say that 'someone else deserves a chance' instead of introducing reasons to make it seem like the voting decision was based on realistic policy expectations.
Besides it is blindingly obvious 90% of the support for Tice is all about one single issue.
Good God, ring the church bells the penny's finally dropped. Of course it is.
Quote from: fred c on December 03, 2019, 07: PM
.........the will of the 69% of the people of Hartlepool..........,
The will of 69% of the 66% who voted. Which is the will of 46% of the people of Hartlepool. All done in my head and thus not absolutely accurate.
Remainers are noted for their creative accounting when it comes to elections. Even if you use your mathematical slight of hand, the remain vote will be even less because you arrogantly assume anyone who isn't for Brexit is against it. You can't have it both ways but even both ways your side lost big time again.
Your maths like your politics are painfully selective.
Another approach
Don't turn out and vote.......it would be hilarious if we got the lowest turnout in Britain ......and Labour got shafted......
"The will of 69% of the 66% who voted. Which is the will of 46% of the people of Hartlepool. All done in my head and thus not absolutely accurate."
Yep you got it 69% of the 66% that voted......I can't see how even you can include the 34% who didn't bother to get their a***'s out to vote.
69% voted leave....31% voted remain......34% didn't bother to vote.
That's democracy for you
correct
Quote from: fred c on December 04, 2019, 07: AM
I can't see how even you can include the 34% who didn't bother to get their a***'s out to vote.
69% voted leave....31% voted remain......34% didn't bother to vote.
That's democracy for you
In rounded numbers so not
100% accurate:
46% voted Leave.
21% voted stay
34% did not vote.
Thats maths for you.
No, that's manipulative maths from you and your remain friends. You know the system is based on those who vote and to try this con is a sign of desperation. Doubtless if the figures were reversed 2016 you'd look like the cat who got the cream with every justification...But you didn't you lost. The cat who got the mouses tail and it's still stuck in your craw.
46% voted Leave.
21% voted stay
34% did not vote.
So 46% voted to leave......21% voted to remain......Ok so we can count the 67% of the electorate that bothered to vote.
So 34% couldn't be bothered to vote, so why do we need to incorporate the 34% of non participating individuals into any equation about a decision that requires a vote to come to a conclusion on how to formulate a policy
Quote from: fred c on December 04, 2019, 12: PM
So 34% couldn't be bothered to vote, so why do we need to incorporate the 34% of non participating individuals into any equation about a decision that requires a vote to come to a conclusion on how to formulate a policy
Nowt new. It's just muddying the waters, builds*#t baffles brains logic, beloved of the 'I lost but the majority are wrong' congregation of the church of remain.
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It's just muddying the waters................................
............so why do we need to incorporate the 34% of non participating individuals.................
............. that's manipulative maths...................
One has to wonder why the long-established (and politically neutral) rules of arithmetic are under attack. I guess if you are convinced you are part of a mythical '
overwhelming majority' evidence to the contrary is always going to come as a bit of a shock.
am i the only one missing something here those figures add up to 101% ::)
I agree with Kevplumb 101%.
You got it wrong again mk1. According to the rules of arithmetic 100% is the max. At least it was in my school. I suppose if you have a degree, that's close enough.
Quote from: kevplumb on December 04, 2019, 02: PM
am i the only one missing something here............
Yes you did indeed miss something. This:
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 09: AM
In rounded numbers so not 100% accurate:
Though it is the average no one has ever had 2.4 children.
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on December 04, 2019, 03: PM
According to the rules of arithmetic 100% is the max. At least it was in my school. I suppose if you have a degree, that's close enough.
Perhaps swapping a good pair of reading glasses for the degree might be a better option?
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 01: PM
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It's just muddying the waters................................
............so why do we need to incorporate the 34% of non participating individuals.................
............. that's manipulative maths...................
One has to wonder why the long-established (and politically neutral) rules of arithmetic are under attack. I guess if you are convinced you are part of a mythical 'overwhelming majority' evidence to the contrary is always going to come as a bit of a shock.
The 'long established and politically neutral rules of mathematics' are being twisted by YOU to suit your own agenda.
Doubtless you think it's clever but only you think it.
I note your reference to the 'overwhelming' majority, your contempt bubbles as you imagine yourself as some enlightened Don Quixote figure tilting at the Windmill of the the great unwashed. I doubt but you'd ever be part of any overwhelming majority, you appear to believe you are above that sort of thing..
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 03: PM
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on December 04, 2019, 03: PM
According to the rules of arithmetic 100% is the max. At least it was in my school. I suppose if you have a degree, that's close enough.
Perhaps swapping a good pair of reading glasses for the degree might be a better option?
Depends what the degree is in.
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 03: PM
Though it is the average no one has ever had 2.4 children.
When it comes to intelligence I can think of at least one politician in aaartlepool (hint) who's parents did= not a full shilling....
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 04, 2019, 05: PM
When it comes to intelligence I can think of at least one politician in aaartlepool (hint) who's parents did= not a full shilling....
You don't get out much do you?
Most of the politicians in Hartlepool are of limited intellect. The SCAB Cabal barely reach double-digit IQ as a group and the UKIP councillors were hilariously thick. Politics has become so tribal that blind loyalty to a single issue/party/ movement is the only thing that matters and if that means you have to do and say obviously stupid things for your cause then stupid things will be done and defended to the death no matter how blatant the stupidity.
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 06: PM
You don't get out much do you?
I'll have you know I was along Seaton beach this morning with the dog......
...and I've been to 11 countries in last twelve months......
Sort of beats your senior citizen return ticket to York......... ;)
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 04, 2019, 06: PM
...and I've been to 11 countries in last twelve months......
It is a long journey from Turkey to the UK. Hope your asylum application is successful.
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 04, 2019, 06: PM
...and I've been to 11 countries in last twelve months......
It is a long journey from Turkey to the UK. Hope your asylum application is successful.
British West Hartlepool is careful about who they allow in but I never have any issues ;)
Quote from: mk1 on December 04, 2019, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 04, 2019, 05: PM
When it comes to intelligence I can think of at least one politician in aaartlepool (hint) who's parents did= not a full shilling....
The SCAB Cabal barely reach double-digit IQ as a group
Thick as you say they are, they had no trouble taking over the local Labour Party, so what does that say about the local Labour Party.....?
.... and the UKIP councillors were hilariously thick.
You should know, you should be on first name terms with them, you've stalked them for years
Politics has become so tribal that blind loyalty to a single issue/party/ movement is the only thing that matters and if that means you have to do and say obviously stupid things for your cause then stupid things will be done and defended to the death no matter how blatant the stupidity.
You are talking about yourself and referring to your loyalty to the remain cause I assume?
Anyway back to my question
Can anybody get some data on current polling so us tactical voters can work out how best to remove Hill.
Btw Labour canvassers our today acknowledge Tice as main threat ( and that Corbyn is a complete liability on doorstep)
Any data??
Just my gut reaction but i think any candidate that spends some time in last few days in Hartlepool who can string a sentence together and is pro brexit will probably first over the line. Which probably means Tice if he makes the effort.
lib demo remain
cranny- retarded
conservatives- never seen sight nor sound
labour gutless
IF and it is a big if Hill grows some and claims he will support Bonrises deal he may swing it.
if the i have always voted labour mentality prevails the the town deserves everything it gets- nothing.
Hard to come up with statistics, as the likes of the Electoral Calculus use data from previous elections in their predictions - and the Brexit party didn't exist in 2017. Still, I agree with Akarjl2 that Hill's main oppo is Tice.
Hill's main threat is Hill.
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 04, 2019, 09: PM
Hill's main threat is Hill.
have to agree he makes cranney sound sensible and that takes some doing ;D ;D
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 04, 2019, 09: PM
Hill's main threat is Hill.
Express thinks otherwise
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1210217/general-election-news-brexit-party-richard-tice-hartlepool-leave-vote-labour-party
a parliamentary procedure expert, has predicted that by running in the Leave area, Mr Tice is actually ensuring Labour will retain the seat. He also hit out at Nigel Farage for not "bowing out with grace" and risking a Tory majority by standing Brexit Party candidates in battleground seats...............
The chairman of Hartlepool's Conservative party hit out at Mr Farage for effectively handing the seat to Labour.
Ray Martin-Wells said the two pro-Brexit parties would "take each other out" and relinquish a once in a generation chance to remove Labour MPs in the north-east heartland.
The former councillor said he was "surprised and disappointed that [Mr Farage] will effectively hand seats to Labour who clearly don't want to support Brexit".
He added: "I think if we had a clear run at it we'd have a strong chance – Boris is a straight-talker which goes down very well in Hartlepool – but if the Brexit Party stand we will just take each other out."
Suppose it makes a change for the Express - a change from from Niburu being about to knock the planet into oblivion.
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 04, 2019, 09: PM
Hill's main threat is Hill.
Express thinks otherwise
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1210217/general-election-news-brexit-party-richard-tice-hartlepool-leave-vote-labour-party
a parliamentary procedure expert, has predicted that by running in the Leave area, Mr Tice is actually ensuring Labour will retain the seat. He also hit out at Nigel Farage for not "bowing out with grace" and risking a Tory majority by standing Brexit Party candidates in battleground seats...............
The chairman of Hartlepool's Conservative party hit out at Mr Farage for effectively handing the seat to Labour.
Ray Martin-Wells said the two pro-Brexit parties would "take each other out" and relinquish a once in a generation chance to remove Labour MPs in the north-east heartland.
The former councillor said he was "surprised and disappointed that [Mr Farage] will effectively hand seats to Labour who clearly don't want to support Brexit".
He added: "I think if we had a clear run at it we'd have a strong chance – Boris is a straight-talker which goes down very well in Hartlepool – but if the Brexit Party stand we will just take each other out."
Rearrange
..... AT.... DESPERATLEY.... STRAWS....CLUTCHING.
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 04, 2019, 09: PM
Hill's main threat is Hill.
Express thinks otherwise
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1210217/general-election-news-brexit-party-richard-tice-hartlepool-leave-vote-labour-party
a parliamentary procedure expert, has predicted that by running in the Leave area, Mr Tice is actually ensuring Labour will retain the seat. He also hit out at Nigel Farage for not "bowing out with grace" and risking a Tory majority by standing Brexit Party candidates in battleground seats...............
The chairman of Hartlepool's Conservative party hit out at Mr Farage for effectively handing the seat to Labour.
Ray Martin-Wells said the two pro-Brexit parties would "take each other out" and relinquish a once in a generation chance to remove Labour MPs in the north-east heartland.
The former councillor said he was "surprised and disappointed that [Mr Farage] will effectively hand seats to Labour who clearly don't want to support Brexit".
He added: "I think if we had a clear run at it we'd have a strong chance – Boris is a straight-talker which goes down very well in Hartlepool – but if the Brexit Party stand we will just take each other out."
Haha, I have to disagree with this so called 'expert'.
I agree that there will always be a relatively healthy labour vote in the town, unfortunately. However it is far from being infallible.
This is going to be an interesting election, that's for sure.
Quote from: diSme on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
Haha, I have to disagree with this so called 'expert'.
Apparently you are not the only one who doubts the 'experts'. I was at the ramp today and near the alky seat there was a table set up with some people with bright blue hats bothering shoppers. I listened in on the conversations and a member of the public (who made the fatal mistake of pausing when approached) was told not to take any notice of the opinion polls as they had secret info that 'their' share of the vote was being massively undercounted and they were going to win big time in many seats. Another person was informed that 'Tice' was going to bring 'massive' investment to the town (going to invest his tax-evasion money back into the town?) and many firms were just waiting for his election to flood the town with well paid jobs. In the end I could not work out who was more addled. The bickering drunks and addicts on my left or the delusional blue-hat propagandists to my right!
YOU ARE THE EXPERT, YOU ARE THE ORACLE OF THE GODS...next time you're talking to them how about asking them the lottery numbers and give the Brexit crap a pass. Thanking you in anticipation.
Cue yet another unfunny YouTube clip.
I can't begin to guess what mk1 will post about after Brexit is all over, whichever way it turns out.
Quote from: fred c on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
I can't begin to guess what mk1 will post about after Brexit is all over, whichever way it turns out.
Oh I think you do know what I will be posting. I have been careful not to back any horse in the current races. No mater who wins I have no emotional involvement in the result. I will not be on suicide watch if my prefered carpetbagger is rejected. However those who made predictions that turn out to be wrong are going to have to get used to their words coming back to haunt them.
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
I can't begin to guess what mk1 will post about after Brexit is all over, whichever way it turns out.
Oh I think you do know what I will be posting. I have been careful not to back any horse in the current races. No mater who wins I have no emotional involvement in the result. I will not be on suicide watch if my prefered carpetbagger is rejected. However those who made predictions that turn out to be wrong are going to have to get used to their words coming back to haunt them.
Like anyone really cares....it's a small forum read by a small minority mostly to to snigger at your obsession with the brexit party ;)
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
I can't begin to guess what mk1 will post about after Brexit is all over, whichever way it turns out.
Oh I think you do know what I will be posting.
Is the sea wet
I have been careful not to back any horse in the current races.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ooooh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho chortle, chortle ha ha ha ha ha ha
No mater who wins I have no emotional involvement in the result.
I know Daleks find it hard to express emotions
I will not be on suicide watch if my prefered carpetbagger is rejected.
Like anybody cares
However those who made predictions that turn out to be wrong are going to have to get used to their words coming back to haunt them.
You'll be talking in an echo chamber. No one gives a toss, you'll rewrite history to suit your own agenda anyway. Just soooo1984.
Quote from: fred c on December 05, 2019, 05: PM
I can't begin to guess what mk1 will post about after Brexit is all over, whichever way it turns out.
Fred, mikeyboy's condition as being a fully diagnosed BDS sufferer, although incurable, is actually substitutable in that once Brexit inevitably becomes a reality, he will just switch his myopic, ad nauseum, virtue signalling, narrow minded views over to any other anally focused pursuits. Maybe it will involve his inexhaustible expertise on Toy-town traffic management, maybe he'll get a gig as Marketing Director for out of date YouTube clips. Or hopefully (Oh please G, please!!) he'll just retire and crawl back to his vegan-themed allotment in greatham. We can only hope!
(mikeyboy.....do you wake up in a cold sweat now and again, and tremble when you imagine that over in the corner inside that big mysterious wardrobe, all those slavvering, bong-eyed loonies might one night escape and break through your garlic protection shield?)
COME ON TICE!
60 years of tossers and nowt to show for it.
Time for a change.
Time for the least worst!
Quote from: Hubris on December 05, 2019, 08: PM
Time for the least worst!
I must admit I am coming round to the same opinion.....unfortunately Conservatives have no chance and anything that pisses Labour off is really satisfiying.
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 05, 2019, 08: PM
Quote from: Hubris on December 05, 2019, 08: PM
Time for the least worst!
I must admit I am coming round to the same opinion.....unfortunately Conservatives have no chance and anything that pisses Labour off is really satisfiying.
So, go for Tice. What do you lose?
I can almost sense you are just about there akarjl2.
Go on. Just do it! You'll feel better, and tell your many friends to do the same. We are on countdown now and no time to lose.
"7 Days To Save Hartlepool"
(Oh by the way, can't fully agree with your idea of being so cheesed-off with our politicos that you'd either not vote at all or even maybe spoil your ballot. Our democratic principles were hard fought for and it's what makes us better than all those sh****le countries we know and recognise. No vote is a wasted vote. Even if sometimes it's given to the 'least worst'. I'm sure you'll do the right thing for Hartlepool)
People that keep voting Labour in this town (because they don't like the opposition) remind me of children that don't like broccoli, even though they have never tasted it!
We have had 60 years of Labour in Hartlepool. >:( >:(
Wake up, smell the coffee, it hasn't worked for this town, possibly because some of the Cllrs have been in it for themselves and not for the townsfolk. >:(
A perfect example is the lying, conniving Labour Cllr that (finally) ended up in prison. How long did that take? How many times were warnings given to the council top brass and other Cllrs?
The outcry was ignored, excuses given, Labour Cllrs commented that all was well, as she kept embezzling money from OUR coffers.
That is what Labour has done for this town, screwed us. >:(
For crying out loud, keep voting for the same thing and, ergo, you get the same thing!
Have a taste of the broccoli folks...it won't poison you, it may even make you feel good about the town again. :)
Vote for change...vote for a fresh face...vote Brexit, for the good of the town, our children and grand-children. :) :)
Tice on Question Time has just been told off because he kept interrupting a woman on the panel. I posted another example of him doing the same to another woman a while back.
https://youtu.be/uT5I9Hldx04?t=354
Woman, know your place .........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-vQkEiT4ug
Quote from: grim reaper on December 05, 2019, 10: PM
A perfect example is the lying, conniving Labour Cllr that (finally) ended up in prison. How long did that take? How many times were warnings given to the council top brass and other Cllrs?
A council that was run as a Lab/Tory Pact in which Tory councillors were given complete control of all planning in the town. Some people got very rich because of that gerrymander. By all means call out the corrupt but do not try and portray it as a problem confined to just one party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeE-YoU2o3c
OK so that was 5 minutes of my morning wasted.......what point are you trying to make? The video was a solid argument for not voting labour. Does that mean you have come round to the Brexit party way of thinking or at very least Conservative both of which mean Brexit? Hoorah!
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 11: PM
Tice on Question Time has just been told off because he kept interrupting a woman on the panel. I posted another example of him doing the same to another woman a while back.
An amateur in the ego bursting disruption stakes when compared to you.
That's all your here for as you now admit, so you have something in common with Mr Tice.
Quote from: mk1 on December 05, 2019, 11: PM
A council that was run as a Lab/Tory Pact in which Tory councillors were given complete control of all planning in the town. Some people got very rich because of that gerrymander. By all means call out the corrupt but do not try and portray it as a problem confined to just one party.
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When you've been in the grip of Labour for 60 years, what other Party was there running the town? I think you should tell us.
That said, you have become rather Labour protective of late. Damascus conversion?
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 06, 2019, 06: AM
OK so that was 5 minutes of my morning wasted.......what point are you trying to make? The video was a solid argument for not voting labour. Does that mean you have come round to the Brexit party way of thinking or at very least Conservative both of which mean Brexit? Hoorah!
He's like the North Korean Ministry of Political Education and Propaganda, devoid of imagination. Without YouTube he would be unable to make contact with us and like all true propagandists is selective and humourless, working on the principle of perpetually banging out the same old crap, claiming the moral high ground and waiting for us all to come round to his view or disappear from
his world(the board ::))
A disruptor.
Hear Farage here threatening Boris saying that if he (Boris) does not do what Nigel demands then The Brexit Party will run in every UK seat in the GE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSf3GCu9mU
And this brilliant negotiator can be seen here holding up the white flag after Boris called his bluff and Farage realising his plunging poll numbers would wipe out his party, made pathetic excuses to explain his humiliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKy-4MEdDVk
'You hear what you want to hear and disregard the rest'. As the song goes.
Do all these Brexit pics excite you.....?
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 06, 2019, 02: PM
Do all these Brexit pics excite you.....?
Yep I am unmasked. No fooling you Sherlock
Phoarrrr.............
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/gZO0Zs.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plgZO0Zsj)
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 06, 2019, 07: AM
That's all your here for as you now admit,
I always admit to error. For instance when I read this:
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 05, 2019, 03: PM
....since buses are............ rammed with druggies and retards
I was convinced it was hyperbole but decided to check it out before trying to correct. Turns out it was spot on. I was wrong and he was right. Buses are indeed rammed with 'retards' (sic).
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/fWMc1s.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plfWMc1sj)
Careful your future MP has his fan boy providing "eyes and ears" here.....this will not work out well when you apply for membership of Brexit Party.
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 06, 2019, 05: PM
Careful your future MP has his fan boy providing "eyes and ears" here.............
That is how Shane came here. He was Ray Well's gopher and he spent all his energy defending every action of his master. He was called 'The Shadow' back then and his admiration for Ray knew no bounds. 'Bromance' did not even come close. It all went pear-shaped when 'The Shadow' got a bit above himself and thought he deserved some say on forming Tory Policy. That did not go down well with Ray who had stuffed the Local Party with his relatives and so had in effect made the Party his own private Property. The Shadow became the Saddo and deprived of a path to higher office he left and became a UKIP Loony. Personally I think that he would have been better off under Ray than having to deal with the UKIP Councillors because they were very dim-witted people indeed. A good move career-wise because in the world of the blind the one-eyed man is King. Lots of indians milling about looking for a Chief.
Heard it all before, it was boring then and it's boring now.
Full disclosure- contents of labour manifesto revealed.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/1949/KsZBjp.jpg)
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 07, 2019, 08: AM
Full disclosure- contents of labour manifesto revealed.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/1949/KsZBjp.jpg)
He's highlighted the bits they can't afford with a black highlighter pen.