Fed up Labour Party Member

[ARC86]

Is it just me or are there others out there? Just what exactly is going on with Hartlepool CLP? First they curb free speech then they expel two very good councillors for standing up for everything that the Labour Party stands for! At the same time backing a councillor who is clearly out of her depth!! What are others' thoughts on the local labour group? As someone who was considering standing as a Labour candidate at the next local elections I don't feel able to do so given the direction were headed at present!

[Stevef]

I seriously doubt you are on your own here. The local Labour group are now 'Labour' in name only. They have long since abandoned any real interest in bettering the lot of working people and now seem to dedicate themselves to pursuit of self interest.

This is something they pursue with a reckless arrogance and with a total disregard for the wishes of the people they claim to represent or the consequence's for the town.

As someone who has always stood left of the centre in politics, I shudder to think what the founders of the Labour Party would make of them.

[for fawkes sake]

I wonder if it's just our local Labour group or is it something more common. The North East has many towns where the local Labour Party has a stranglehold. Does this always lead to complacency and the arrogance of power as it has done in Hartlepool?

It's a pity we aren't really in a position to make comparisons.

[stokoe]

I wonder if it's just our local Labour group or is it something more common. The North East has many towns where the local Labour Party has a stranglehold. Does this always lead to complacency and the arrogance of power as it has done in Hartlepool?

It's a pity we aren't really in a position to make comparisons.
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Grandad did dad did so ill vote for them............lambs come to mind.

Just talking about hartlepool btw.

[fred c]

ARC........ spend a few hours reading the posts on this site, you will find it bares no resemblance to the Mails coverage, you will also find that the sheer weight of facts, figures & opinions can`t all be anti labour propaganda.

After the last Full Council Meeting the Hartlepool Labour party are morally bankrupt, they can vote to Ban Public Questions, but don`t have a problem offering support to a councillor who`s organisation pays less then the NMW & has also been arrested on a charge of perverting the course of justice.

Principles, Integrity & Socialist Values are in very short supply within "The Mob", but there are signs that the people of Hartlepool are at last waking up to the reality of life under "Mob Rule".

[norfolkngoode]

I wonder if it's just our local Labour group or is it something more common. The North East has many towns where the local Labour Party has a stranglehold. Does this always lead to complacency and the arrogance of power as it has done in Hartlepool?

It's a pity we aren't really in a position to make comparisons.
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Grandad did dad did so ill vote for them............lambs come to mind.

Just talking about hartlepool btw.

Aye thats me.... Voted Labour from the age of 18 because my dad did. He wasnt politically active but he was very interested in local politics, and very supportive of the Labour party.
I'm sure he would however, have second thoughts about voting for them now if he was still around to witness the disgraceful shenanigans that go on in Hartlepool.
I've learnt my lesson though.... I havent voted Labour for donkeys years neither locally or nationally, and I cant see me ever voting for them again.

[DRiddle]

Just for those that may be interested, I wrote to Iain Wright expressing very similar concerns to those referred to in the opening post. I explained in my letter that, in my opinion, the last few months of the local 'labour' party in Hartlepool was not really anywhere near true Labour, as the party was initially intended to represent.

I stated that it was bordering on a shambles and an embarrassment to the party name. I expressed concerns that Iain's seat might be under threat due to the actions of a few, and the failure to act on said actions by the 'leadership'.

I received a written reply, which to be fair to Iain was polite and thanked me for highlighting the issues.

Literally A few days later, he, and a few Labour councillors were door knocking in my ward canvassing.

I'm not sure if anyone really took my words seriously, and I guess with Hartlepool being a safe Labour seat for more than half a century, it would take a major shift in public opinion for my warnings to be proved to be correct.

However.... stranger things have happened. In my opinion, every day which goes by that Ms Wilcox remains part of HBC is another nail in the Labour coffin in this town.

Time will tell if i'm right.

[marky]

Perhaps we give it more credence than it deserves. We give it the description 'local politics' but perhaps it is nothing more than a throw-back to basic tribalism. Perhaps people join a particular party because of basic beliefs but pretty soon these become secondary to the defence and well-being of the tribe.

Some times those basic beliefs conflict with the best interests of the tribe and the latter takes precedent.

Whichever way you look at it, whatever it is we have being practiced in the town, it isn't people looking after the best interests of others, it's people looking after themselves.

Actually, I've just read the new story and it just seems to confirm everything I've just said.

http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/labours%20secret%20back%20door%20pay%20plan.htm

[tankerville]

I was say in my car this afternoon and listened in to RADIO HARTLEPOOL lo and behold there was a plug for the Labour Party and it's new Chairman speaking of openness & transparency inviting all and sundry to contact him for any and all issues regarding Hartlepool Council.

I wonder who is up for selection in 2014 Elections from Radio Hartlepool?

It's following the same route as HARTLEPOOL LABOUR MAIL

[marky]

Several grants from HBC over the years I believe and doesn't Ged Hall do the accounts or sit on the board or something
same old, same old.....

[mk1]

I was say in my car this afternoon and listened in to RADIO HARTLEPOOL lo and behold there was a plug for the Labour Party and it's new Chairman speaking of openness & transparency inviting all and sundry to contact him for any and all issues regarding Hartlepool Council.

I wonder who is up for selection in 2014 Elections from Radio Hartlepool?

Well DJ  Jason just got a job at Manor Residents. Given his history of running fixed listener Competitions so his mate can win,  not paying his workers, dodging bills and making comments of a sexual nature to a fellow Police Officer and being forced to resign for it I say he fits in well with all the other freaks.

[fred c]

Reading the front page article this paragraph jumped out at me.

At the same time, it was agreed amongst the Labour councillors that the Group would push to introduce the 'living wage' for all council staff as soon as possible and the first step in this process would be to put aside any money saved by not immediately increasing the basic allowance into a money-pot to fund the living wage.


I wonder if ms Wilcox agrees with this policy, or would she prefer to pay the same rates as a member of her MR staff received.

[ARC86]

Im so fed up with this lot who are here right now.. my ill feeling started when the party started campaigning for the committee system, when it is national policy to have elected mayors where possible.

fred c I wasn't even aware of this site until a couple of weeks ago but the balance on here and the investigative stuff is superb and really holds those in power too account.

DRiddle I was thinking of doing exactly the same, but know it is pretty much pointless! Are you a Labour Member? At the end of the day i'm paying my dues at the minute to something which i can no longer support!

We could start a revolution i suppose!

[not4me]

I think they've come off the rails but that doesn't mean that people won't go on blindly voting for them

[ARC86]

not4me This member won't be doing so, but your right plenty of others will