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Title: Hypocrites all
Post by: grim reaper on June 29, 2020, 02: PM
In the 1950's, Cambridge University hit the headlines, when the 'spy ring' was discovered. Five supposedly loyal people were discovered to be secret communists and selling our State 'secrets' to the Russians.

I believe our universities are still a hotbed of Marxist, ultra-left wing traitors, operating under many guises;
Extinction Rebellion, Climate Change, Black lives Matter UK, Workers Revolutionary Party, Communist League etc etc.

The manifesto of the Black Lives Matter UK includes closing prisons, defunding the police, bringing an end to capitalism etc.
It surely amounts to sedition and anarchy?

The latest outrage from Cambridge Uni is an Indian lecturer, Priyamvada Gopal. She tweeted " White lives don't matter".
There was an uproar.
However, she has now been promoted to 'Professor'.

She gets promoted, the guy that arranged for a banner over Burnley football ground stating "White lives matter", was sacked from his factory job. What is going on here?

How is it ok for a BAME person to say one thing and is promoted, when a white person carries out a similar act in reverse, he is sacked?

Lewis Hamilton is the latest to join the woke team. He states the Colston statue (and all the rest) should be removed as they are tainted by slavery in the past.
His team, Mercedes, are owned by Daimler Benz and in 1944 they had 46 thousand forced slave labourers in their factories, working against their will, for Hitler's war efforts.
In 1988, Daimler Benz had to pay $12 million in reparation to the labourers and families.

Will Lewis Hamilton now rip off his Mercedes badges and retire from the company that made money from slavery?
That was only 75 years ago...he and his ilk are trying to destabilise this country over something that occurred (across the world) 400 years ago and the UK was a leader in having slavery banned!
A tad hypocritical Mr H.

ALL lives matter and we should all live and work together but it will never happen whilst the devious underbelly plots against one of the best, democratic countries in the world.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on June 29, 2020, 02: PM
Completely agree.

However Que MK1 steps in and educates you-watch this space ;)
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 29, 2020, 02: PM
In the 1950's, Cambridge University hit the headlines, when the 'spy ring' was discovered. Five supposedly loyal people were discovered to be secret communists and selling our State 'secrets' to the Russians.

I believe our universities are still a hotbed of Marxist, ultra-left wing traitors, operating under many guises;
Extinction Rebellion, Climate Change, Black lives Matter UK, Workers Revolutionary Party, Communist League etc etc.

The manifesto of the Black Lives Matter UK includes closing prisons, defunding the police, bringing an end to capitalism etc.
It surely amounts to sedition and anarchy?

The latest outrage from Cambridge Uni is an Indian lecturer, Priyamvada Gopal. She tweeted " White lives don't matter".
There was an uproar.
However, she has now been promoted to 'Professor'.

She gets promoted, the guy that arranged for a banner over Burnley football ground stating "White lives matter", was sacked from his factory job. What is going on here?

How is it ok for a BAME person to say one thing and is promoted, when a white person carries out a similar act in reverse, he is sacked?

Lewis Hamilton is the latest to join the woke team. He states the Colston statue (and all the rest) should be removed as they are tainted by slavery in the past.
His team, Mercedes, are owned by Daimler Benz and in 1944 they had 46 thousand forced slave labourers in their factories, working against their will, for Hitler's war efforts.
In 1988, Daimler Benz had to pay $12 million in reparation to the labourers and families.

Will Lewis Hamilton now rip off his Mercedes badges and retire from the company that made money from slavery?
That was only 75 years ago...he and his ilk are trying to destabilise this country over something that occurred (across the world) 400 years ago and the UK was a leader in having slavery banned!
A tad hypocritical Mr H.

ALL lives matter and we should all live and work together but it will never happen whilst the devious underbelly plots against one of the best, democratic countries in the world.

Whats up cupcake? Triggered because  BLM are setting the agenda and making real changes everywhere?  The movement is a stunning success and real change is happening even in the deepest deep  south of America.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mississippi-state-flag-remove-confederate-battle-emblem/

Your world is crumbling and good riddance to it.

Here is the considered opinion of one of your compatriots-a man so thick he conflate  BLM with BHS!

https://youtu.be/YBWdwWoYZTw?t=141
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 29, 2020, 02: PM


I believe our universities are still a hotbed of Marxist, ultra-left wing traitors, operating under many guises;
Extinction Rebellion, Climate Change, Black lives Matter UK, Workers Revolutionary Party, Communist League etc etc.



I believe right-wing fruitcakes are far more dangerous. Like this British group who were planning to attack US soldiers and, like you, falsely  pin the blame on 'Extinction Rebellion, Climate Change, Black lives Matter UK, Workers Revolutionary Party, Communist League etc etc'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/22/us-soldier-plot-british-neo-nazi-group-to-attack-own-unit



A US Army soldier was plotting with a British occultist neo-Nazi group to attack and kill members of his own military unit, according to a newly unsealed indictment by the Department of Justice.

Ethan Melzer, a 22-year old army private from Louisville, Kentucky, has been charged with conspiring and attempting to murder US nationals, conspiring and attempting to murder military service members, providing and attempting to provide material support to terrorists, and conspiring to murder and maim in a foreign country, the department announced on Monday.


These far-right loonies are the real danger.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2020, 09: PM
For the cavemen who cant work out what BLM means:

https://youtu.be/N2GQnnAJFL0?t=122
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on June 29, 2020, 09: PM
QuoteMK1 steps in and educates you-watch this space ;)

He's so reliable.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2020, 10: PM
BLM has won the battle for Hearts & Minds. In the USA there has been a huge swell of support and the pot-bellied old white males are beside themselves with rage. Yesterday's men fighting yesterdays wars.  Losers who  refuse to accept reality.   

http://www.allusanewshub.com/2020/06/28/majority-of-americans-agree-with-black-lives-matter-cbs-news-poll-finds/


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Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 29, 2020, 11: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 29, 2020, 02: PM
the guy that arranged for a banner over Burnley football ground stating "White lives matter", was sacked from his factory job.



Here is the bloke with Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson the well know far-right racist. You lie with dogs...................

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Sample writings of this 'non-racist' man:

The Burnley supporter had posted a string of offensive comments on Facebook, including a recent post that read: 'Why would anyone in their right mind pay £90 for the new England shirt when it probably cost a company full of tree swinging spear throwers about 80p to make? Not a chance I'm paying that.........................'What a f***ing day! P**i security guard puts some handcuffs on me and says you've been caught sniffing coke in the toilets and then he let me go and said sorry, wrong person. W***er! Longside Burnley!'

Months later he added: 'Laugh to myself everytime I think of all the people who have suddenly realised how much of a mess this country is, I used to get s*** for liking Tommy Robinson when everyone just wrote him off as a racist but now everyone seems to understand him.'.'




Seems his girlfriend is 'not a racist' as well:

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Separately, a company in Burnley said it had sacked Hepple's girlfriend, Megan Rambadt, who had been accused of posting racist material on a social media channel.
Solace Foot Health and Reflexology, whose directors included Jake Hepple's mother, said on Twitter that it had been brought to its attention that one of its employees had been "publicly posting and tweeting comments of an abhorrently racist nature". It later named Rambadt and said it had offered her racial sensitivity training, but after a number of conversations it had been decided to end her employment.

Rambadt's Twitter account has now been deleted. Her mother told the Daily Mail her daughter did not write the posts.


I guess her account must have 'been hacked'.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/24/white-lives-matter-plane-organiser-says-police-have-offered-protection

Sample 'non-racist' post from the good lady:

Megan Rambadt, tweeted that her town was 'like a foreign country' before adding in a follow-up post, 'They need sending back on banana boats, stinkin b******s'.


Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 06: AM
He's on a roll......looks like right-wing fruitcakes is the new bong eyed loonies but no mention of BLMUK wishing to defund police and close prisons or who is controlling the money raised by BLMUK and details of how it is to be spent. Odd eh?
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: grim reaper on June 30, 2020, 10: AM
akarjl2...Cos he is part and parcel of the same 'bong eyed loony left'. That's why he is persona non grata in my book...he is the 'Posts' Piers Morgan.
All SHOUTY diatribe with no substance whatsoever. If you don't fall within HIS dystopian outlook, he responds with his SHOUTY graphs and childish name calling. Social intercourse? He thinks that is something to be done in the bedroom.

Let's have a look at American crime lately;
Recently, in Chicago, more than 100 people, almost all of them black, were shot. Fourteen of those, including a 13 year old girl and a three year old boy, were killed.

In New York, there were 125 shootings during the first three weeks of June. Once again, almost all of the victims were black.
In Minneapolis, at least 30 people were shot, over last weekend.
Not a single police officer was involved in any of this gun violence.

These killings received almost no public attention, virtually no media coverage because it is simply routine. It is the way America is these days.

BLM fails to report, or protest about blacks shooting blacks. They and their allies continue to insist the police are the greatest threat to black lives.

Consider this; The latest statistics from the FBI reveal that in 2018, 2925 black people were murdered in the USA. Of those, 2600 were murdered by other blacks.

The number of whites killed by blacks was more than twice as many blacks killed by whites.

In 2018, police killed more whites than they did blacks!

Look at London and the amount of blacks killing blacks...we are in the region of 130 young blacks shooting, or knifing, other young blacks in ONE YEAR.
There is a picture here but the black community won't face it...they are killing each other.

'Living together' will never be accomplished whilst we have an underbelly of militants stirring the 'racial pot', looking for ANY reason to ferment trouble between blacks/whites.

Strange how they can overlook aspects that doesn't suit their narrative...why is Hamilton still accepting £millions from a company that employed forced labour slaves 75 years ago?

Why are different races, inc blacks,  happy to go to Oriel College to be educated,even though it was Rhodes money that built the place?
If they want Rhodes forgotten, surely his statue AND college should be demolished?

They even blame the 'whites/Govt' for the effect of Covid-19 on the BAME sector. Have they witnessed the thousands of BAME protesters, having raves, etc. without a thought for social distancing?
They really need to start looking inwards for a solution, rather than pointing the finger at whites.
This whole scenario is being driven by an underclass, both black and white.
Our Spocks need to being watching them very closely.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 30, 2020, 10: AM
akarjl2...Cos he is part and parcel of the same 'bong eyed loony left'. That's why he is persona non grata in my book...he is the 'Posts' Piers Morgan.
All SHOUTY diatribe with no substance whatsoever. If you don't fall within HIS dystopian outlook, he responds with his SHOUTY graphs and childish name calling. Social intercourse? He thinks that is something to be done in the bedroom.

Light blue touch paper and stand back....incoming!
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 30, 2020, 10: AM

almost all of them black........... were black..............
about blacks shooting blacks........... black people............ other blacks............ many blacks......... they did blacks........ blacks killing blacks...we are in  young blacks.......... other young blacks ........
black community........... between blacks/whites. ......, inc blacks, ...........both black..........



Calm down 'artlepool  Karen and kiss your world goodbye.  The public mood has changed and you no longer control the narrative.  Crawl back under your rock.




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF67IBYVPUU

PS.
You forgot to include 'I am not a racist but.....'  &   'some of my best friends are black'

Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 01: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 30, 2020, 10: AM


In 2018, police killed more whites than they did blacks!



I guess you must have been on a 'Keep Britain White' demo with all the other Kippers the day they taught mathematics at your school.

Black people have been 28% of those killed by police since 2013 despite being only 13% of the population.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

Maybe you are  one of those saying Tamir Rice was asking for it?



Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 02: PM
One on a roll......try a search and replace black/all.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on June 29, 2020, 02: PM
Ian Indian lecturer, Priyamvada Gopal.................. tweeted " White lives don't matter".



No quite.. The full quote is : White lives don't matter. As white lives"


I guess those with the IQ of a turnip have difficulty understanding the last 3 words and are so triggered by the first part they fail to recognise the significance of the last bit.
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Helpfully the good Lady  had another go at making her point:

For those at the back:

I'm a Brahmin.

My Brahmin life does not matter

Abolish Brahmin-ness.............

I'm from a Brahmin family. That makes me a Brahmin.

I will say this too then, since Brahmins are the whites of India.

Brahmin lives don't matter-- not as *Brahmin  lives.

Abolish Brahmins and the upper castes.



I guess it went straight over the heads of these sophisticated thinkers.

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I think I have found a unique business opportunity. I am going to  bring a van to the next EDL/Football Lads Alliance march and sell wigs and Mr Sheen spay polish-I should make a bomb and perhaps prove you can polish a turd?

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Title: All lives matter.......
Post by: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 03: PM
I should make a bomb and perhaps prove you can polish a turd?

mmmm....I hope forum admin have a robots.txt preventing the google bot from crawling this site or MK1 could be getting a visit from Whyeye 5 oh with statements like that?

Then again I'm sure a few of the boys in blue have access to this forum....as I said light the blue touch paper.... ;)
Title: Re: All lives matter.......
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 04: PM

mmmm....I hope forum admin have a robots.txt preventing the google bot from crawling this site or MK1 could be getting a visit from Whyeye 5 oh with statements like that?

Then again I'm sure a few of the boys in blue have access to this forum....



Heard it all before. As they say talk is cheap.
This is  time I (and SL another member here)were threatened with the Police by the Labour Mob:

Names obscured to protect the guilty.

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Did them no good then and will do you no good today.


I am sure Kate will confirm the details if you are in any doubt.
Title: Power to the people......
Post by: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 06: PM
Did them no good then and will do you no good today.

Me? Lol Seriously? :) Don't flatter yourself...I couldn't careless if you get your collar felt or not.

An entertaining, somewhat predictable keyboard warrior on a minor local forum who never fails to amuse/irritate and sits on the fence.....long may it continue -  great entertainment when there's nowt on the telly.

Power to the people Citizen Smith.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: Grumblstiltskin on June 30, 2020, 07: PM
I wonder how many people that post here have spent time with black people, good times and bad?
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: Grumblstiltskin on June 30, 2020, 07: PM
I wonder how many people that post here have spent time with black people, good times and bad?

When I was in Hammersmith what struck me was the way the population was mixed in all strata of society. You had all colours working in all jobs. In the NE if you ever have to use a 'professional' then they are 99% white. Non-white lawyers, doctors. teachers are rarer than a full head of hair at an EDL march. In Hammersmith about every third person you dealt in every occupation with was non-white.   Until we get non-white authority figures as people with power and influence  in our area race will always be a problem.  That will bring its own problems. Its bad enough now when the Football Lads Alliance  thugs rage when an asian security guard catches then doing coke at a football match so think how much worse it will be for those troglodytes when they come up before a bench of non-white Magistrates for sentence!
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: admin on June 30, 2020, 08: PM
Oh yes - the boys in blue most certainly do have access to this forum. One person spent 8 hour locked in a cell because of someone's perceptions of what they'd written.

So please play nice, peeps.
Title: Re: Power to the people......
Post by: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on June 30, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 06: PM
Did them no good then and will do you no good today.

Me? Lol Seriously? .
As I thought, all fur coat and no........

https://imgur.com/L3h6P4Y
Title: Return to reality?
Post by: akarjl2 on July 01, 2020, 05: AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475969/Premier-League-distances-Black-Lives-Matter-saying-does-not-endorse-group.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475969/Premier-League-distances-Black-Lives-Matter-saying-does-not-endorse-group.html)

Looks like BLMUK has scored several home goals - party over?
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: Johnny Bongo on July 01, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: mk1 on June 30, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: Grumblstiltskin on June 30, 2020, 07: PM
I wonder how many people that post here have spent time with black people, good times and bad?

When I was in Hammersmith what struck me was the way the population was mixed in all strata of society. You had all colours working in all jobs. In the NE if you ever have to use a 'professional' then they are 99% white. Non-white lawyers, doctors. teachers are rarer than a full head of hair at an EDL march. In Hammersmith about every third person you dealt in every occupation with was non-white.   Until we get non-white authority figures as people with power and influence  in our area race will always be a problem.  That will bring its own problems. Its bad enough now when the Football Lads Alliance  thugs rage when an asian security guard catches then doing coke at a football match so think how much worse it will be for those troglodytes when they come up before a bench of non-white Magistrates for sentence!

You're obviously healthy enough Mk1, not to have had to go to the A and E at North Tees.  My son was rushed in at the beginning of the year, due to asthma.  There were several different 'races' / nationalities...ALL of them doing the best for my son, every one of them explaining to me what was happening as they worked to save him!  I am and will be eternally grateful to them all. 
Having said that, that's not to say I agree with this BLM campaign, in as much as when anyone says or writes WLM, then there's uproar! All this nonsense with slavery and statues....they'll find anything to be angry about.  Haven't seen many protesting about the Guardian, though!
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 01, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on July 01, 2020, 05: PM



You're obviously healthy enough Mk1, not to have had to go to the A and E at North Tees.  My son was rushed in at the beginning of the year, due to asthma.  There were several different 'races' / nationalities...ALL of them doing the best for my son,

That was not my point. You have to move around in a totally integrated community to understand. We are used to foreign health workers but not to non-white upper middle class professionals.  Bank managers in dreadlocks in Hartlepool?


Quote from: Johnny Bongo on July 01, 2020, 05: PM
All this nonsense with slavery and statues....they'll find anything to be angry about. 

Did you ever consider that 'they' may be offended  by the statues?
I don't think you would be  one of those who believe we should bring back the Black & White Minstrels and the Robinson's Golly but that is because you now realise how bad it looked. Bet you didn't at the time they were popular. Attitudes change.

Hands up all those who think the Poles should be forced to put back all the statues of Lenin and Stalin they tore down.
What about the statues of Saddam in Iraq?

Perhaps you don't remember this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35787116

Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 02, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: mk1 on July 01, 2020, 07: PM
You have to move around in a totally integrated community to understand.

Ah the mythical "totally integrated community" - in UK? All colours, creeds and nationalities integrated fully?

Where exactly is that? At the local centre for the blind?

It does not exist so you can not claim to have experienced it.

Integration does not exist and never fully will. Not because of colour but because of background, identity and religion.

BLMUK is obviously a political group run by nutters....I note you have not commented on their recent tweets and manifesto.

Back to the fence- careful you don't get piles..... ;)

Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: admin on July 02, 2020, 04: PM


Admin. Note - You Tube clip deleted - we really don't want to see that sort of foulness on the Post
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 02, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: mk1 on July 02, 2020, 04: PMYou tell 'em mate.

I did "mate" ;)
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 02, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: admin on July 02, 2020, 04: PM


Admin. Note - You Tube clip deleted - we really don't want to see that sort of foulness on the Post



Perfect example of  how times change. OK in 2018, not welcome today. 

(Link live in old post but broken here by me to stop it playing)


Quote from: mk1 on February 08, 2018, 04: PM


Here is the spokesman for Anne Marie's new Party...............



https://www.youtube.com/watch?                time_continue=2&v=pJWooxgbmLs

Admin note: This clip contains strong language & many will find it offensive
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: admin on July 02, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on July 02, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: admin on July 02, 2020, 04: PM


Admin. Note - You Tube clip deleted - we really don't want to see that sort of foulness on the Post



Perfect example of  how times change. OK in 2018, not welcome today. 

(Link live in old post but broken here by me to stop it playing)


Quote from: mk1 on February 08, 2018, 04: PM


Here is the spokesman for Anne Marie's new Party...............



https://www.youtube.com/watch?                time_continue=2&v=pJWooxgbmLs

Admin note: This clip contains strong language & many will find it offensive

Appreciate that you appreciate the change in public perception.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 02, 2020, 09: PM
Perhaps someone should tell Starkey about the shift in attitudes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53262668


Starkey said: "Slavery was not genocide otherwise There wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or Britain would there? An awful lot of them survived."

Another sacking on the horizon?
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 03, 2020, 03: AM
The full Starkey interview is on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tVjZ9hA4SQ

and it is much worse than a single  headline-grabbing slavery comment.
In his blinkered charge to denigrate all things black he blatantantly misrepresents the work of Mary Seacole

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a black healer who did much good in the Crimean War at the same time as Florence Nightingale. He dismisses her with ' Whilst Nightingale was desperately trying to run a hospital, desperately trying to reform nursing............... Seacole was  running the Officers mess.

This is the Mary Seacole slander:
https://youtu.be/2tVjZ9hA4SQ?t=889

The reality is that Mary Seacole was turned down 4 times when she tried to join the nursing contingent for the Crimean War, turned down it seems for no other reason than she was black. So at her own expense she went there and set up her own business and, whilst running the business became a sutler/ Vivandière to the troops and treated everyone (at times under fire)  she came across  (French/Russian/British)  for free  She was hugely popular with the soldiers and remained so for the rest of her life. For some reason the supporters of Nightingale have routinely downplayed her contribution to the wounded and hint  she was actually running a knocking-shop for officers.

Starkey  is both a  liar and a vile disgusting man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Seacole
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 03, 2020, 06: AM
Perhaps you would like to pass comment on the aims of BLMUK?

https://uk.gofundme.com/f/ukblm-fund (https://uk.gofundme.com/f/ukblm-fund)

Specifically:

QuoteDeveloping and delivering training, police monitoring and strategies for the abolition of police.

Then again I won't hold my breath because you have ignored all previous requests to do so.

Hows the piles whilst sitting on the fence?  ;)

Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: Tee_Ess_25er on July 03, 2020, 02: PM
Quote from: admin on July 02, 2020, 08: PM
Appreciate that you appreciate the change in public perception.


Appreciate that you appreciate the change in admin and core users perception.

Fixed it for you

yvw
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 03, 2020, 03: PM
Starkey has jumped before he was pushed-good riddance to the awful man.

See here a very reasonable-looking and softly-spoken individual hint that there is going to have to be a 'strong' reaction to finally deal with  the 'lefties'.

https://youtu.be/6jvElenIm5Q?t=484
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 03, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: mk1 on July 03, 2020, 03: PM
Starkey has jumped before he was pushed-good riddance to the awful man.

See here a very reasonable-looking and softly-spoken individual hint that there is going to have to be a 'strong' reaction to finally deal with  the 'lefties'.

https://youtu.be/6jvElenIm5Q?t=484

Starkey always came across as arrogant and delusional - basically an intelligent head case.......ooops can I say that? Intelligent but unbalanced?

Bit like anyone ( or group) that campaign , in a modern society for the abolished of the police ....crazy eh....ooops can I say that......not in contact with reality....there that's better...who or what would advocate that?  Will they be called out and shut down?

Don't hold your breath. Goose/gander sauce anyone?

I guess the fence is comfortable .......
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: mk1 on July 05, 2020, 09: PM
Repugnant vile Starkey has now been dropped by his publishers.  He will have to find a new outlet for his disgusting views. I presume he will have more time to join Laurence Fox and the other gaggle  of loonies (N Farage, K. Hopkins, Anne Marie Waters etc)  preaching hatred  on Youtube





HarperCollins has dropped David Starkey as an author, saying that the racist views the bestselling historian expressed in a recent interview were "abhorrent".

On Thursday, Starkey told the rightwing commentator Darren Grimes that "slavery was not genocide, otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain would there? You know, an awful lot of them survived."

Following widespread condemnation – former chancellor Sajid Javid described the comments as racist and "a reminder of the appalling views that still exist" in Britain, while the historian David Olusoga said they were "truly disgusting" – HarperCollins UK said it would not be publishing any further books by Starkey.

A spokesperson for Hodder & Stoughton, which published Starkey's 2015 book Magna Carta, said it would also not publish him again: "We unequivocally condemn racism in any form. We published a book by David Starkey in 2015 as a one off project to mark the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta to coincide with a TV documentary. We will not be publishing any further books by him."
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 06, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: mk1 on July 05, 2020, 09: PM
more time to join Laurence Fox

Ahh another fellow looney? Someone else who has attracted the attention of our illustrious ethical standards monitor.

No comments about Lewis Hamilton taking the knee...dressed in black driving a black car, no comments about Mercedes and slavery? Wonder what would have happened if others had driven a white car dressed in white.....cue random YouTube vid...

STILL no comment about aims of BLMUK........wonder why that is?
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: grim reaper on July 06, 2020, 10: AM
There's no need to wonder why we don't have reference to the likes of Hamilton, blm uk etc. because they don't fit into his myopic narrative.

Likewise the recent 1000s of blacks in London throwing stones and bottles at the handful of police trying to stop an illegal 'rave'.
White policemen/women injured by the missiles but hey, only black lives matter.

If it had been white football fans throwing stones at blacks, he would have been all over it like a rash, including his BLOWN UP PHOTOS and 'SHOUTY' vernacular.

The popular buzz word at the moment for the lefty pond-life is 'slavery'.
However, notice how our resident 'Piers Morgan' and his ilk, make no mention of the 1000,s of Asian, Bulgarian, Romanian women slaving away in sweatshops in, amongst others places, Leicester. This was reported in most of the weekend papers.
Some of the women are reported to be on less than £5 an hour.

Looking at the internal photos of the 'factories', health and safety come way down the list of requirements.
Are these people being paid cash in hand? Do they have liability insurance?

One Asian owner of a 'factory' stated it is the only way he can compete with the 'big boys'.
THIS is slavery today and yet it is allowed to go on, as it has for years, because to try to end it would result in being termed 'racist'.

Make no mistake, blm uk is a money making machine, with 'hidden' people behind it. It is another 'Black Panther' movement, which was proscribed in the 70s.

Wanting to defund the police, shut down prisons, end capitalism and what they stupidly term 'white supremacy' is anarchy, pure and simple.

'White supremacy'? Have you noticed how many tv presenters, newsreaders etc are black? Have you noticed how many blacks feature in almost every advert on tv?
As they are only 13% of the population, there are an inordinate amount of blacks on our tv screens.
Does it bother me? NO. It only comes to mind when these lefty windbags call out 'white supremacy'.

So no, you won't get answers about Hamilton etc. from 'Piers', just his bigoted, lefty, myopic 'shouty' rants. 
It is the likes of him and blm uk that ferment unrest between blacks and whites.
Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: akarjl2 on July 06, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: grim reaper on July 06, 2020, 10: AM
'White supremacy'? Have you noticed how many tv presenters, newsreaders etc are black? Have you noticed how many blacks feature in almost every advert on tv?
As they are only 13% of the population, there are an inordinate amount of blacks on our tv screens.
Does it bother me? NO. It only comes to mind when these lefty windbags call out 'white supremacy'.

So no, you won't get answers about Hamilton etc. from 'Piers', just his bigoted, lefty, myopic 'shouty' rants. 
It is the likes of him and blm uk that ferment unrest between blacks and whites.

Amazing I am so brainwashed after years of being told BLM MORE that even the mention of the word Black or Blacks seems wrong.....

I suspect most people couldn't give a rats what colour someone is.....what they do give a rats about is so called positive discrimination AKA DISCRIMINATION.

MK1 is not someone we need to take much notice of as he has no actual opinion....and ignores real issues/questions.
Title: My flabber is gasted.................
Post by: mk1 on July 06, 2020, 09: PM
Leafing through the current Viz I was struck by the uncanny  likeness of a certain bong-eyed looney fruitcake  character to certain individuals here:


(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/GtNZcK.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poGtNZcKj)


The apoplectic rage, the tenuous grasp of history and the blatant distortion of facts-if it were me lads I would immediately consult a lawyer and sue Viz for  using your 'likeness' without permission. I think a case for defamation would be hard to pursue as  the depiction appears  slightly more left-leaning than your own extreme views.

Viz operates on many levels. I like this sly reference to a recent 'Warrior of the right' caught on camera parading his mind-boggling ignorance for all the world to laugh at.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/jsCu4N.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmjsCu4Nj)


So BLT, BHM or BHS? Which is it?




Title: Re: Hypocrites all
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on July 06, 2020, 10: PM
Remember Viz in the early days when it could be bought in obscure pubs in Newcastle's least salubrious places.
Title: Roger or Sid that is the question.....
Post by: akarjl2 on July 07, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: mk1 on July 06, 2020, 09: PM
Leafing through the current Viz

As you do when you cant find anything "relevant" on YouTube.

QuoteIf it were me lads

Bit sexist what's gender got to do with anything?

Quotesue Viz for  using your 'likeness' without permission.


Why? You cant beat a bit of free publicity.... ;)

QuoteSo BLT, BHM or BHS? Which is it?

Come come let's not get ahead of ourselves you are still bottling it with regards to the BLMUK manifesto.....as a supporter perhaps you would like to address the concerns about their aims?

Thought so.....back to reading comics sat on your fence.