HARTLEPOOL BOROUGH COUNCIL
PRESS RELEASE
Work to start on £1.3m Seaton Carew improvements
WORK will get under way next week on a £1.3m Hartlepool Borough Council project to revitalise the Seaton Carew seafront.
The project will see a new outdoor leisure park created on the section of promenade currently occupied by the paddling pool and the adjacent grassed area running north as far as the slipway.
The leisure park will feature a children's water play area including ground geysers, water tunnels, jet streams and a fountain spray. There will also be children's play equipment and picnic tables and – echoing Seaton's heritage as a seaside resort - beach huts.
In addition, a new four metre high glass and steel sculpture by Hartlepool artist Stuart Langley called 'Waves', reflecting the town's maritime and industrial heritage, will be installed on the prom near Seaton Reach.
A further focus of the improvements will be the nearby Grade II-listed art deco clock tower and bus station, which occupies a key location at Seaton's southern entrance.
There will be structural repairs to this popular landmark plus new paving, as well as bulb planting in the grassed area in front to create an attractive springtime welcome for visitors and residents alike.
The Seaton improvements have been made possible thanks to a £600,000 contribution from the Government's Coastal Communities Fund and £100,000 from local company Able UK. The main contractor is local firm Deerness Landscaping and Fencing.
In a separate development, a new ten-hole crazy golf course will be created next to the leisure park by a private investor.
Councillor Kevin Cranney, Chair of the Council's Regeneration Services Committee, said: "With its golden sandy beach, Seaton Carew has been a much-loved part of Hartlepool for generations.
"These exciting improvements – which are due to be ready for the start of next year's summer season – will bring traditional seaside fun back to the prom, increasing visitor numbers and boosting local businesses."
Peter Stephenson, Executive Chairman of Able UK, added: "Able is delighted to support such a worthy cause and we see this very much as a legacy of the ground-breaking projects that we are undertaking at Able Seaton Port.
"Over half of our workforce are Hartlepool residents and we hope that they, the whole community and very welcome new visitors to Seaton Carew will enjoy this new and enhanced experience for many years to come."
The Seaton Carew improvements are part of much wider Hartlepool Council plans to regenerate key parts of Hartlepool and the work is getting under way just days after the start of construction on a multi-million pound regeneration of the town's Church Street and Church Square areas.
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An impression of the Stuart Langley sculpture is attached.
Press release PRO36131. 25th October 2017.
Issued by Julian Heward, Public Relations Officer, on 01429 523044.
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We'll soon double that £140 million per year.....
Kings new clothes time.
Ok, that there new 'sculpture' I defy anyone to tell me what it's connection is with the maritime world. It just looks like one of those massive gaudily coloured disc shaped lollies shops on the sea front sell, unless that's the connection.
Squint and the sculpture looks like a wild red headed creature.
As for the regeneration, I hope they do a better job than the path widening that has been bodged in the park so the council workers can drive through without Woking anywhere.
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 25, 2017, 09: PM
Squint and the sculpture looks like a wild red headed creature.
Was he hunting rabbits and hares??
Surely 'wabbits'?
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton DumpSquint and the sculpture looks like a wild red headed creature.
what's mad dog marge got to do with it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 25, 2017, 09: PM
Squint and the sculpture looks like a wild red headed creature.
Any piece of so called 'art' that requires you to squint, or
imagine you're or
it symbolises or
you have to understand the concept/ message behind or
look, forget traditional sculpture tells me it's not very good and the 'artist' considers themself considerably more enlightened and intelligent than the morons they're selling it to. Then there's the dummies who commissioned it, whose knowledge of art ceased at wax crayons, nodding in mute approval of something that's a joke.
Deerness Landscaping and Fencing, described as a 'local' company is based in Bowburn and has connections to Esh Developments. Esh 106 money is part of the £1.3m
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
The complaints are that much is promised but the finished project (that is if it gets past the model/Masterplan stage) has never yet lived up to the hype. Remember this is the
third Church Street re-launch. The very fact their is a Plan C meant the previous efforts failed. If you want to see straws being clutched I refer you to the claim this Church Street revamp will be a success because it will link the town centre with the Transport Interchange!
Quote from: marky on October 27, 2017, 12: AM
Deerness Landscaping and Fencing, described as a 'local' company is based in Bowburn and has connections to Esh Developments. Esh 106 money is part of the £1.3m
so in effect they bought the job ??
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
You appear to be quite happy with the status quo and don't look too deeply, if at all, into the history of these projects.
You must obviously be part of their target audience, so just carry on believing.
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
Do they have a council tax in the top half a dozen in the country........ did they waste almost £400k on a Cafe in the Crem.......it's not being funny..... it's being realistic.
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
Ha ha this is funnier than anything I have read on here.
Put it in simple terms . If my wife wasted thousands and thousands on egotistical dreams ....bought the neighbours house and then paid somebody knock it down...started allowing others to park on my drive for a profit made sexist remarks to members of the public . Lied and got sacked from her job and then asked me for more allowance and then had the bare face cheek to show me plans for an extension....I would hit the f $/^ing roof!!
Quote from: Disgruntled voter on October 29, 2017, 03: PM
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
Ha ha this is funnier than anything I have read on here.
Put it in simple terms . If my wife wasted thousands and thousands on egotistical dreams ....bought the neighbours house and then paid somebody knock it down...started allowing others to park on my drive for a profit made sexist remarks to members of the public . Lied and got sacked from her job and then asked me for more allowance and then had the bare face cheek to show me plans for an extension....I would hit the f $/^ing roof!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Riddler5 on October 29, 2017, 02: PM
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
You appear to be quite happy with the status quo and don't look too deeply, if at all, into the history of these projects.
You must obviously be part of their target audience, so just carry on believing.
I want you to try really hard and think of something good HBC have done in the town. This is genuinely not trolling, it feels sometimes like the contempt and cynicalness on here come above all else.
Incidentally I work in property development (large scale master planning and brownfield regeneration), I agree that having multiple goes at sorting the church st / Marina out is shocking (knowing how much concept architectural fees are). But at the same time I think its good something is happening in Seaton and its good not to tar everything with the same brush
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 07: PM
Quote from: Riddler5 on October 29, 2017, 02: PM
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 12: PM
You lot are funny on here, one topic about how it's all hot air and nothing ever happens and then this, moaning about it when something actually does happen!
HBc are miles away from being without fault, but it's funny, cause you can read some of the posts on here and just replace the words HBC with DBC or SBC or any other local authority. Is there anything anyone in government can do right in your eyes?!
You appear to be quite happy with the status quo and don't look too deeply, if at all, into the history of these projects.
You must obviously be part of their target audience, so just carry on believing.
I want you to try really hard and think of something good HBC have done in the town. This is genuinely not trolling, it feels sometimes like the contempt and cynicalness on here come above all else.
Incidentally I work in property development (large scale master planning and brownfield regeneration), I agree that having multiple goes at sorting the church st / Marina out is shocking (knowing how much concept architectural fees are). But at the same time I think its good something is happening in Seaton and its good not to tar everything with the same brush
problem is they might build it and landscape it personally I think some of the funding is a bit dodgy but that's another matter
what will they do to maintain it ?
if and when it's done
because if it goes the same way as everything else they seem to touch best get ready for another poll tax hike >:(
Nah it wouldn't, they got those parking machines down the front, that will keep em right
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 07: PM
I want you to try really hard and think of something good HBC have done in the town. This is genuinely not trolling, it feels sometimes like the contempt and cynicalness on here come above all else
Just pick up a copy of The Mail or Hartlepool Life is you want happy-clappy uncritical comment on every Council scheme. Failing that Hartbeat will give you acres of gushing praise for every action of The Labour Group.
If you want the real story (for example) of how CAB decided on a whim to bin a new buildings entire fit of carpets because he simply did not like the colour then read here. Better still read both and then decide which version of reality you prefer. Perhaps we compliment each other?
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 07: PM
Incidentally I work in property development (large scale master planning and brownfield regeneration
Well then can you explain (for example) why anyone would build a Bus Station a good walk and on the wrong side of a major road from the main shopping centre? Why any planner would think that said shoppers would risk their lives crossing at least 4 lanes of heavy traffic to access busses that had to use stops that were already in place on 3 sides of said shopping centre?
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 08: PM
Nah it wouldn't, they got those parking machines down the front, that will keep em right
must have had them adapted to clear weeds dog sh*t litter etc then
point is they don't maintain anything look at the wild flower beds they planted
look at the state of the burn valley
look at the clip of a lot of the streets around the town
never mind spending millions on pie in the sky ideas
they are not even providing the basic services we pay for
Quote from: kevplumb on October 29, 2017, 08: PM
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 08: PM
Nah it wouldn't, they got those parking machines down the front, that will keep em right
must have had them adapted to clear weeds dog sh*t litter etc then
point is they don't maintain anything look at the wild flower beds they planted
look at the state of the burn valley
look at the clip of a lot of the streets around the town
never mind spending millions on pie in the sky ideas
they are not even providing the basic services we pay for
This is very true ! Sadly the town clowncil are unable to plan/manage/maintain any of the basic requirements of this Town !They all have delusions of grandeur and think they belong to some top institute . They need to take care of what we have and then make small improvements/wins and repeat.....not let the town go to sh@te and then gamble it all on a VISION hoping for a big win! !. ...
exactly the point I was making DV
no good hoyin it up then leaving it to go to rack and ruin
this lot would build on sand without the raft or piles
then use the money for arty farty stuff that the town does not need
if the foundation and the basics ain't right it's not worth doing IMHO
An awful lot of people would settle for general improvements that benefit the residents of the town and forego the lavish visions of the ruling group, simple cost effective maintenance of grass verges, street cleaning, parks and open spaces, libraries, youth clubs, roads and pavements, swimming baths / leisure centres etc etc etc, the basic infrastructure of the town should be the starting point for improvements.
If you are aware of the conceptual costings of Visions and Masterplans....... can you explain, why on earth would the council want to spend almost a quarter of a million pounds on Church Square, an area that is already a very pleasant space, that is lacking only in general maintenance and repairs, simple relatively inexpensive remedies to those issues are readily available, water jetting and replacement of block paving, weeding and repointing of sets and kerbs, new seating areas. ?
At a rough guess, it's possibly because the money for the improvements is only available in grant or loan form to fund new improvements or construction, rather than refurbishment of existing.
Alternatively as the college just got rebuilt they may think taking the mid 1990s style out to something newer / more contemporary. I don't work for HBC and can't second guess their rational for this, or the bus station.
Ultimately it's easy to be critical, especially when they don't maintain stuff post construction. This is in excuseabe but it is predicated on the idea that loads of growth will happen and that would spur on a desire to maintain. Church St mk1 looked nice up until it turned into booze Britain and then all the bars closed.
If it's any conciliation Salford Quays is a dump and not maintained, the public realm stuff anyways, and that place absolutely rakes it in. And Castlefield in Manchester, nearly broke me wrist there sliding over on moss covered pavement. See my earlier comment about all local authorities being cut from the same cloth
Also I think my reason for daring to offer a tad of support is that, somewhere in there, someone probably does mean well and does want to do well for the town. Which is hard, as they continually seem to be putting all their money on the next big thing.
I grew up in Hartlepool through the whole TDC thing, the massive Marina redevelopment and this unfaltering optimism that me home town was on the up, finally, after 20 - 30 years of decline. Anyways that boat came and sailed, call centres and all. Ever since then it seems something is the next big thing, tall ships, wind farms, more regeneration. I can see why people are cynical but at the same time it is a difficult position to start from
Quote from: eddy on October 29, 2017, 10: PM
Also I think my reason for daring to offer a tad of support is that, somewhere in there, someone probably does mean well and does want to do well for the town. Which is hard, as there continually seem to be putting all their money on the next big thing.
I disagree. I believe the only aim is to be seen 'doing something' so you can boast about the amount of money that passed through your hands whilst a Councillor and point to unfulfilled 'jam tomorrow' plans you want to claim as all your own work. Its all about getting elected and nothing else.
The mob trying to oust this mob will be no different.
What the town needs is the relocation of a Government agency presently based in the South. A medium sized employer paying decent wages would do wonders for the local economy. More disposable income would attract a better class of shops. At present the old 'middle class' are being relocated out of the town as all their traditional jobs are centralized in Teesside. It takes time but slowly they will relocate to where those jobs now are and the economic make-up of the town will further nose-dive. We are already below average and no amount of 'Executive Homes' new builds will reverse that decline.
Put simply, it's not a problem with local government, it's a problem with poor local government , in our case, the dire leadership. I have no confidence whatsoever in their ability to run our town, or anything come to that. We are prisoners of people devoid of talent who I assume won a competition to run a town for a day in some bizarre TV talent show and stayed on.
Just been looking at the 'Vision'.
I can't see any parking meters or smart bins!
Quote from: mk1 on October 29, 2017, 10: PM
What the town needs is the relocation of a Government agency presently based in the South. A medium sized employer paying decent wages would do wonders for the local economy. More disposable income would attract a better class of shops. At present the old 'middle class' are being relocated out of the town as all their traditional jobs are centralized in Teesside. It takes time but slowly they will relocate to where those jobs now are and the economic make-up of the town will further nose-dive. We are already below average and no amount of 'Executive Homes' new builds will reverse that decline.
[/b]THIS[/b]sums it up perfectly.
The town is being prepared for dormitory status and has been since the birth of Cleveland. This shower have accelerated the process with their unquestioning compliance. The town will eventually end up like Billingham, lots of houses, heavy industry and little else.
We need politicians working for the town, not opportunist egos promenading.
He's at it again . . . this time on BBC Tees today. It's just a sound recording so ignore the picture.
http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/media/cranney on seaton regeneration bbc tees 30102017.mp4 (http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/media/cranney%20on%20seaton%20regeneration%20bbc%20tees%2030102017.mp4)
Notice how he's describing themselves as the 'new administration', portraying themselves as the new kids on the block, the new broom. Now how long have they been in charge?
I cannot stand that man's voice. Every time he opens his gob he sets the town back another year.
How many Jewels does the Hartlepool Crown actually have :o
Quote from: fred c on October 31, 2017, 07: AM
How many Jewels does the Hartlepool Crown actually have :o
If there were any jewels in Hartlepools crown. they'd have flogged them ages ago.
Or...... pointed the cctv in the other direction ;)