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Hartlepool Hospital and local NHS
We want to keep the Hartlepool hospital at its current site.
We want to bring back services that been removed including accident and emergency services.
We oppose the proposed closures of the GP services at Hartfields medical practice, Fens medical practice and Wynyard road primary care centre.
I have launched this campaign because I'm passionate about the National Health Service. I think when we as a country are spending 120 billion pounds on the Health service the least people should expect is to have the safety of having a local hospital with all the basic services. I'm going to campaign now as the UKIP PPC for Hartlepool and I'll take the fight to Westminster if I'm elected as Hartlepool's MP next year in the general election.
People can join the campaign at the following address;
www.facebook.com/savehartlepoolhospital
Hospital Parking Charges
We want to scrap the unfair and unnecessary hospital car parking charges
The practice of charging patients, visitors and even hospital staff to park their cars at NHS hospitals is a scandalous rip-off and must be brought to an end.
Fight against Privatisation
Labour and Tory governments have both done Privatisation of the health service. Blair did it with foundation hospitals and now Cameron is offering services out to private tender. We will oppose any further moves to push the NHS towards privatisation. We in UKIP fully support the NHS. We support the NHS free at the point of use.
Phillip Broughton UKIP PPC for Hartlepool
YAWNNN.
Door-bolted.
Did anyone see that bandwaggon go past? I thought I saw an opportunist from Stockton jumping on board, several years too late of course!
I saw an Opportunist from Hartlepool "Jump On The Hospital Bandwagon" 10 years ago............... It got him elected to Parliament & he has accomplished the square root of "F**k All" for the town since.
You will be telling us all next that "Mandy" wasn`t an opportunist..... If you have a spare Nano Second can you list all of the achievments by the towns last 2 Labour "Members"
The A&E Leaflet campaign did cause a lot of disquiet to "The Member & The Mob", i have always advocated a show of public disaffection over local civic & political mismanagement.
The point was proven last year when a few people advocated a march to coincide with "Handsome Ste`s" Mayoral Ego Parade.... It was cancelled ??
Imagine the a affect few hundred disgruntled people could have on the "Members" election rallies during the GE campaign.
Or do the nay sayers want another 10 years of the most inefffectual MP the town has ever had ?????????
Quote from: one direction on September 01, 2014, 07: PM
Did anyone see that bandwaggon go past? I thought I saw an opportunist from Stockton jumping on board, several years too late of course!
Would that be the same 'bandwagon' our 'representatives' at the time turned a blind eye to...? ...... and looked the other way.....?
Isn't it great?
We have a set of self serving Councillors, people of dubious character, people under police investigation, a MP that it would appear nobody on here wants, a Labour rule of the town that has produced (to paraphrase Fred c, the square root of f. all) and yet, when we have a young man, granted not from Hartlepool, (Neither was that total, monumental waste of space Mandelson---Jeeez, how did he help the town during his tenure???), willing to have a go and try and turn around our town, he is mocked and derided by a small minded few.
OK, the wrestling promo did him no favours--get over it, he was trying to make something out of his hobby.
He has already indicated an interest in local affairs by being a councillor in Stockton. He knows Hartlepool is totally pis*ed off with its totally ineffectual waste of space, 'yes boss' MP and has had the balls to face the opprobrium he knew he would receive (Hartlepool being the narrow minded, Labour infused, parochial backwater of Teesside).
We have a chance to move out of the quicksand of Labour indifference to us......................
"Hartlepool? Oh, don't worry about Hartlepool..it's in the pocket. We could parachute ANYONE in there and Labour would come out on top."
That is what needs to change, the thought that we're Labour no matter what. Labour hasn't provided any jobs in our area (other than almost 5,000 as council employees, in a town of 85,000 residents!).
Labour set the ball moving for the loss of our A & E and the rundown of our great hospital.
Jim Allen should hang his head in shame for the constant support he gives for the removal of our services.
Labour always have and always will take us for granted. That needs to change.
'Phil' is knocked because of being in UKIP. Personally, I don't give a flying f**k what his nomenclature is...if he can help rid us of the political cancer of Labour in Hartlepool, more power to his elbow.
In a different sphere, most of the councillors in this town would have been RTU'd as totally unsuitable for the mission!
Phil, give it your best shot and if you don't achieve your aim it won't be YOUR failure...it will be the numpty's in this town wanting the status quo.
They are so sad.
Quote from: grim reaper on September 01, 2014, 10: PM
and yet, when we have a young man, granted not from Hartlepool, (Neither was that total, monumental waste of space Mandelson---Jeeez, how did he help the town during his tenure???), willing to have a go and try and turn around our town, he is mocked and derided by a small minded few.
It goes with the job and if you can't handle it don't stand.
I think you fall into the trap of believing 'you' are right' and anyone who thinks another way is 'wrong'. It does not work that way. No one party is ever going to get an overwhelming majority of the popular votes. The way things stand you can even form a government whilst getting less votes than the 'losing' party. That is the system and I honestly believe the biggest danger we face comes form those convinced the system needs changing so that the correct party(i.e the one they support) always gets elected.
So tell the lad to bend over, grab his ankles and smile...................
Quote from: fred c on September 01, 2014, 07: PMYou will be telling us all next that "Mandy" wasn`t an opportunist
Actually I don't think Mandy was an opportunist. I think he was given the Hartlepool seat because Tony Blair wanted him in Parliament and the Labour Party knew that Hartlepool could be relied on to produced the required result. It was the Labour Party that took the opportunity rather than Mandy as an individual.
Quote from: fred c on September 01, 2014, 07: PMIf you have a spare Nano Second can you list all of the achievments by the towns last 2 Labour "Members"
Actually if you have a spare nanosecond could you name any achievement of any of Hartlepool's MPs in my lifetime (the last 60 years will do). If you have slightly longer you might like to list all the people who have "promised" to save our hospital. That list of names will be considerably longer but their achievements will be the same as your list for the MPs. Bugger all!
Quote from: one direction on September 02, 2014, 12: AM
Actually if you have a spare nanosecond could you name any achievement of any of Hartlepool's MPs in my lifetime (the last 60 years will do).
... all Labour....there's a pattern here..!
Quote from: Riddler5 on September 02, 2014, 07: AM
Quote from: one direction on September 02, 2014, 12: AM
Actually if you have a spare nanosecond could you name any achievement of any of Hartlepool's MPs in my lifetime (the last 60 years will do).
... all Labour....there's a pattern here..!
Got it in 1............
If you think Mandy did hartlepool a favour you really need to ask yourself this............... Do you really want Wright...... well do You Punk ??????
As for Opportunists....... you mention Blair, an arch opportunist if ever there was one.
I always think of our local Labour Party as the Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory of politics......... mildly amusing but not to be taken seriously.
Quote from: fred c on September 02, 2014, 07: AM
If you think Mandy did hartlepool a favour you really need to ask yourself this............... Do you really want Wright...... well do You Punk ??????
As for Opportunists....... you mention Blair, an arch opportunist if ever there was one.
Fred, I never said Mandy did Hartlepool a favour,, where do you gt that from my comments? Where message boards like this fail is they are rarely used for any meaningful discussions but are just statements of entrenched positions and "clever" remarks. Exactly the behaviour people complain about in politicians that they never answer a question. So I will do something different and answer your question about Wright. No I don't want him. Again I'd be interested to learn where in my previous posts I said I did want him? If Fred and Kippperdip could restrain their attack dog stance to anyone daring to be less than 100 percent in favour of ukip then maybe they could try answering questions rather than just applying the tactic of attack is the best form of defence? The current ukip candidate and Jodie Dunn (remember her?), both are out of town candidates who used/are using the hospital as their bandwagon to ride into parliament. Dunn failed and hasnt been seen in town since. What is different about the Ukip candidate 10 years later!
That's a very interesting point KD.
So what you're basically saying is, you have no problem with a person coming to an area where they're not from and they don't currently live.... so long as they're willing to work really hard.
I fully concur. I've been saying the same thing for years on this forum.
Geography, place of birth etc. they matter not, so long as a person is willing to graft and do their bit for the 'indigenous' population.
That's what you're saying.... right? ;)
Quote from: one direction on September 02, 2014, 08: AM
Quote from: fred c on September 02, 2014, 07: AM
If you think Mandy did hartlepool a favour you really need to ask yourself this............... Do you really want Wright...... well do You Punk ??????
As for Opportunists....... you mention Blair, an arch opportunist if ever there was one.
Fred, I never said Mandy did Hartlepool a favour,, where do you gt that from my comments? Where message boards like this fail is they are rarely used for any meaningful discussions but are just statements of entrenched positions and "clever" remarks. Exactly the behaviour people complain about in politicians that they never answer a question. So I will do something different and answer your question about Wright. No I don't want him. Again I'd be interested to learn where in my previous posts I said I did want him? If Fred and Kippperdip could restrain their attack dog stance to anyone daring to be less than 100 percent in favour of ukip then maybe they could try answering questions rather than just applying the tactic of attack is the best form of defence? The current ukip candidate and Jodie Dunn (remember her?), both are out of town candidates who used/are using the hospital as their bandwagon to ride into parliament. Dunn failed and hasnt been seen in town since. What is different about the Ukip candidate 10 years later!
I certainly don`t consider myself an attack dog for anyone or any party, i have become disallusioned with politics in general, however i do have a fierce pride in Hartlepool & that is my motivation.
I would think my views & concerns are now fairly well known, but my major concern is that the town gets the sh**ty end of the stick & has done for the last 50 years, we have had 3 Labour MP`s & umpteen Labour Councils on the trot & none of them has advanced the town in any significant way in those years.
We have a disfunctional council that is led by a number of self serving egomaniacs who are more interested in their own personnal ideals,than righting the problems faced by Hartlepool.
So getting back to the UKIP Candidate........ like a lot of other people in Hartlepool i believe that we need change & the biggest change would be in electing a "Non Labour MP" hopefully to coincide with that i would hope that a change in the make up of our council would happen in May 2015.
Hartlepool becoming a marginal seat would be a bit like the town doing a bungee jump........ your not exactly sure your not going to hit the ground, until the Elastic band pulls you back up.
Who knows, but it couldn`t be any worse than the way Hartlepool has been allowed to stagnate by both the Major Parties over the years.
I would agree Broughton hasn't lied (as far as I know) but he does have a problem. When even Farage admits that UKIP are not going to be forming the next Government then any claims that Broughton makes (or any other UKIP candidate) that UKIP are going to do this, that or the other are fanciful.
Broughton's role next May will be as a receptacle for all those voters who are fed up of being taken for granted and want Wrighty out - those that think that the best thing that could happen to Hartlepool is for it to become a marginal.
Even if he succeeds, it would still be a great mistake to think that the people of Hartlepool have suddenly become UKIP converts. Someone suggested that he is using the town; I rather think it's the other way around.
Quote from: kipperdip on September 02, 2014, 09: AMWhat is more important parochialism or principles?
Can't you have both? I have some quite strong principles, in fact my refusal to compromise them has cost me quite a lot over the years, but I sleep like a baby at night and have a clear conscience. I also love my home town! Personally I think its important an MP has close and well established links to the seat they represent. Party hacks (like Wright) or carpet baggers (like Dunn and Broughton) are equally as reprehensible. Couldn't UKIP have found a local person to stand? Or are they so divest of talent they have to go out of town. Sad indictment of the local UKIP membership!
On the subject of bandwagons and carpet baggers........
Quote from: DRiddle on September 02, 2014, 09: AM......you have no problem with a person coming to an area where they're not from and they don't currently live.... so long as they're willing to work really hard.
I fully concur. I've been saying the same thing for years on this forum.
This from a man who was saying for years on this forum that he thought a Councillor should live in the ward they represent but then changed his position when a suitable bandwagon he could jump on came past in another ward!
Superb comment David for those who just want to badger he Ukip main policy is the exact opposite to the statement from KD and before you jump in I am still going to vote UKIP
Quote from: steveL on September 02, 2014, 11: AM
Broughton's role next May will be as a receptacle for all those voters who are fed up of being taken for granted and want Wrighty out - those that think that the best thing that could happen to Hartlepool is for it to become a marginal.
Even if he succeeds, it would still be a great mistake to think that the people of Hartlepool have suddenly become UKIP converts. Someone suggested that he is using the town; I rather think it's the other way around.
Which is why you won't find me joining in any UKIP catfights here. It suits
me to vote UKIP.
Quote from: one direction on September 02, 2014, 05: PM
I have some quite strong principles, in fact my refusal to compromise them has cost me quite a lot over the years
Lord save us from those who believe they have no need to compromise.
Bait refused Mr One Direction Sir.
My favourite comment on this thread is this one
QuoteSomeone suggested that he (Phil) is using the town; I rather think it's the other way around.
from SteveL.
That sums it up in a nut shell.
Did I ever imagine myself voting for a 'wrestler from Tesco' (albeit an articulate one) who represents the party I have little or no time for politically?.......... no.
Would I vote for
whoever I think has the best change of wobbling Wright, irrespective of political allegiance? ..... yes.
Phil can bang on about the hospital or wind farms, jobs or whatever until the cows come home.
In my view he should base his whole campaign around a three word slogan.
"ANYONE BUT IAIN"
Quote from: mk1 on September 02, 2014, 06: PMLord save us from those who believe they have no need to compromise.
I never compromise on what I really believe. Almost always that costs me, not anyone else. One of the things I really believe in for example is everyone has the right to chose his or her own path to hell. So if they don't agree with me then that's fine. However, I expect the same consideration in return. Its not the failure to compromise that's the problem in most cases, its the inability to tolerate other view points. Refusing to compromise isn't the same as refusing to change your mind! If presented with a reasoned argument that I can understand and accept then I quite often change my mind about things. I used to be a Labour supporter in my youth but now wouldn't vote for them if they were the last party on earth, in my opinion the party's beliefs and values have been totally compromised, probably beyond recovery. The problem with politics isn't failure to compromise, its failure to have any principles to compromise. Pragmatism is sadly the excuse for many things.
Quote from: DRiddle on September 02, 2014, 08: PM
Bait refused Mr One Direction Sir.
Bait refused or your position is indefensible so you aren't even going to try? ;)
Refused... for a second time. :)
Quote from: DRiddle on September 03, 2014, 06: PM
Refused... for a second time. :)
Well that's your privilage. After all you don't need to engage with anyone on any terms but your own now that you are elected.......typical politician...... ;)
Refused a third time... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I91DJZKRxs
Quote from: DRiddle on September 03, 2014, 08: PM
Refused a third time... ;)
You do not have to say anything but it may harm your re-election if you do not mention something when questioned that you later rely on at the ballot box.
Not of course that polliticians allow little things like truth, honesty or keeping promises to influence them once the votes are counted!
;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSQIRWU7rmE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSQIRWU7rmE)