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Title: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 25, 2018, 09: PM
In his column for the Mail. Mike Hill with the words 'MP for Hartlepool' presumably so we know who he is. He'd been watching a documentary about North Tees on his telly and people from Hartlepool would have been among those waiting for treatment and how 'we were conned into relinquishing our own A&E from Hartlepool Hospital'. He goes on about 8 years of cuts, no surprise there.
(When hospital A&E departments close,  patients have to go to another hospital which logically becomes even busier. The closure of our hospital services began under a Labour government backed by a Labour council and MP. Didn't he know that?)
Inexplicably,  in the middle of his column he switches to Pools plight, which is what his column was going to be about.( He was there.)
He then returns to the NHS and linked it with Pools plight,  'I hope that deal can be rescued. The club really is as intrinsic to our town as the hospital at Holdforth Road is.'
Is history being re- written here?
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 25, 2018, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 25, 2018, 09: PM
In his column for the Mail. Mike Hill with the words 'MP for Hartlepool' presumably so we know who he is. He'd been watching a documentary about North Tees on his telly and people from Hartlepool would have been among those waiting for treatment and how 'we were conned into relinquishing our own A&E from Hartlepool Hospital'. He goes on about 8 years of cuts, no surprise there.
(When hospital A&E departments close,  patients have to go to another hospital which logically becomes even busier. The closure of our hospital services began under a Labour government backed by a Labour council and MP. Didn't he know that?)
Inexplicably,  in the middle of his column he switches to Pools plight, which is what his column was going to be about.( He was there.)
He then returns to the NHS and linked it with Pools plight,  'I hope that deal can be rescued. The club really is as intrinsic to our town as the hospital at Holdforth Road is.'
Is history being re- written here?

More likely duff editing by the Mail ... two columns merged into one.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Johnny Bongo on January 25, 2018, 10: PM
But will he fight to re-open our A & E?  There's more chance of me winning the Euro lottery! 
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: mk1 on January 25, 2018, 10: PM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on January 25, 2018, 10: PM
But will he fight to re-open our A & E?  There's more chance of me winning the Euro lottery!
Perhaps he needs reminding that Stephen Akers Belcher is the one who signed off on the closure plans?
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Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 25, 2018, 11: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 25, 2018, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 25, 2018, 09: PM
In his column for the Mail. Mike Hill with the words 'MP for Hartlepool' presumably so we know who he is. He'd been watching a documentary about North Tees on his telly and people from Hartlepool would have been among those waiting for treatment and how 'we were conned into relinquishing our own A&E from Hartlepool Hospital'. He goes on about 8 years of cuts, no surprise there.
(When hospital A&E departments close,  patients have to go to another hospital which logically becomes even busier. The closure of our hospital services began under a Labour government backed by a Labour council and MP. Didn't he know that?)
Inexplicably,  in the middle of his column he switches to Pools plight, which is what his column was going to be about.( He was there.)
He then returns to the NHS and linked it with Pools plight,  'I hope that deal can be rescued. The club really is as intrinsic to our town as the hospital at Holdforth Road is.'
Is history being re- written here?

More likely duff editing by the Mail ... two columns merged into one.
All his own work apparently, this time the Mail is innocent.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 25, 2018, 11: PM
Did he mention the new 'thirteen' housing estate which will be built so close to the hospital and hospice that it will stop any future development of either.

Apparently at least one councillor is on the board of Thirteen.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: kevplumb on January 26, 2018, 05: AM
fight  ;D
couldn't  fight sleep  :o
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Shepherd on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
I was told that the A&E in Hartlepool will never come back because it does not have the necessary support departments to allow it to function, there is more to it than the A&E area and staff, but worse that there is now an Urgent Care Unit at North Tees Hospital.

Its odds on that the A&E at North Tees is going the way of the Dodo. That leaves the people of Hartlepool with even further to go to see a Doctor in an emergency.

The A19 has not been fit for purpose for 20 years and the South bound road is a car park from 7:30 to 09:00hrs.

How many more will shuffle off their mortal coil in the back of an ambulance trying to get to Marton? If we had a decent journalist in the town I am sure they could find out and make it known how many have ended their days in that fashion. The extra time it will take to cover the extra miles to make it to James Cook will contribute to the demise of those who might have made it to North Tees, but will run out of time thanks to the extra travel time needed.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 25, 2018, 11: PM
Did he mention the new 'thirteen' housing estate which will be built so close to the hospital and hospice that it will stop any future development of either.

Apparently at least one councillor is on the board of Thirteen.

Current board members. https://www.thirteengroup.co.uk/page/board-directors

Regarding one of the above, Brian Dinsdale -  'He is currently Chair of the North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust. Brian is a member of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy and Bachelor of Arts'.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Truthache on January 26, 2018, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 25, 2018, 11: PM
Did he mention the new 'thirteen' housing estate which will be built so close to the hospital and hospice that it will stop any future development of either.

Apparently at least one councillor is on the board of Thirteen.

Current board members. https://www.thirteengroup.co.uk/page/board-directors

Regarding one of the above, Brian Dinsdale -  'He is currently Chair of the North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust. Brian is a member of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy and Bachelor of Arts'.

Chair of the NTH Trust is Paul Garvin, not Brian Dinsdale.  He is a non- executive director and deputy chairman.  His declaration of interests will no doubt be accessible on the Trust website. 
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 26, 2018, 07: PM
Quote from: Truthache on January 26, 2018, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 25, 2018, 11: PM
Did he mention the new 'thirteen' housing estate which will be built so close to the hospital and hospice that it will stop any future development of either.

Apparently at least one councillor is on the board of Thirteen.

Current board members. https://www.thirteengroup.co.uk/page/board-directors

Regarding one of the above, Brian Dinsdale -  'He is currently Chair of the North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust. Brian is a member of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy and Bachelor of Arts'.

Chair of the NTH Trust is Paul Garvin, not Brian Dinsdale.  He is a non- executive director and deputy chairman.  His declaration of interests will no doubt be accessible on the Trust website.

Apologies - you're right. Looks like the Thirteen web site was incorrect & Garvin is the head honcho. The North Tees & Hartlepool Foundation trust web site states 'Brian Dinsdale - OBE, Non-executive director/deputy chairman. Appointed 30 November 2007, Deputy Chairman from 9 March 2010. Term of office as NED until 30 November 2017.'

https://www.nth.nhs.uk/about/trust-board/


Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 27, 2018, 05: AM
If Hill is hoping to come on talking about things like this he should read into the history of the subject beforehand.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: isolde on January 28, 2018, 05: PM
Mike Hill is very good at saying what sounds good to the voters, ie picking worthy topics that are currently in the public eye, its a labour thing its called a bandwagon in the real world.  Most people do not know much more than him so he gets away with talking a lot of waffle but really saying absolutely noting at all
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 28, 2018, 10: PM
I wrote to him on a number of subjects such as the cutting of the hospital shuttle bus service and he never responded once.

Waste of space and par for the course in Hartlepool.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 29, 2018, 05: AM
Quote from: Shepherd on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
I was told that the A&E in Hartlepool will never come back because it does not have the necessary support departments to allow it to function, there is more to it than the A&E area and staff, but worse that there is now an Urgent Care Unit at North Tees Hospital.

Its odds on that the A&E at North Tees is going the way of the Dodo. That leaves the people of Hartlepool with even further to go to see a Doctor in an emergency.

The A19 has not been fit for purpose for 20 years and the South bound road is a car park from 7:30 to 09:00hrs.

How many more will shuffle off their mortal coil in the back of an ambulance trying to get to Marton? If we had a decent journalist in the town I am sure they could find out and make it known how many have ended their days in that fashion. The extra time it will take to cover the extra miles to make it to James Cook will contribute to the demise of those who might have made it to North Tees, but will run out of time thanks to the extra travel time needed.
When it closes, we'll all be expected to go through to James Cook, if you have a car that is.
However, what we'll get is daily tales on the media telling us how the hospital is run  off it's feet with patients turning up at A&E and asking them basically not to, visit your local witch if you have to, but avoid A&E. But, people will turn up, because when you get round to closing 2 out of 3 A&E departments, the remaining one will be swamped.
It's basic maths which the suits and the media chose to blatantly ignore. If you live in Hartlepool, such facilities are going to become even more inaccessible.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: mk1 on January 29, 2018, 06: AM
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on January 28, 2018, 10: PM
I wrote to him on a number of subjects such as the cutting of the hospital shuttle bus service and he never responded once.

He runs his correspondence like a Facebook page. If he thinks you are not 'one of us' then you get blocked.
A habit he picked up from his  éminence grise.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: kevplumb on January 29, 2018, 07: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 29, 2018, 05: AM
Quote from: Shepherd on January 26, 2018, 06: PM
I was told that the A&E in Hartlepool will never come back because it does not have the necessary support departments to allow it to function, there is more to it than the A&E area and staff, but worse that there is now an Urgent Care Unit at North Tees Hospital.

Its odds on that the A&E at North Tees is going the way of the Dodo. That leaves the people of Hartlepool with even further to go to see a Doctor in an emergency.

The A19 has not been fit for purpose for 20 years and the South bound road is a car park from 7:30 to 09:00hrs.

How many more will shuffle off their mortal coil in the back of an ambulance trying to get to Marton? If we had a decent journalist in the town I am sure they could find out and make it known how many have ended their days in that fashion. The extra time it will take to cover the extra miles to make it to James Cook will contribute to the demise of those who might have made it to North Tees, but will run out of time thanks to the extra travel time needed.
When it closes, we'll all be expected to go through to James Cook, if you have a car that is.
However, what we'll get is daily tales on the media telling us how the hospital is run  off it's feet with patients turning up at A&E and asking them basically not to, visit your local witch if you have to, but avoid A&E. But, people will turn up, because when you get round to closing 2 out of 3 A&E departments, the remaining one will be swamped.
It's basic maths which the suits and the media chose to blatantly ignore. If you live in Hartlepool, such facilities are going to become even more inaccessible.
you can't get a quart in a pint pot
and as for limp wristed larry the soggy woodbine forget that waste of space he is just a seat warmer as I believe you yourself predicted
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: mk1 on January 30, 2018, 09: AM
He is banging on about it again today

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/mp-says-enough-is-enough-over-housing-plans-for-hartlepool-hospital-site-1-8987241

He will of course ignore the fact that The National Labour Party and The Local Labour Party were all gung-ho for the original closure and agreed with every step of the moving of services south.   Very easy to posture when you know that not a word you say is going to make the slightest difference to the outcome. Hill was active in Local Labour when the original closures were ongoing so what did he do about it at that time?

Here you can see him in 2010  skulking around with his fellow-creatures of opportunity trying to claim credit for the 'new' Hospital

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8gRfqf4HA

Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: fred c on January 30, 2018, 10: AM
Another meaningless article, this will be allowed to go ahead and the LabTor council will wave it through planning, completely ignoring the fact the 'Desire for Double Decker Bus' outweighed the need for an A&E department.

There are umpteen articles and reams of council minutes that all point to the complicity of Labour in the downgrading of the hospital, countless meetings, public marches, thousands of names on a petition, all ignored by those who are still in power.

Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 30, 2018, 10: AM
He's the night watchman with time to fill, so he bangs out these page fillers complete with photo to keep remind people who he is and not Rigby.
It's the old, old routine of banging out the drumbeat to the same people so the message sticks, basically Vote Labour, we are cuddly and fluffy.
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: mk1 on January 30, 2018, 10: AM
This is what was purchased with the bung grant SAB got for signing off on the Hospital closure. A bus so rusty it was scrapped not long after. Another successful venture from the dynamic Duo!


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Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: isolde on February 20, 2018, 08: AM
mike Hill knows how to play the game, he picks what is most important at the time to the people and he latches on, he puts himself right at the front in the limelight so it looks like he is doing his utmost to help.  In reality he is doing nothing but talk to people.  The good doctor was not allowed to speak at the Middleton Cabins meeting so Mike Hill who is a rank above stepped up at the end and tried to steal the show. Unfortunatley we all knew he did nothing for them, he even did not turn up to the first meeting he had arranged with them. But for people watching the video and reading the papers he used the good doctors ploy and told all he had spent weeks helping . 
I come from Northallerton, and we had a similar fight with the Friarage Hospital and we had William Hague as our MP, he did the same as your Iain Wright did and now Mike Hill, he did lots of talks in the local newspapers but did not actually 'do' anything at all. 
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: kevplumb on February 20, 2018, 09: AM
Quote from: isolde on February 20, 2018, 08: AM
mike Hill knows how to play the game, he picks what is most important at the time to the people and he latches on, he puts himself right at the front in the limelight so it looks like he is doing his utmost to help.  In reality he is doing nothing but talk to people.  The good doctor was not allowed to speak at the Middleton Cabins meeting so Mike Hill who is a rank above stepped up at the end and tried to steal the show. Unfortunatley we all knew he did nothing for them, he even did not turn up to the first meeting he had arranged with them. But for people watching the video and reading the papers he used the good doctors ploy and told all he had spent weeks helping . 
I come from Northallerton, and we had a similar fight with the Friarage Hospital and we had William Hague as our MP, he did the same as your Iain Wright did and now Mike Hill, he did lots of talks in the local newspapers but did not actually 'do' anything at all.
spot on  ;)
Title: Re: Hill tackles A&E
Post by: mk1 on February 20, 2018, 11: AM
Hill back on the Hospital Bandwagon in today's Mail

https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1828040310549144

Same old same old. What is 'new' is the absence of Anth defending against the overwhelmingly negative reception Hill normally gets.
It seems Anth has phoned up Momentum Head Office and asked them to send a couple of shill posters to support   Hill. We have the return of London based Preston

https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1828040310549144?comment_id=1828098520543323&reply_comment_id=1828104873876021&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D

and scouser Alan

https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1828040310549144?comment_id=1828118573874651&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D

Prerston has been mentioned here before:

https://hptimbral.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/index.php/topic,4235.msg45092.html#msg45092

Why are the locals so reluctant to support Hill?