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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: notinshadow on April 27, 2012, 06: PM

Title: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 27, 2012, 06: PM

Was that the Hartlepool Mail mentioned on the news for shutting it's office in the town and moving it to Sunderland..

Weekly on way I guess.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Julie noted on April 27, 2012, 06: PM
That will teach Johnson Press to back the wrong horse.
I bet Harry Blackwood feels vindicated now.
I only wish The Northern Echo would open an office in Hartlepool and put in more Hartlepool news. Now THAT is a local newspaper.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 27, 2012, 06: PM

I don't like the Echo and never really have..times are changing with all newspapers so it's no big surprise really. I never caught all the news story so the facts need checking.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: codheadless on April 27, 2012, 07: PM
the mail has slipped a long way since the likes of peter barron and harry blackwood ran it, she just wants bonny babes and wedding competitions, along with fund raising for a new play bus.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 27, 2012, 07: PM

I totally agree Mr Head
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Straight Talking on April 27, 2012, 07: PM
Good riddance - I don't think we'll miss it.

Prefer the Journal meself
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 27, 2012, 08: PM
.....and award ceremonies for Nurses, Police and others who earn over £30,000 a year.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Sunken Ships on April 27, 2012, 10: PM
Hard to feel sad about this given it is filled with beauty competitions and other junk these days, most of it already written outside the town. A good local paper would be a massive boost for the town, unfortunately The Mail hasn't been that in many years. I've never seen a newspaper with so many spelling mistakes and other errors on its pages.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: codheadless on April 27, 2012, 11: PM
Shields Gazette and Hartlepool Mail papers in job cut plan

Two local newspapers in north-east England could cut 15 jobs, over plans to reorganise their operations.

Some staff from The Shields Gazette and The Hartlepool Mail are set to be relocated to the Northeast Press's Sunderland head office.

Staff were also told on Thursday that six editorial positions and nine sales staff may lose their jobs across the region.

The reorganisation by Johnston Press is due to take place within two months.

Joy Yates, editor of the Hartlepool Mail, said on its website: "There has been a great deal of recent discussion in connection with the Hartlepool Mail.

"We are looking forward to a relaunch of the newspaper later this year."

The way she talks it sounds like a good thing!

Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 28, 2012, 01: AM
By xmas we'll see her selling them on the shopping centre ramp or better still the Big Issue !
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: mk1 on April 28, 2012, 02: AM
It wouild seem the future is bleak for the whole company and the Mail is the least of its problems................


http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/business/2012/04/johnson-press-zombie-company

He sees a long-term future for weekly papers, a limited one for dailies  and salvation in the form of mobile and online content.

No wonder Mizzzz Yates is worried about the site- she sees her future being taken away from her!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: marky on April 28, 2012, 08: AM
I think losing The Mail added to the loss of our Hospital will have the effect of diminishing the town status as a 'stand-alone' town and we'll move a little bit further towards becoming not much more than a suburb of Teesside.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 28, 2012, 10: AM
Thats right Marky, all we need is to lose POOLS and we'll be the next SLOUGH !
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: for fawkes sake on April 28, 2012, 12: PM
If they really are closing their offices then we shouldn't forget that this will add another empty building to the town centre's collection; not a 'grot spot' - yet - but given that the press room has been up for sale for a while and Job Centre Plus has cleared some of its floors, what is one of the town's newest town centre buildings is now well under-occupied. I suspect some sort of sales office will remain for local ads but then this really could be moved quite easily to a little empty shop somewhere.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: stokoe on April 28, 2012, 02: PM
at least we will get rid of the ugly mug labour lot.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: rabbit on April 28, 2012, 03: PM
A  regular Page 3 pin-up could help circulation (not mine- the Mail`s!)

The mind boggles at the possibilities.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 28, 2012, 07: PM

As long as they don't pick the molly's from the Labour party..

One step on from that.. they better not use the guys from the Labour party as the page seven fella's  ;D

YUK!!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: stokoe on April 28, 2012, 07: PM
Quote from: LookslikeTORYagain on April 28, 2012, 07: PM

As long as they don't pick the molly's from the Labour party..





ffs they would need a double spread.
Title: Hartlepool Mail dances to the HTH tune yet again..........
Post by: mk1 on April 28, 2012, 08: PM
Note Mizzzz Yates used her rag to get in another front page  dig at 'social networking sites' tonight.
You have to read very carefully so you can pick up the 'get out of jail card' she used.
She said:
"There are no current  plans to move our newspaper publishing  from daily to weekly, as rumoured."

Nothing to prevent the 'current plans ' from changing is there?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: mk1 on April 28, 2012, 08: PM
The current crop of Labour Ladies makes me wish I was in one of  those countries that make females wear a Burka.............

Why not get Mad Dog to do a Sports Section, reporting on stuff like....err......... ping pong contests?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 28, 2012, 10: PM

Ping Pong.. ;D

You bad MK1.. to the bone!! ;)
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail dances to the HTH tune yet again..........
Post by: steveL on April 29, 2012, 08: AM
Quote from: mk1 on April 28, 2012, 08: PM
Note Mizzzz Yates used her rag to get in another front page  dig at 'social networking sites' tonight.
You have to read very carefully so you can pick up the 'get out of jail card' she used.
She said:
"There are no current  plans to move our newspaper publishing  from daily to weekly, as rumoured."

Nothing to prevent the 'current plans ' from changing is there?

I can't help but think that we've reached the point when Ms Yates reads HTH more often than I read the Mail.

The die is cast on this one and whatever Ms Yates says carries little weight.

I don't actually go with the view that newspaper circulation is dropping and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It may be true of the nationals but I think local papers are in a better position. Town based papers have a captured readership and form part of the local landscape. So long as they engage with the public and provide an interesting and informative read their papers will sell.

And there's the rub, I guess.

Ms Yates has turned the Mail into a paper of trivia, bonnie baby competitions and press releases. I'm afraid such things aren't going to engage anyone. 
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on April 29, 2012, 02: PM
Ping Pong ....we have had lots of pong and you know what they say, there is no pong without rotten.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Sunken Ships on April 29, 2012, 02: PM
Quote from: marky on April 28, 2012, 08: AM
I think losing The Mail added to the loss of our Hospital will have the effect of diminishing the town status as a 'stand-alone' town and we'll move a little bit further towards becoming not much more than a suburb of Teesside.

I'm afraid I have seen little from the Mail on the subject of the hospital in recent times when they should have been going all out to campaign against its closure. But given most of the paper has been written in Sunderland for some time, why do we expect a load of Mackems to care whether we have a hospital or not?

As mk1 points out, Joy Yates' comments cannot be trusted and the paper will soon become a weekly edition before disappearing altogether. She has presided over consistent huge losses of readers and remains more concerned with keeping her job in the organisation than producing a decent paper, again what do we expect from someone who has no relationship with the town?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: beanzontoast on April 29, 2012, 07: PM
WHY DONT YOU ALL GET IT, Hartlepool hung a monkey ( alegedly ) we may not know the truth but you are a backwater, and you look to the local Labour controlled council to make your every decisions for you have done this for so long ( in your vote ) they even decide  we buy tesco, or morrissons, ( tea bags ) do you know your council pays a vast fortune, for outside consultants to tell them just that. The Labour controlled council is so entrenched how can anyone in Hartlepool who opposes the closure of the HOSPITAL not lay it firmly at Labours door, of course the Labour candidates dont mention any of this nor the 1.3 Trillion this country is in debt, due to 13 years in government, nor the cost to hospitals, schools etc. due to mass immigration, if you are a taxpayer you need to, well vote.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: testing times on April 29, 2012, 09: PM
Wrong thread, methinks.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: mk1 on April 29, 2012, 09: PM
All this talk of 'you' in relation to Hartlepool residents makes me believe we have an ex-pat posting here. Did I miss an earlier clarification on this point?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Inspector Knacker on April 30, 2012, 06: AM
All my life I've regarded the Mail as the voice of the people of the town, there to point out the failings of local government and keep us aware of those things that  we need to know, not perfect, but what ever is, but it was the locally informed source of information we relied on.
What do we have now ...? an advertising paper with a few semi local titbits of jibber jabber, nothing of any consequence, but then how could it, it's not even a shadow of it's former self, a gatherer of tittle tattle and all the depth of a car park puddle.
Someone mentioned it's reporting of the hospital saga, well how could it, it's in the same position shipping it's 'business' out of town and leaving the veneer of what used to be and talking up less as more.
We actually need a local paper, but a proper paper, a lot of people rely of people rely on this for their news, but if it was your only source of information, you can easily understand how you could be mistaken for believing everything in the garden is lovely.... and there's the problem.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: steveL on April 30, 2012, 10: AM
My mother used to keep copies of The Mail when significant events took place: the end of the war, the Coronation etc.

Today, I couldn't even guarantee the paper would cover such events on the front page if there was a competing 'bonnie baby' story.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Straight Talking on April 30, 2012, 11: AM
Quote from: beanzontoast on April 29, 2012, 07: PM
Labour candidates dont mention the 1.3 Trillion this country is in debt, due to 13 years in government, nor the cost to hospitals, schools etc. due to mass immigration, if you are a taxpayer you need to, well vote.

Again a simplification of the facts, the financial problems of the Labour Government began with the Banking Crisis. The decision to try to buy our way out of it with "quantitive easing" was agreed in Parliament by all political colours. What would you have had the Government do, put armed soldiers and police outside banks, to turn away the millions of savers who couldn't withdraw their money.

Have you forgotten the queues at Northern Rock so soon.

Your reference to MASS IMMIGRATION is untrue and used to purposely inflame the situation, it shows that scaremongering is your best weapon, there are still more emigrating from this country than immigrating so unless you are going to stop people leaving this country to set up elsewhere, we have no right to prevent those who wish to move here so long as they do so legally.

Our Universities make big money out of foreign students.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: The Great Dictator on April 30, 2012, 01: PM
Legally entered foreign nationals bring hard work and much needed culture to this country, its the illegal Calais/Dover immigrants that are the problem.
The lazy white english tw*ts are the big problem.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 30, 2012, 01: PM


How much gold did Brown sell off at bottom moey and how long was this before the banking crisis?

I don't know the answer so that's why I am asking!!

Also S.T. would you say you are from working class or would you say you had a middle class upbringing?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 30, 2012, 02: PM

Thanks P..I am shocked!!
Will someone kindly tell me give or take when the banking crisis first took hold..?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on April 30, 2012, 03: PM
Quote from: perseus on April 30, 2012, 02: PM
approximately 400 tonnes between 1999-2002, at rock bottom prices. since then it's price has more than quadrupled and overall the decision to sell has cost us roughly £7 Billion.... God bless the Iron Chancellor. Reverse alchemy... quite a talent.

Hmm...Gordon 'Paracelsus' Brown...gold transformed into base metal via arcane and mysterious rituals...fortunes told and fortunes lost...?   :-[
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: The Shadow on April 30, 2012, 03: PM
Gordon Brown? Isn't he the c*nt who raided my private pension and left millions of us who had worked hard and saved a hell of a lot worse off? Yeah I remember that b*st*rd!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on April 30, 2012, 07: PM
Quote from: kipperdip on April 30, 2012, 05: PM
Sorry Shadow, Silly of me to forget the £55 billion per year raid on the collective assets of the private pension holders.
I believe ( I might be slightly wrong) this continued over the 13 years of Labour occupation - well you could hardly describe it as a government could you?)
Grand total of this robbery haul £775 billion of your pension assets if over 13 years.

Is it any surprise that this w*n*er hasn't dared show his face in Parliament (well hardly anyway) since the electorate turfed him out on his ar**.

This clown did for economic credibility what Cyril Smith did for hang gliding.



See kipperdip this is why I like reading your posts..as they tell me something I didn't know rather than the same old same old..
Title: Re: Hartlepool Mail shutting office.
Post by: notinshadow on May 01, 2012, 12: AM

Fella got his ear biten off.

Council dishing out money to councillors pet projects.
NHS talking s**t.

That was about it really..same old same old..

Talking of the Mail looks like they deleted my post on their F.B. page.. ;D

I ring the N.E. tomorrow so f*c* em..