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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM

Title: Labour Wins Headland
Post by: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
I'm told the good doctor has triumphed. I'm delighted if it's true. We need more intelligent people as councillors.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
In other good news the UKIP wipeout has started. They've lost ALL of the 30 seats they were defending.

I'm delighted. Is it too early to crack open a small beer?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
I'm told the good doctor has triumphed. I'm delighted if it's true. We need more intelligent people as councillors.
If that's the case let's hope he can start change from within - otherwise we have a real problem in Hartlepool  >:(
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: steveL on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
Quote from: gerek on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
I'm told the good doctor has triumphed. I'm delighted if it's true. We need more intelligent people as councillors.
If that's the case let's hope he can start change from within - otherwise we have a real problem in Hartlepool  >:(

The full result is as follows:
Chris Broadbent - Conservatives - 210 votes
Tom Cassidy - (UKIP) - 532 votes
Mike McLaughlin - Labour Party - 555 votes
Lucy Patterson - Independent - 69 votes
The current make-up of Hartlepool Council is now Labour (19), UKIP (6), Independent (3), Local Conservatives (3) and Putting Hartlepool First (2).
The turnout for the by-election was 24.4%
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
In other good news the UKIP wipeout has started. They've lost ALL of the 30 seats they were defending.

I'm delighted. Is it too early to crack open a small beer?
You'd best crack it open now, because the way the results are going you might
as we'll celebrate restraining  a Labour seat by 20+ votes.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: stokoe on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
Shirley's happy



https://twitter.com/akersbelcher?lang=en
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: akarjl on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
I'm told the good doctor has triumphed. I'm delighted if it's true. We need more intelligent people as councillors.

You missed out the bit about " with balls and morals"

the jury is out if mama scabs is celebrating I don't have much hope of him having any effect on the Kremlin other than bending over for cwissie n co. Let's see if he reads this forum and has the balls to take action.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
I'm told the good doctor has triumphed. I'm delighted if it's true. We need more intelligent people as councillors.
The one good thing about this election is that finally there'll be someone there to explain big words and hard sums to the rest of them.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Land Phil on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
"He will be a great asset' ...what is he then. A bully, liar, fraudster, nodding donkey ?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: steveL on May 05, 2017, 08: AM
I'm afraid he won't amount to anything unless he is prepared to stand up for the right to have his own opinion and vote accordingly.

We'll spend the next couple of months with our fingers crossed - we should know by then.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Land Phil on May 05, 2017, 08: AM
I am just waiting for the headline now where Labour make claims that we have an A&E doctor working in the town again (all be it, in the civic).

Will people be waiting in the corridor on a trolley for 4 hours when he holds his first "surgery".

On a more serious note, isn't HBC supposed to scrutinise health services, so isn't he a massive conflict of interest?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
Quote from: Land Phil on May 05, 2017, 08: AM
so isn't he a massive conflict of interest?
............so what's new?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
Quote from: steveL on May 05, 2017, 08: AM
I'm afraid he won't amount to anything unless he is prepared to stand up for the right to have his own opinion and vote accordingly.

We'll spend the next couple of months with our fingers crossed - we should know by then.
I got the impression that the councillor he replaces jumped ship because of the present set up - he has 2 years to decide if the job's what it's cracked up to be
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: fred c on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
Being a Doctor, he might be able to transplant new spines into the likes of Clarke, Lindridge, Thomas, Harrison et al........time will tell, but to be fair to the fella, he could well surprise us all...... even the SCABS & Co.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
So no parking charges for the headland now ?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
So no parking charges for the headland now ?
Looks that way
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: WhatTheHeck on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: gerek on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
So no parking charges for the headland now ?
Looks that way

According to the agenda of the meeting, seasonal parking charges for the Headland were to be 'debated' alongside the Seaton Carew charges.

However the minutes show the it was decided not to introduce charges on the Headland.

Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: WhatTheHeck on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: gerek on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 05, 2017, 09: AM
So no parking charges for the headland now ?
Looks that way

According to the agenda of the meeting, seasonal parking charges for the Headland were to be 'debated' alongside the Seaton Carew charges.

However the minutes show the it was decided not to introduce charges on the Headland.

Draw your own conclusions.
...and as they have one Labour Councillor at H&H, as long as he behaves himself, parking charges will be off the agenda, however ...
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: testing times on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Let's not allow Labour to succeed in having wards fighting against each other. The answer is NOT to introduce parking charges on the Headland; the answer is to SCRAP them in Seaton.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: testing times on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Let's not allow Labour to succeed in having wards fighting against each other. The answer is NOT to introduce parking charges on the Headland; the answer is to SCRAP them in Seaton.
So the process they used was approve the charges at a Neighbourhood Services prior to a Full Council Meeting just before Christmas then, as the minutes hadn't been produced, stop any discussion at the Full Council Meeting later that day, even though details were on both the HBC and Hartlepool Mail sites.  Quickly approve them at the next Finance and Policy Meeting and enter a Trial Period thus preventing the need for consultation prior to their introduction, as the consultation will take place during the Trial Period - I may have missed some relevant steps, but that's the gist - simples

Unless we can come up with a very very strong case they won't be scrapped at Seaton and the same process as above will be used at H&H if the new councillor doesn't behave

By the way does anybody know which councillors are attending next weeks public meeting?
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: fred c on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: gerek on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: testing times on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Let's not allow Labour to succeed in having wards fighting against each other. The answer is NOT to introduce parking charges on the Headland; the answer is to SCRAP them in Seaton.
So the process they used was approve the charges at a Neighbourhood Services prior to a Full Council Meeting just before Christmas then, as the minutes hadn't been produced, stop any discussion at the Full Council Meeting later that day, even though details were on both the HBC and Hartlepool Mail sites.  Quickly approve them at the next Finance and Policy Meeting and enter a Trial Period thus preventing the need for consultation prior to their introduction, as the consultation will take place during the Trial Period - I may have missed some relevant steps, but that's the gist - simples

Unless we can come up with a very very strong case they won't be scrapped at Seaton and the same process as above will be used at H&H if the new councillor doesn't behave

By the way does anybody know which councillors are attending next weeks public meeting?
Quote from: testing times on May 05, 2017, 10: AM
Let's not allow Labour to succeed in having wards fighting against each other. The answer is NOT to introduce parking charges on the Headland; the answer is to SCRAP them in Seaton.

Well said.............what the parking charges in Seaton have done, is to alienate 3 or 4 thousand people who will probably vote for anyone but Labour on June 8th....... Great work by Mad Dog and her committee

Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Land Phil on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Serious question, where are you supposed to park to attend the consultation meeting ?

Would be good to know who from HBC will attend the meeting.
I would put money on MD not being there.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jeffh on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: Land Phil on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Serious question, where are you supposed to park to attend the consultation meeting ?

Would be good to know who from HBC will attend the meeting.
I would put money on MD not being there.
She'll probably send a representative as all questions on the matter now have to go straight to Peter Devlin.

From the Councillor Profiles this the makeup of the Neighborhood Services committee -

Beck, P         Member           Labour   Hart
A-Belcher, S   Vice-Chair   Labour   Jesmond
Hunter, D     Member           Labour   Burn Valley
James, M           Chair           Labour   Manor House
Loynes, B           Member           Con      Rural West
Robinson, J   Member      Labour   Hart
Springer, G   Member       UKIP   Jesmond

Though by now it wouldn't surprise me if Beck and SAB have both denied any involvement in said committee

What no Seaton or Headland councillor you may say - another committee not being formed as per the constitution - 1 Labour Councillor too many with an Independent / PHF missing - probably at work when they meet

The councillors in attendance will probably be the Seaton ones
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: WhatTheHeck on May 05, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from Gerek, 'The councillors in attendance will probably be the Seaton ones'...

Apart from Tom Hind who will no doubt hide !
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Exiled Poolie on May 05, 2017, 12: PM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
In other good news the UKIP wipeout has started. They've lost ALL of the 30 seats they were defending.

I'm delighted. Is it too early to crack open a small beer?

Hardly, seen the results around the rest of the UK? Marxist lefties / Momentum members such as you may have infiltratrated local Labour groups just as you have done in Hartlepool, but this is all (thankfully) making Labour unelectable in all but a few parts of the country.  :)
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 05, 2017, 02: PM
Quote from: Riddler5 on May 05, 2017, 07: AM
Quote from: Steely Dan on May 05, 2017, 06: AM
In other good news the UKIP wipeout has started. They've lost ALL of the 30 seats they were defending.

I'm delighted. Is it too early to crack open a small beer?
You'd best crack it open now, because the way the results are going you might
as we'll celebrate restraining  a Labour seat by 20+ votes.
I'd buy another tray of cans following the mayoral result.
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: jawsbbc on May 05, 2017, 06: PM
looks like cab has had a silver rinse  on his barnet by the looks  https://twitter.com/akersbelcher?lang=en
Title: Re: LABOUR WINS HEADLAND?
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 06, 2017, 07: AM
He might have went grey, shock is a funny thing.
It's like H'angus all over again, they assemble for another coronation where the seagull of fate dive bombs them. Maybe the old man has realised it's the beginning of the end.
Title: Re: Labour Wins Headland
Post by: stokoe on May 08, 2017, 08: AM
Looks as though hartlepool is not the only good doctor





http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/gp-who-enjoys-triathlons-running-12998273
Title: Re: Labour Wins Headland
Post by: Inspector Knacker on May 08, 2017, 01: PM
Looks like they could be going for the clean cut, cute, socially presentable type candidates. As opposed to the sartorially crumpled political obsessive with bad breath