The Mayor, the Youth Worker and the Cash-in-Hand Job

[grim reaper]

Just for the record Arc86, I'm not in PHF but it simply highlights how much the labour clowns in the council fear the groundswell towards them. 

Even you, a professed non labour plant, attempt to besmirch PHF at every opportunity. Very strange.   

With regard to the Rossmere site being run by the council and nothing to do with the scabs, WHY was 'everyone loves my Ste' allegedly bunging money to an employee if he had nothing to do with his employment? 
If the cash-in-hand job is true, there are serious questions to be asked, no matter how hard you try to do Teflon job on it. 

I wonder what your thoughts are on the MRA scandal and its manager, trustees and labour councillors that have backed her, despite the evidence against them all?
Second thoughts, I don't give a damn what you think about it, you're so predictable I KNOW!

Your last comment shows you are out of touch with the real world, or are part of theirs...very few people on here have a gripe with the LABOUR PARTY.
They have a serious passion against those in the Kremlin that pass themselves off as being Labour! 
As any REAL Labour/Socialist would.

[for fawkes sake]

Well I think your 'everyone's doing it' approach needs some explanation as an excuse for flouting employment law.

There is nothing circumstantial here - either he was given a Statement of Employment and Payslips or he wasn't - he wasn't. That is a breach of Employment law.

[steveL]

The thing is, guys, do you or anyone else, really think this is the way the Mayor of Hartleool should be behaving?

[ARC86]

Are you absolutely stupid or what? Where have i said there was or wasnt a bung? For the last time i have no connections to the local Labour group.. as for MRA have a look at thread and you will see how critical i have been with everyone involved.. what groundswell would that be? Third place in the Manor? They are just opportunists. I am entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours

on second thoughts dont bother because i do not have to explain myself to you

as i posted earlier anybody in breach of employment law should face the consequences

Hello Steve have you picked your prefered travellers site yet?

[steveL]

I'd go for Belle Vue Social Club myself.

[ARC86]

They already tried to put it there.. unfortunately they got knocked back lol

[Kitchnstauff]

What ever the fraud squad are going to do! they had better make it quick, the shredders have been working overtime at MRA and secret meetings between AW and K Cranney and the Management Committee all this week, something going down, watch this space.

[fred c]

ARC86 really does have a flee in his ear about PHF, like most members of PHF who post on here I do try to see things for what they are, personally i admit to voting labour most of my life, i have also been an active trade union member & accredited shop steward on numerous occasions.

So my thoughts on what goes on with "The Mob" running the town aren`t about The Labour Party, they are about an opportunistic number of individuals who have Highjacked the labour banner & dragged it through the S**t for their own self interests.

The point of this thread wasn`t to attack "Labour" or even to attack SAB, it was from what i can see from the replies on here, to raise concerns about an elected officers alleged behaviour towards an "Employee" of "Whoever" paid by "Whoever" & the "Manner" in which the individual was paid.

Quote from ARC86

"i am not defending anybody.. but you like everyone else on here assumes guilt without hearing both sides of the story"


The problem about hearing both sides of the story in Hartlepool is extremely difficult, made even more difficult by "The Dear Leader & The Mob" denying council tax payers the opportunity to actually ask questions at Full Council Meetings.

[ARC86]

Fred i am 100% behind you on your last point.. i raised it with the MP who said it was because things were getting out of hand in the council chamber.. ive never been to a full council meeting but those that do should have the right to ask whatever question they see fit.

my only gripe with PHF is there voting patterns or total lack of one.. i fail to see how they can govern without a whip it will just lead to unorganised chaos.. yes i call PHF opportunistic but that is what oppositions do.. PHF need to put some beef on the bones and let the people of Hartlepool know exactly what it is they would do if elected

[fred c]

Fred i am 100% behind you on your last point.. i raised it with the MP who said it was because things were getting out of hand in the council chamber.. ive never been to a full council meeting but those that do should have the right to ask whatever question they see fit.

ARC86

Thereby hangs part of the problem with what goes on within the labour Group, How does the MP know what goes on in the Council Chamber ?

He is obviously told by "The Dear Leader"...... Things were not getting out of control in the chamber, things were getting out of what he perceives to be "His Control" DRiddle asked a perfectly reasonable question of a councillor, he chose to answer a question that he thought had been asked, not the one that had actually been asked ( if you get my drift) he then proceeded to make a complete k**b of himself & ended up resorting to threats, it was to say the least a completely embarrasing episode for "The Mob"..... His next salute was for him to telephone DRiddles employer the following day & attempt to ( who knows what ).

The next step they took was to alter the towns constitution & Ban Public Questions.

Thats it plain & simple, there was nothing "out of hand" about what happened, there was only respectful behaviour shown by members of the public towards the officers & councillors present.

[Stevef]

Thats it plain & simple, there was nothing "out of hand" about what happened, there was only respectful behaviour shown by members of the public towards the officers & councillors present.

And utter contempt shown to the public by the Labour and Conservative councillors present.

[steveL]

"i raised it with the MP who said it was because things were getting out of hand in the council chamber"

I've never seen Wright in any council meeting which means that he's getting his information 2nd hand most likely from CAB.

By 'out of hand' I guess they mean that the questions were getting a little too awkward to answer. When Ged Hall threw a wobbler he stood up and claimed that Manor Residents and Who Cares (NE) were 'entirely different organisations.' Given that we all now know the true scale of just how much their accounts were intermingled it's interesting that no one is daring to claim that now.

The fact is that if it were not for public questions and public scrutiny we wouldn't have had the fraud squad now investigating Manor Residents and that's very much the way that the Labour Group and their Tory allies would have liked it to stay.

The right of the public to question it's council is important in any local authority but in Hartlepool it has proved to be abolutely essential.

[mk1]

i raised it with the MP who said it was because things were getting out of hand in the council chamber..

I presume 'the MP' was just as miffed when things got out of hand over his purchase of furniture/stereo equipment via his MP allowance.
Pity he was not able to 'do a SCAB' and simply change the rules so no one could ask him  about it again.

[TSteels]

 Taken from HMRC WEBSITE:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/working/intro/casual.htm

"What about cash in hand?

It's illegal for your employer to pay you cash in hand without deducting tax and National Insurance contributions from your wages.
If you accept money in this way, you risk losing your employment rights and the right to some benefits, such as:

-maternity or paternity leave
-sick pay
-Jobseeker's Allowance

In addition you could end up having to pay the tax and National Insurance contributions yourself.

If you suspect your employer of not paying tax or National Insurance contributions on your wages you can report them in confidence using the Tax Evasion Hotlineby following the link below:

http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kb5/hmrc/contactus/view.page?record=tRNNy6edopA"

Can we have some volunteers to make the call?

[ARC86]

I agree they should bring back public questions, the system may not have been perfect but it is certainly more accountable

tsteels nothing has been proven or disproven yet, it is an allegation, surely the person in question will indeed be getting in touch with HMRC wont they?