Brash calls CABs motion corrupt

[admin]

I'm told that people are trying to get MR on the agenda but it's not published yet so we'll have to wait and see.

[DRiddle]

It might be worth remembering that although meaningful public questions have been banned (sorry about that by the way), it is still possible to submit questions in writing which then might facilitate a debate on the issues raised by the question.

I've submitted two in writing for July 25th and although the wording of my questions might require a bit of tinkering, the central issues raised by the questions cannot, and i'm confident will not,  be ignored.

I realise the actual answers given will be scripted and potentially very trite, but any question asked by a member of the public can then be picked up on by any councillor and used to strengthen the point raised by the question.

So, if for example a member of the public were to ask questions on MRA, it would open the door for councillors who wanted to raise MRA as an issue to do so. Even Labour ones. 

I realise many members of HBC read this forum, and in openly stating this, I have 'shown my hand', but I think in this instance transparency is the key.

I also genuinely believe that there are SOME members of what I would call 'branded Labour' (as opposed to 'independent Labour') who actually feel as strongly as most people on this forum do on this issue.

It is impossible to be a genuine Labour Party supporter, and indeed a genuine socialist in the true sense of the word, and support any of the events of the last few weeks.

There are 19 councillors who call themselves 'Labour' (plus the 3 conservatives), so if Marjorie, Carl et al. want a bigger slice of the pie any time soon, there's no better opportunity than in this meeting.

There's what? 30k's worth of allowances up for grabs here? There's no better time than right now to try and grab them.

There is literally no better time for a leadership challenge. The big prize is up for grabs.

Don't worry about me posting in my name by the way. I've changed jobs and my boss is a socialist in the genuine sense of the word. 

Plus, I think he's ex-directory.







 

[Mr Mister]

Fat one with the beard??


I thought Angie Wilcox had resigned?

[Lord Elpus]

Brash was outstanding tonight, CAB looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights most of the night.  I bet it takes a few gins to calm him down.

Even Mad Dog looked like she'd shight a brick.

Bet its a long time before CAB takes Brash on again.

Well done Jonathan.

[fred c]

Brash was outstanding tonight, CAB looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights most of the night.  I bet it takes a few gins to calm him down.

Even Mad Dog looked like she'd shight a brick.

Bet its a long time before CAB takes Brash on again.

Well done Jonathan.

Well, i found out a few things tonight about members of "The Mob", the engineers essential value to the party is as a Water Carrier for the union man.

The Fat Boy is getting Fatter & i suppose most important of all is, that a Human Being can have a totally New Ars**ole Torn without actually dying.

Brash absoluely destroyed "The Dear Leader" who`s ar*e collapsed & he had to do a quicker U Turn than David Cameron, he made a complete & utter Tw*t of himself & it showed, the only one to offer any support was good ol Carl, who huffed & puffed a bit then sat down because he also realised he was beginning to make a Tw*t of himself.

Seldom have i seen such a humiliation of a councillor than i did tonight, i fear the asssessment by Simmonds of a, Jumped Up Benefits Clerk was a painfully prophetic one.

"The Dear Leader" was more like "The Dear Dear Ohhhh Dear Leader" tonight, what on earth are the labour group thinking of with their support for this "Man", his regime is completely discredited & he can put as much spin on it as he wants.....But...... He is in the S**t.

[misinformed]

my apologies but MR MISTER I laughed so loud at that one.. nice on........................ when is this pathetic saga we call ANGIEGATE ever going to end.. its getting silly now.. normal joe blog would of been locked up and the keys thrown away................. 
Bet CAB wish they never tried to silence Brash and others now... as he goes home and cries in a corner... what will they recover from this??

[Lord Elpus]

I hope Paul Thompson makes the recording of the evening available.

[Mr Mister]

I expected one or two Councillors to be slaughtered over grant funding tonight, doesn't sound like much of that took place.

WHAT A SHAME! MAYBE NEXT TIME!!

[fred c]

If it was a Boxing Match the ref would have stopped it before the end of the 1st round, Jonathon destroyed CAB, he hit him with that many shots he must have thought he was surrounded.

A very good night for local democracy... 11 out of 10 for Brashie.

[mk1]

CAB sh*t himself and neutered his own motion to within an inch of its life and rendered it essentially pointless.
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Oh dear. If the 2 fatt*ies can't deliver their side of the bargain with Angie (to continue  her funding so she can build up a pension before she gets her jail sentence) then she could take them down with her. Angie's male puppet master will not be happy the 'masterplan' has been derailed!

[mk1]

Anyone notice if Barclay's nose was glowing tonight?
I believe he is fond of a jar or two before he giggles his way through  council meetings.

[steveL]

Barclay had to empty his bladder half way through proceedings tonight and from the look on his face as he walked passed, I couldn't guarantee that he even knew that he was in the council chamber. 

I always find the body language most interesting during these occasions and watching the Labour side as it all progressed, it was pretty clear that this was very much a CAB thing and that he had little support from his own side apart from the ever-shrinking Carl. (He looked much taller when he was Chair)

As often happens, SABs impartiality went out of the window fairly quickly and as he snapped at various councillors it drew a few 'oooo, get you-s' from the gallery.

I think we're looking at a party in free-fall, burdened with a Leader now running entirely on personal spite. There's a saying in politics that a leader should keep his friends close but his enemies closer still and never was there a better demonstration of why than tonight.

If Labour lose in Manor, I think that will be the end of CAB.

[Lord Elpus]

On the subject of supplementary questions and the value of questions from Members of the Public.

Thank God we had questions from the Public which enabled the MRA debate to be raised again.  Public question make all the difference and we should be grateful to those who have the bottle to push for what is right.  Makes one realise why they are so windy about supplementary questions. 

It was a shame the Comrades once again stuck their heads in the sand of this issue.

[Lord Elpus]

Last night should be a wake up call for Hartlepool Labour Party they need to re evaluate what they stand for and who speaks for them.

There are some good people in the party who for years have sat back and watched a minority of egotistical, meglomaniacs take the party over.  That has not been in the best interest of Hartlepool or the Labour party.  I suppose it will take a serious 'crash and burn' situation before the rank and file rise up and change things.

We'll know it is about to happen when Richardson jumps ship again, for the good of the Party (he's used that one a few times) and stabs the SCAB's in the back.  You could really feel the love in the chamber last night.

[fred c]

It was interesting that several councillors expressed the opinion that the meeting was "Not a Good Meeting" the motives behind the labour proposal by CAB was nasty, petty, spiteful & personal, which is  what we have come to expect from "The Dear Leader".

He was backed up by the bullying manner of the Chairman, who took it upon himself to round on a couple of councillors, needless to say the barbs were aimed at the Indy side of the chamber, not a word to the members of "The Mob".....Incidentally, I hope i am not standing in front of the Big Boy if any Buttons Pop off his shirt.... they could end up taking someones eye out.

Carls became quite indignant at one point, huffing & puffing in a Cameo performance that brought back memories of his own chairmanship, but it was a forlorn effort on his part as Brash dismissed him with almost total contempt.

Apart from those 2 the majority of the Labour Group appeared to be in a state of stunned embarrasment, the only the plus side for labour was Cllr Ainslie, who again displayed the right & proper behaviour expected of a councillor, more members of his party would benefit fom his example.