I'm told that people are trying to get MR on the agenda but it's not published yet so we'll have to wait and see.
It might be worth remembering that although meaningful public questions have been banned (sorry about that by the way), it is still possible to submit questions in writing which then might facilitate a debate on the issues raised by the question.
I've submitted two in writing for July 25th and although the wording of my questions might require a bit of tinkering, the central issues raised by the questions cannot, and i'm confident will not, be ignored.
I realise the actual answers given will be scripted and potentially very trite, but any question asked by a member of the public can then be picked up on by any councillor and used to strengthen the point raised by the question.
So, if for example a member of the public were to ask questions on MRA, it would open the door for councillors who wanted to raise MRA as an issue to do so. Even Labour ones. ;)
I realise many members of HBC read this forum, and in openly stating this, I have 'shown my hand', but I think in this instance transparency is the key.
I also genuinely believe that there are SOME members of what I would call 'branded Labour' (as opposed to 'independent Labour') who actually feel as strongly as most people on this forum do on this issue.
It is impossible to be a genuine Labour Party supporter, and indeed a genuine socialist in the true sense of the word, and support any of the events of the last few weeks.
There are 19 councillors who call themselves 'Labour' (plus the 3 conservatives), so if Marjorie, Carl et al. want a bigger slice of the pie any time soon, there's no better opportunity than in this meeting.
There's what? 30k's worth of allowances up for grabs here? There's no better time than right now to try and grab them.
There is literally no better time for a leadership challenge. The big prize is up for grabs.
Don't worry about me posting in my name by the way. I've changed jobs and my boss is a socialist in the genuine sense of the word. ;)
Plus, I think he's ex-directory.
Fat one with the beard??
I thought Angie Wilcox had resigned?
Brash was outstanding tonight, CAB looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights most of the night. I bet it takes a few gins to calm him down.
Even Mad Dog looked like she'd shight a brick.
Bet its a long time before CAB takes Brash on again.
Well done Jonathan.
Quote from: Lord Elpus on July 25, 2013, 10: PM
Brash was outstanding tonight, CAB looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights most of the night. I bet it takes a few gins to calm him down.
Even Mad Dog looked like she'd shight a brick.
Bet its a long time before CAB takes Brash on again.
Well done Jonathan.
Well, i found out a few things tonight about members of "The Mob", the engineers essential value to the party is as a Water Carrier for the union man.
The Fat Boy is getting Fatter & i suppose most important of all is, that a Human Being can have a totally New Ars**ole Torn without actually dying.
Brash absoluely destroyed "The Dear Leader" who`s ar*e collapsed & he had to do a quicker U Turn than David Cameron, he made a complete & utter Tw*t of himself & it showed, the only one to offer any support was good ol Carl, who huffed & puffed a bit then sat down because he also realised he was beginning to make a Tw*t of himself.
Seldom have i seen such a humiliation of a councillor than i did tonight, i fear the asssessment by Simmonds of a, Jumped Up Benefits Clerk was a painfully prophetic one.
"The Dear Leader" was more like "The Dear Dear Ohhhh Dear Leader" tonight, what on earth are the labour group thinking of with their support for this "Man", his regime is completely discredited & he can put as much spin on it as he wants.....But...... He is in the S**t.
my apologies but MR MISTER I laughed so loud at that one.. nice on........................ when is this pathetic saga we call ANGIEGATE ever going to end.. its getting silly now.. normal joe blog would of been locked up and the keys thrown away.................
Bet CAB wish they never tried to silence Brash and others now... as he goes home and cries in a corner... what will they recover from this??
I hope Paul Thompson makes the recording of the evening available.
I expected one or two Councillors to be slaughtered over grant funding tonight, doesn't sound like much of that took place.
WHAT A SHAME! MAYBE NEXT TIME!!
If it was a Boxing Match the ref would have stopped it before the end of the 1st round, Jonathon destroyed CAB, he hit him with that many shots he must have thought he was surrounded.
A very good night for local democracy... 11 out of 10 for Brashie.
Quote from: perseus on July 25, 2013, 09: PM
CAB sh*t himself and neutered his own motion to within an inch of its life and rendered it essentially pointless.
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Oh dear. If the 2 fatt*ies can't deliver their side of the bargain with Angie (to continue her funding so she can build up a pension before she gets her jail sentence) then she could take them down with her. Angie's male puppet master will not be happy the 'masterplan' has been derailed!
Anyone notice if Barclay's nose was glowing tonight?
I believe he is fond of a jar or two before he giggles his way through council meetings.
Barclay had to empty his bladder half way through proceedings tonight and from the look on his face as he walked passed, I couldn't guarantee that he even knew that he was in the council chamber. ::)
I always find the body language most interesting during these occasions and watching the Labour side as it all progressed, it was pretty clear that this was very much a CAB thing and that he had little support from his own side apart from the ever-shrinking Carl. (He looked much taller when he was Chair)
As often happens, SABs impartiality went out of the window fairly quickly and as he snapped at various councillors it drew a few 'oooo, get you-s' from the gallery.
I think we're looking at a party in free-fall, burdened with a Leader now running entirely on personal spite. There's a saying in politics that a leader should keep his friends close but his enemies closer still and never was there a better demonstration of why than tonight.
If Labour lose in Manor, I think that will be the end of CAB.
On the subject of supplementary questions and the value of questions from Members of the Public.
Thank God we had questions from the Public which enabled the MRA debate to be raised again. Public question make all the difference and we should be grateful to those who have the bottle to push for what is right. Makes one realise why they are so windy about supplementary questions.
It was a shame the Comrades once again stuck their heads in the sand of this issue.
Last night should be a wake up call for Hartlepool Labour Party they need to re evaluate what they stand for and who speaks for them.
There are some good people in the party who for years have sat back and watched a minority of egotistical, meglomaniacs take the party over. That has not been in the best interest of Hartlepool or the Labour party. I suppose it will take a serious 'crash and burn' situation before the rank and file rise up and change things.
We'll know it is about to happen when Richardson jumps ship again, for the good of the Party (he's used that one a few times) and stabs the SCAB's in the back. You could really feel the love in the chamber last night.
It was interesting that several councillors expressed the opinion that the meeting was "Not a Good Meeting" the motives behind the labour proposal by CAB was nasty, petty, spiteful & personal, which is what we have come to expect from "The Dear Leader".
He was backed up by the bullying manner of the Chairman, who took it upon himself to round on a couple of councillors, needless to say the barbs were aimed at the Indy side of the chamber, not a word to the members of "The Mob".....Incidentally, I hope i am not standing in front of the Big Boy if any Buttons Pop off his shirt.... they could end up taking someones eye out.
Carls became quite indignant at one point, huffing & puffing in a Cameo performance that brought back memories of his own chairmanship, but it was a forlorn effort on his part as Brash dismissed him with almost total contempt.
Apart from those 2 the majority of the Labour Group appeared to be in a state of stunned embarrasment, the only the plus side for labour was Cllr Ainslie, who again displayed the right & proper behaviour expected of a councillor, more members of his party would benefit fom his example.
Last night was also a good example of why we need supplementary questions.
I asked 2 questions in writing last night. The first question was used as an opportunity for one Akers-Belcher to harp on about the new governance system. The second question was used by the other Akers-Belcher to talk about the wonderful charity work he does and how hard he works for the people of his ward.
Neither answer from either of them actually addressed the crux of my questions. Had I had the opportunity for follow up questions, I could have probed further.
Also, Ray Wells pointed out that he hadn't heard a supplementary question in recent months that linked in any way to the original question posed.
Ray, it's wasn't the job of the public to ensure that supplementary questions were linked to the original written question. That's why you have a chairman of the meeting and a monitoring officer. It was their job to ensure that.
In making that statement you're inferring that the Chairman of the meeting failed in his duties.
As if he'd do that.... ::)
Fact of the matter is...
We still haven't got to the bottom of the money Hargreaves and Thompson have received via the grant applications process.
Surely the idea of grants, is not for a couple of local councillors to earn money from it, surely the money should be gained by those who put the grant application in, in the first place.
This is when arrogance takes over from common sense. Does CAB think no one reads his Twitter comments? Does he not realise how such comments can be thrown back at him?
As I said earlier, the body language is always the giveaway in these situations but in CAB's case it was the increasingly deep red colour of his face as he realised his spiteful ruse had backfired bigtime. As for things 'all going to plan', SAB's impartiallity going out of the window and his snapping at the opposition tell us all we need to know about how smoothly things were going.
Both SCABS seem to operate on the basis that if you say something often enough, perhaps it will come true but if I could choose one word to describe them, a polite word,that is, it would be INEPT and while CAB looked flummoxed, out-manoevered and inept last night, I think the rest of the Labour Group simply looked embarassed.
Quote from: perseus on July 26, 2013, 08: AM
By the way, a late night tweet from CAB is attempting to claim he planned it all.
C Akers-Belcher @AkersBelcher
Hook, line and sinker. Red herring amended at 11th hour & the real resolution str8 thru no bother #fools
If CAB sees this as a victory I wish him many more just like it. Nobody is fooled by this spin least of all the Comrades.
SteveL mentioned body language, Stubbs demeanor was one of nervous embarrassment. I'd be amazed if he had not warned CAB well away from this Motion.
Alyson Carman needs to gen up on some basic Council Constitution rules. As Perseus said, she failed to answer the most basic questions. That is worrying, her comment that Geoff Lilley should have submitted the questions before the meeting made me wonder if one of the SCABS would have told her the right answer.
Wish I was there to see it, cant be too long now before the rest of the Labour group decide to remove him from his perch, he's becoming an embarrassment to them.
Glad it was Brash who give it too him, in my eyes you shouldn't be kicked out of your political party for defending free speech, I'm very surprised that the likes of Simmonds and Ainsley are allowing this to happen, I had these two down as clever decent men but I may be wrong.
Sounds like 'Calamity Chris' has struck out again ;D
Quote from: Mr Mister on July 26, 2013, 08: AM
Fact of the matter is...
We still haven't got to the bottom of the money Hargreaves and Thompson have received via the grant applications process.
Surely the idea of grants, is not for a couple of local councillors to earn money from it, surely the money should be gained by those who put the grant application in, in the first place.
That's a very serious allegation Mr Mister, have you got any proof?
Those that were there last night will have heard that CAB's allegations were little more than a regurgitation of similar allegations made two years ago which had already been dismissed by the Chief Solicitor. Regurgitation it may have been, embellished with a liberal amount of bitchy innuendo, but it was all that CAB could come up with in his obsession to score points over Brash - this time by having a go at his wife.
One thing which was very notable last night was the totally dismissive attitude by Labour to everything that is going on with Wilcox and Manor Residents - including their committment to go on funding the organisation even in the face of illegality. The revelation that SAB and BECK are themselves personally liable for Manor Residents debts, including what looks like being nearly £40,000 in compensation payments, floated over SAB's empty head unnoticed.
CAB is far more interested trawling the gossip corridors deperately trying to find something to stick on Brash and I guarantee that CAB has spent more time on this than he has spent worrying about whether tribunal winners will ever get their compensation.
It was pathetic to watch.
The proposal he himself had put forward would have politicised the tendering process and what happened with the Who Cares(NE) Project wpould have become standard for all contracts with the largest political group deciding who should get what contract. This would include the HEALTHWATCH contract which runs out in the next few months and which currently pays CABs salary as a HEALTHWATCH Manager.
It was pretty clear from what was said last night that such political control over contracts would in fact be illegal but as we've seen from Wilcox, legality isn't that high on the list for Labour even when the people on the receiving end of that illegality are the very people the party claims to represent.
It was nothing more than a crude attempt at a power grab for personal and political advantage and it was fun watching it blow up in his face.
"The Dear Leaders" attempt to give last nights meeting half a dozen coats of Dulux Gloss is as anyone in Attendance will tell you, hilarious....... to call a spade a shovel..............
He made a complete "Rip Roaring James Hunt Of Himself" & he was closely followed off the starting grid by Ste (they love him as the ceremonial mayor) Akers Belcher & Carl Richardson aka, Che.
2 of the highlights of the evenings entertainment bore testement to that old adage, a Look Is Often Worth a Thousand Words.
Brash dismissed both SAB & Carl with looks as if to say, (In the words of Captain Mainwaring) Sit Down You Stupid Boys.
Whoever wears the trousers in the labour group really needs to sort "The Mob" out, on last nights performance Brash will be a serious candidate in a General Election Campaign.
Quote from: perseus on July 26, 2013, 08: AM
By the way, a late night tweet from CAB is attempting to claim he planned it all.
C Akers-Belcher @AkersBelcher
Hook, line and sinker. Red herring amended at 11th hour & the real resolution str8 thru no bother #fools
Late Night Tweet, ohhh that explains it then, a few slurps in Westbrooke Ave, the 2 of them Staring at the Moon & Then Complete Bo**ox on Twitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PgHiQRm4wI
Quote from: perseus on July 26, 2013, 08: AM
By the way, a late night tweet from CAB is attempting to claim he planned it all.
C Akers-Belcher @AkersBelcher
Hook, line and sinker. Red herring amended at 11th hour & the real resolution str8 thru no bother #fools
...sounds like........ the captain of the Titanic telling everyone he taught the iceberg a lesson...f!
I liked that one :D
Quote from: Vincent on July 26, 2013, 10: AM
That's a very serious allegation Mr Mister, have you got any proof?
Well if it's a serious allegation, then might I suggest you run along and tell them to instigate legal proceedings without hesitation.
Then they will see exactly what I can prove!
As someone living outside the town(ex rift house) I love looking at the site and the way the kremlin are bought to book. If it wasn't for the people here the bounders(insert own word if u like) would get away with murder.Reading the way that Cllr Brash ripped another ring piece to Cllr Akers-Belcher was a joy to read.
Can you not give Cllr Brash an award for honesty,decency and for standing up to his ex buddies.Having looked at the deluded tweet from blondie, is is true what they say about blondes surely he should now be known as Baldrick. Keep up the sterling work
Perseus
You and I on this subject are poles apart, HTH these days are knocking one out over the ginger fella, I understand he pulled C.A.B. apart, but in truth, I don't think that such an amazing thing to do.
People on this forum have forgot the past seemingly, when it comes to the ginger one, he wasn't any good for this town in the past, he put his hand up when told too, now they're are calling him "Braveheart" ..Get a grip Hartlepool Post.
Even had the ex leader of P.H.F. blowing smoke about it yesterday, clearly to me he's trying to butter him up.
Short memories regarding the part he played in the demise of the town's hospital, while he's dad it has to be said did rather well out of it.
Wake up it's 2013
This seems to sum the situation up quite nicely.
http://youtu.be/fdSLP-qz_fw
Well if CAB isn't already in therapy after Thursday night, he will be after reading this.
http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/braveheart.htm (http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/braveheart.htm)
My favourite bit.....
" . . . We know that Christopher Akers-Belcher is the Leader of the Council because he misses no opportunity to tell us so, but I wonder if he really understands that the word 'Leader' implies some degree of Leadership. Gary Glitter, for example, also spent much of his time telling us that he was 'The Leader of the Gang', but I think most of us secretly knew that he lacked the required qualities to make a go of it . . . '
effing brilliant and scarily accurate
Quote from: Mr Mister on July 27, 2013, 09: AM
People on this forum have forgot the past seemingly, when it comes to the ginger one, he wasn't any good for this town in the past, he put his hand up when told too, now they're are calling him "Braveheart" ..Get a grip Hartlepool Post.
I for one have had problems with Brash's politics in the past and still do. His stance on the payment of union officials by taxpayers for one. An interesting little debate which got over shadowed by main spectacle last Thursday.
However this site is all about protecting the interests of the ordinary people of Hartlepool by scrutinising and reporting on the activities of our council. Especially those who act out of self interest, either for political or personal gain.
Councillor Brash's defence of the publics right to ask supplementary questions and challenge our elected representatives, and his opposition to the Labour groups attempt to put the awarding of council contracts under (their) political control, are as good a match to those objectives as you can get.
The fact that these were done out of principle and not self interest adds considerable merit.
Its true to say that Councillor Brash is unlikely to ever be asked to join HTH, but I don't see why his efforts on these maters should be ignored.
Merit where Merit is due.
SteveF
I've met you a few times and I know you're switched on, so what went wrong this morning..
Of course it was self interest, he knew he was going nowhere with Labour, he was looking for a cause to cling to and questions came along.. nothing more, nothing less.
Mr & Mrs Brash very much would like to replace the Scabs and that's what this is all about..
Come on mate, you know better! :) x
Quote from: perseus on July 28, 2013, 12: PM
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/hartlepool-mayor-insists-he-will-not-resign-over-role-in-crisis-hit-charity-1-5895443
Well, if the comments and reaction to this article are anything to go by, it looks like the mayor doesn't quite have the support he thinks he does.
The Link gives a fairly accurate assessment of peoples feelings towards the behaviour of this "Man" & his fellow self servers, the unfortunate thing is, that The Mail should be instigating serious articles to look at the Manor & WCN/E organisations, they should be asking the people of the Manor their opinion & then investigating what they are told.
Instead what do they do......... Publish the Propaganda & Bulls**t produced by "The Mob", the Editorial Policy of the paper is a disgrace to any serious journalist, they should be out looking for column inches.... not waiting for them to drop through the letter box in an envelope franked with a Labour Stamp.
Quote from: perseus on July 28, 2013, 12: PM
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/hartlepool-mayor-insists-he-will-not-resign-over-role-in-crisis-hit-charity-1-5895443
Well, if the comments and reaction to this article are anything to go by, it looks like the mayor doesn't quite have the support he thinks he does.
The Comments section to this Article has disappeared.....
Quote from: fred c on July 28, 2013, 07: PM
Quote from: perseus on July 28, 2013, 12: PM
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/hartlepool-mayor-insists-he-will-not-resign-over-role-in-crisis-hit-charity-1-5895443
Well, if the comments and reaction to this article are anything to go by, it looks like the mayor doesn't quite have the support he thinks he does.
The Comments section to this Article has disappeared.....
I noticed that earlier but the site is chaotic and comments vanish on a regular basis.
There were 21+ comments and every one was negative. Some were very personal remarks about about the big fat fella so I bet the censor has pulled the lot to remove the worst and sanitise the remainder and repost them.
It is comical to see the little fat fella running about trying to convince himself everyone loves his grossly overweight partner (hopefully not the same way he was 'loved' when he went missing in Bournmouth!) and how popular they both are.
Popular my ar*se!
Did you see the gem in the Mail where CAB was quoted as saying he did not want to 'discredit the credibility' of the enquiry.
How exactly do you discredit credibility?
Some of the posts about both of them are unfair, mine included sometimes, I took the mick out of his hair cut yesterday, which was unfair really, it's wrong, as it makes it personal against him and I don't mind him really, the couple of times I have spoken to him and asked him what I wanted, he answered me, told me his view etc. he not a bad fella.
The problem is of course, his actions regarding Manor Residents & their ex staff was cowardly, he was in a position to do something and bottled it, stuck his head in the sand and hoped it would go away, he should have had a Kennedy moment, followed by an A.G.M. pushed for a vote on Angie and took it from there, then resigned, instead he showed how he doesn't give a toss about anyone but them.. how very sad.
His sell by date is approaching, Christopher's too, the Labour group are not going to want to be mugged off for the next few years by two of their own, this is not going to improve, problem is... who are they going to replace them with, after what happened to Mad Dog she will be plotting against them, along with her little crowd.
Business is picking up with local politics now, it's not quite the one horse race it was in every ward now.
Its a pity the Mail aren`t a bit more selective about the "Tripe" they publish in articles concerning "The Dear Leader & The Mob", they should look at issues in a more objective manner, instead of acting as the propaganda mouthpiece of this particular regime.
It appears the comments have been removed and you are no longer allowed to criticise the big fat fella. The confirmation that the SCAB's are deeply unpopular moved them to have a word with Joy and she airbrushed this awkward fact from the record.
Just to give everyone an idea of who is aligning themselves with whom these days and to add another persepctive to last Thursday's meeting.
This is a complaint letter by Angie Wilcox sent to Peter Devlin, the Chief Solicitor on July 5th, around the same time that Wilcox resigned. I'm assuming that this is the letter to which Cath Hill referred during the meeting. We've heard talk that the two letters were written at the same time as a joint effort but we have no way of knowing for sure. Even so, you can get a picture of the common approach that has been adopted and the alignment between all three.
5th July 2013
Dear Peter,
Whistle Blowing – Complaint
It would be remiss of me to not put on record the fact that two former cabinet members (Brash and Hargreaves) together with a central community organisation (HVDA) knowingly and actively conspired and campaigned against Voluntary Organisations in the south of the town namely Manor Residents Association and Who Cares NE. I am of the firm belief this was to position themselves as an alternative to those providers currently delivering services and no doubt the future shall determine whether they expose themselves as competitors. I understand all information proving their collusion was provided to you by the Leader in August 2011 and subsequently to Tom Mitchell as part of the public inquiry. These two disgraced Councillors have now been expelled from the national Labour Party for failing to uphold the minimum standards of the Labour Party and their current usage of social media against members of this Council is a direct breach of our Code of Conduct and the Nolan principles.
Additionally I would further like to take this opportunity to duly report my own concerns about the actions of Councillor Hargreaves, who together with her husband Councillor Brash have relentlessly and publicly criticised the organisation for who I work. Whilst pointing the finger of suspicion at others Councillor Hargreaves has failed to declare providing services to the Council and as an elected member this is a criminal offence. These services have been invoiced to the Council under her private company of XIVVI Ltd and would question the procurement route the awarding of such services has undertaken. Other service providers, co-founded by Councillor Hargreaves (Women What Do) have similarly been delivering work for the Council and again failed to be declared. I would hope now is the time the Council expedites a similar investigation to the Public Inquiry to look at the commissioning of services within the private sector with particular emphasis on those connected to elected members. As this is a criminal offence under law I feel the police should be notified at the earliest opportunity to maintain the integrity of the Council. I also would call upon those very same Councillors to resign their positions on the Council as they have failed to adhere to the Council's Code of Conduct but also they have no mandate on the Council as they were elected as Labour Councillors but were expelled for failing to meet the minimum of standards expected of Labour Party members. Additionally both members are board members of Families First, which as an organisation that utilises the DWP 'Back to Work' programme and ultimately workers are paid at their benefit level that is far below the minimum wage. Ultimately this is no better than slave Labour whereby staff are working for their benefits, whilst Managers are funded from tax payer's money and Trustees such as Councillor Hargreaves are utilising the same premises for the profit of their private business. This is morally wrong as is this the Council providing free garage facilities to the vehicles in ownership of Families First.
Please can you look into the above and alternatively I am willing to ask why this has not been fully investigated and reported to the police as a public question at Full Council.
Yours Sincerely,
Ms Angela Wilcox
Who ever begins a thread adds a Subject at the top of their post which then becomes the Title of the whole thread and also the default Subject of every post. However, posters can still change the subject of an individual post to reflect the actual content of that post. If a poster choses not to do so then the default Title is used.
So in my own posts case, Brash's performance at last Thursday's meeting was all about allegations aimed at Hargreaves and the move to gain political control over contracts. Another aspect to this, but still related to the content of the meeting, was Wilcox's complaint letter which also was about the same thing. Angie's complaint letter didn't warrant a thread of it's own as its contents were connected to a already existing thread.
Another good reason to use your own subjects on posts is that they appear on the forum summary on the front page.
One thing is for certain, Angelina Ballerina didn`t write that letter, will that particular legal bill for services rendered be appearing in MRA`s next accounts ?
All the comments on the Hargreaves story on the Mail site have been deleted.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/contracts-probe-is-a-vendetta-says-councillor-1-5908602
It should be noted that without exception the comments were very critical of the SCAB's and nothing at all 'bad' about Hargreaves was mentioned. Yet again the two fat blokes have been shielded from reality.
Thats The Mail for you :( :( :(
To mk1 and others. If you are unhappy with the Mail for whatever reason, write to the Editor and ask her why censorship exists at the Mail. After all newspapers are the first ones to cause a stir when their idea of a free press (in otherwords censorship) is challenged. If no satisfaction at the local level then write to the MD. Publish their replies if they still don't meet with your satisfaction. The only way to fight this is to expose it and hit them where it hurts, their pocket. Stop buying the Mail but let them know why you are not buying it.
To be fair to The Mail, I can't help feeling that it's 20% censorship (strings pulled by the A-B's & Mob), 30% idleness because they can't be arsed to check up on things and 50% inexperience of the journalists. There some kids in that office - its like Bugsy Malone with word processors! They are running it on a shoestring, its printed out of town, threatened by staff cuts, fed tripe to fill up space and padded out with crap from South Shields and Yorkshire, consequently the morale of the staff is rock bottom. Perfect for manipulation by those who have axes to grind or publicity to seek. A-B's giving each other pressies, Wells whinging about Tunstall Court, Mr & Mrs Brash being victimised by Hartlepool Labour Party (trying to be balanced). The Mail is a political football in the town.
I can no longer endure reading these posts and not chipping in so hello everyone!
Could Hartlepool Post please list all media contacts they know of and readers/posters should get in touch to demand action and coverage on these disgraceful events!
Quote from: brassed off monkey on July 31, 2013, 06: PM
One thing is for certain, Angelina Ballerina didn`t write that letter, will that particular legal bill for services rendered be appearing in MRA`s next accounts ?
I don't think the labour party would trust Wilcox to write letters like that one. It may just be me but doesn't the grammar seem familiar? reminds me of a certain anonymous leaflet that went around the Fens accusing councillor Lilly of being disrespectful to women (or something like that).
One of the things you notice on a forum is that everyone has their own way of writing, something which is hard to change or fake.
Just my own opinion.
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1774/e5dq.jpg) (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/e5dq.jpg/)
Can somebody tell me out of interest, what Christopher is wearing around his neck please?
Also, Labours Councillor Fisher got in the picture I see, not like him to miss a chance of a picture in the paper for doing nothing! AGAIN.
"20 pieces of silver" No.. just stick him on a couple of panels and he's bought & paid for, ready for use when required, politics in Hartlepool is a funny old business to be in.
I thought the picture of the Carnival Queen was more appropriate.