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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: christine blakey on April 15, 2012, 07: PM

Title: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: christine blakey on April 15, 2012, 07: PM
I wondered if we could politely evaluate leaflets on this thread?

I was told that te Electoral Commission rely on feedback from candidates and the public if a leaflet is significantly incorrect or breaching/breaking law/guidelines.

Would be interesting to know but please keep this clean as it is after all, our future we are playing with.  Let us get the messages right?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: The Shadow on April 15, 2012, 08: PM
I haven't had a leaflet or a knock at the door yet.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: christine blakey on April 15, 2012, 09: PM
You should be getting something soon as I got a Labour leaflet this morning.

I had a conservative leaflet nearly two weeks ago and I know that another Conservative will be on it's way.

I am sure the other candidates will be sending you information via the letterbox soon.

I know the newspaper starts it ward per day spread on 17 April or so.

Then I am sure people will be knocking on doors or offering meetings asap too.

Personally I think all candidates should work together to ensure that everyone understands what each candidate or party offers.  The differing time tables and resources could sadly impact on votes for the best candidates for the Ward.  Maybe this thread will help some?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on April 15, 2012, 10: PM
I got a leaflet from Paul Thompson (Seaton) today. Didn't address any of the big issues like A&E so filed it in the recycling bin.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: christine blakey on April 15, 2012, 11: PM
I would be interested in seeing it.  Could HTH scan all leaflets on here?

Paul got favour from the ward because he said he would address the landfill and other environmental concerns.  Yet he does not get involved in debates where he could try to influence change as he promised.

He mocked my disability stating that I used my wheelchair for effect, that is not only against his principles as a Councillor but as the Manager of Hartlepool Families First.  This was especially cutting as he referred to a very bad health day when I dragged myself to a site meeting for Hartfield's Retirement Village, where my actions recognised the fears of the residents within the village.

I didn't hear Paul making comment in order to look at resolving the matter at hand and paying more attention towards me is totally inappropriate.

That said, I am furious that there is a delay spanning over two years whereby they are still trying to grapple with a sensible plan.  This should have been sorted by Councillors and Officers.  Again another rift across the whole of Middle Warren estate.  The park is necessary and they should have built it by now.

There are other concerns that I do not want to mention as yet but the above is enough for me as he has made dealing with my disability much harder as if I needed that!  No apology does not help also.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on April 16, 2012, 12: PM
"He mocked my disability"

...that has 100% guaranteed he won't be getting my vote.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: marky on April 16, 2012, 02: PM
I think I'm being ignored - I haven't had anything yet
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: christine blakey on April 16, 2012, 02: PM
Which area are you in Marky?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: notinshadow on April 16, 2012, 03: PM

I think this might be nearer the truth, not that I care either way especially.

There was a meeting up there for councillors, of which you were not one, (res reps don't count).

As I understand it, you were asked repeatedly to stop making comments and when you kept butting in, the councillors decided as you were in a wheel chair to walk across the grass to get away from you.

You were not happy about it and had a Little Britain moment, got up out your wheel chair and rushed over to not miss anything.

Of course to those there it was humourous, so the story was repeated to all and sundry at your expense.

There is no need to tell untruths about him, as there are plenty of truths that would stop people voting for him if they look.

Indy No.. Labour Yes.. he puts his hand up when Labour require him to and if his unsure he starts texting for advice.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: Ryehill on April 17, 2012, 10: AM
Notinshadow, what is the point of your post. Is it just to get a cheap laugh at Christine's expense?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: steveL on April 17, 2012, 12: PM
What has any of this got to do with leaflet evaluations?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: The Shadow on April 18, 2012, 12: AM
I still haven't had one. Should I be worried or pleased?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: codheadless on April 18, 2012, 02: AM
you probably have thousands of your own to deliver :)
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: notinshadow on April 18, 2012, 03: AM
Ryhill
I understand you are cross with me, as I have rubbed you up the wrong way over the UKIP bit but my comments were not a cheap shot at anyone.
I sit here reading the personal attack on Paul Thompson, (who I don't even like much) knowing that what is being said is untrue.
How do I know?? because it was Paul Thompson who told me about it and me that mentioned it to Christine some time after.
So I think I am in a position to know who said what, so when I hear it said by Christine in the way it is said, I know that to be untrue in the context she puts it.
The facts of the matter I don't believe are disputed, more just the who said what bit.
I am sorry Ryhill that I seemed to have rubbed you up the wrong way, but sadly my friend, I have that effect on people it is often said, so feel free to join the rest that feel hard done by.
Kind Regards.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: notinshadow on April 18, 2012, 04: AM
Vote Independent vote Paul Thompson (don't make me laugh)

Today all my neighbours got their election leaflet from Paul Thompson.
By mistake (not) my house was left out..but as I was walking the dog I bumped into a kid out delivering them so got one from him.

What a load of old tosh!!
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: dangerman on April 18, 2012, 07: AM
I thought that if someone was standing for election they would be delivering their own leaflets, this would offer an opportunity to ask that prospective cadidate any questions. How silly of me to think that.

Seems now I'll have to ask the paper boy!

Also dont believe for one minute he's Independent both he and Cath Hill are most certainly Labour, and as for Mike Turner I've never even seen or met the man. Who is he?

You can bet whoever is elected will go back into the woodwork never to be seen till the next election.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: The Shadow on April 18, 2012, 06: PM
Finally had my first leaflet delivered! I'll work out how to put a picture of it on here

*edit* anybody know how I put a picture on here I have taken?
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: notinshadow on April 18, 2012, 06: PM

What's that they say about conning some of the people some of the time.

I guess you will blag a leaflet from the Headland or West View rather than the area covering Greatham...lol...you're a slippery old sod.. ;D
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: notinshadow on April 19, 2012, 02: PM

Just got two leaflet together from the same delivery boy again I think.

This time Cath Hill and Mike Turner.

M.T. goes on about the tip and what he said and did..I wish someone would break it down for him.

They never got the tip shut, the tip got full, it's a f***i*g mountain, you couldn't have got much more on there if they had tried.

Admittedly now the smell has gone, it's not the issue it was, but as for him being a player trying to sort it, I don't think I would agree.

Funny how the other Seaton councillor, as Christine mentioned the other day, came in last time round on lies as what he was or wasn't going to do to ensure the tip was shut down to protect our public health, then did f*c* all once he was elected, eccept taking 5k donation or whatever it was, for the group he works for.

Cath Hill goes on about being a councillor for 15 years and what improvements she has been responsible for and that she is an indy despite what people read in the Mail.

Tosh Tosh and Tosh..covered over by a moutain of bull***t.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: christine blakey on April 19, 2012, 02: PM
As a resident and Resident Representative, I have watched with alarm in Full Council meetings as Councillors stay silent on these emotive topics.

I really would not mind if Councillors got credit where due but they should not be disaqualified if they have used topics for votes and do nothing or little about the problem when it comes down to it.

What is more, Councillors try to block others from being involved as they want to keep their personal focus and ambition and they do not want anyone jumping in and spoiling that, even if they would be a power of good for residents by being involved.

Maybe we need a forum on here where each Councillor/Candidate is named and famed or named and shamed throughout the year, not just during elections.  This could stop further abuse of emotive topics where residents need and want action.  I really do think we should be putting an end to it.
Title: Re: Leaflet evaluations
Post by: MkI on April 19, 2012, 03: PM
I've had one leaflet up to now, a Conservative one delivered last weekend by a little fella who looked a little bit too old to be wearing the kind of jogging / casual stuff that he was wearing.  He looked a bit like that bloke who's always in the paper wearing smart suits but judging by what he was wearing at the weekend it can't have been the same guy.

I can't really evaluate it as I haven't actually read it, although I do know that the incumbent councillor who it was for is a darn site more useful than most of the other councillors in the town.