Labour Prospects

Started by Steely Dan, December 06, 2016, 08: AM

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Inspector Knacker

I don't have any political preferences, I'm one of those who vote for the party who offer me the best deal.
I've voted for nearly all of them over the years.
I don't mind a Labour council.
I just don't consider this lot a Labour council.
Labour would need to come in and fumigate the place before I'd even consider voting for them.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Steely Dan

You're right. This lot are a disgrace to the Labour Party. And I'm a long time member.

Inspector Knacker

They say some politicians have no real political convictions, they see which party offers the best prospects and stick to it like a parasite.
If some politicians had to stand without the party banner to hide behind, they'd be lucky to come second if they stood unopposed.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

akarjl

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Quote from: pensionater on December 06, 2016, 04: PM
I'm in agreement with Steely Dan,unless it's going to go Independent,i would rather keep Labour than have UKIP.The Unions usually have a big say in the MP nomination,it will be interesting to see if anyone starts to come onto the scene in the next year or so.

Unfortunately the unions seem to retain a bully boy 1970's mentality. Remember the "winter of discontent" 1979? The current labour party, after Ed " I duuureyed maaa bethsts" Milliband " is "lead" by a political activist, a student, who has never grown up- reminds me of Citizen Smith - power to the people. The conservatives are lead by a woman who acts like she is about to have a nervous break down and the rest, well what can you say?

On a local basis, they all seem to be thick as thieves and in for whatever they can get, the problem is they do not reflect the views of the people and couldn't manage a hole in their ar**.

Looking at the alternatives I think the only way of having somebody upsetting Cwistoper and his orangutang is to consider the independents. Maybe some of them will have the balls to speak up at the Kremlin. If nothing else it results in Cwisopher sweating profusely and snuggling in close to Crannible while they have a "vision" together.

Only my opinion of course, as someone who is embarrassed by the muppetry at the Kremlin and the view of Hartlepool that is being projected at the moment.

Inspector Knacker

I believe tat at a local level party politics should be banned.
ALL  candidates should be independents and resident in the ward they represent.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

fred c

We will end up with Labour candidate parachuted in by Central Office, he/she is highly likely to be Corbynite candidate, that will fit in with the Psuedo Corbyn fans in the Kremlin, what a Corbyn candidate will make of the local shower is open to conjecture.

kevplumb

Quote from: Riddler5 on December 07, 2016, 11: AM
I believe tat at a local level party politics should be banned.
ALL  candidates should be independents and resident in the ward they represent.

totally agree
A councillor is an elected representative of their ward, not their political party!
Councils need communities but communities don't need councils
Party politics have no place in local goverment

akarjl

Quote from: Riddler5 on December 07, 2016, 11: AM
I believe tat at a local level party politics should be banned.
ALL  candidates should be independents and resident in the ward they represent.

Agree 100% - what part of "local council" do these people not understand. I would not vote for anyone who wished to represent a ward and did not live there.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: fred c on December 07, 2016, 12: PM
We will end up with Labour candidate parachuted in by Central Office, he/she is highly likely to be Corbynite candidate, that will fit in with the Psuedo Corbyn fans in the Kremlin, what a Corbyn candidate will make of the local shower is open to conjecture.
[/quoteII imagine the commissars will applaud whoever is leader and would accept a travel iron as candidate if instructed. They  have a very 'flexible' adaptability when it comes to switching to the new leaders line of thought and no doubt complying in true Uriah Heep style.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

akarjl

Again 100% spot on

We did have a Monkey as a mayor- actually we still do it seems.
and Mandy as an MP- the labour party will send anyone in to Hartlepool as a perceived safe seat.

I think nobody should be allowed to run as an MP for an area unless they have lived there for 5 years and can prove it. That would stop labour parachuting some closet socialist, destined for stardom, into Fantasy Island Hartlepool.

God help us if Belcher or his Orangutang convince themselves they could do the job.

pensionater

akarjl,would those rules only apply to Labour candidates or to all?.

akarjl

Quote from: akarjl on December 07, 2016, 02: PM

I think nobody should be allowed to run as an MP for an area unless they have lived there for 5 years and can prove it. That would stop labour parachuting some closet socialist, destined for stardom, into Fantasy Island Hartlepool.


=Should have gone to spec savers?

Labour will bring in some hopeful as they seem to believe Hartlepool is a safe seat.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: pensionater on December 07, 2016, 03: PM
akarjl,would those rules only apply to Labour candidates or to all?.
Well of course it would apply to all candidates.
Even if some nutter wanted to apply it to one party how could they if the candidates were all independents, no party tag would exist.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Steely Dan

Totally disagree with the "shop local" thoughts above.

I'd love to see Hartlepool get a smart, socially aware, hard-working Labour MP and wouldn't be bothered if they came from Mars. There's certainly nobody local with any credentials whatsoever. Unless I'm missing something.

Inspector Knacker

You're missing the point. I was refiering to local councillors.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.