The date for the Seaton By-election has been confirmed as Thursday, 19th October.
Will Labour have a candidate, it would take a very brave person to go knocking on doors ?
Quote from: seaton on September 12, 2017, 03: PM
Will Labour have a candidate, it would take a very brave person to go knocking on doors ?
I fully expect Mr Payne to dust down his rosette
Robbie Payne is partly retired to Spain these days
UKIP splitting the vote with Karen King... that's the word on the jungle drums.
Quote from: DRiddle on September 14, 2017, 08: PM
UKIP splitting the vote with Karen King... that's the word on the jungle drums.
UKIP are a joke. The current leadership contest is dominated by the candidates trying to out-do each other with bong-eyed anti-Islam policies. The front runner is best friends with Tommy Robinson convicted football Hooligan and if she wins we can be sure she will allow him into UKIP and all the EDL thugs with him.
The Party is in National meltdown and is of no consequence any more-apart from queering the pitch for genuine local issue candidates
Quote from: DRiddle on September 14, 2017, 08: PM
UKIP splitting the vote with Karen King... that's the word on the jungle drums.
Tom Hind will take some replacing........ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... after Tom..... Farage couldn't win Seaton ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: fred c on September 14, 2017, 09: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on September 14, 2017, 08: PM
UKIP splitting the vote with Karen King... that's the word on the jungle drums.
Tom Hind will take some replacing........ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... after Tom..... Farage couldn't win Seaton ;D ;D ;D
Tom who ?
I am usually out around Seaton three times a day and have not bumped into him once.
I can't recall his last surgery it was that long ago.
Has he emigrated?
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on September 15, 2017, 12: AM
Has he emigrated?
Hush your mouth child.
A Brit who goes abroad is an
'ex-pat' and should never be conflated with one of them there swarthy immigrant buggers.
UKIP in Hartlepool have made themselves an irrelevance..
They've won seats, looked at each other in a confused and baffled way and collectively thought 'what we do now?'. And there's the problem. Like a chav lottery winner without a driving licence or insurance they've got a top of the range Audi and haven't a clue what to do with it. They'll look at each other asking who's going to drive it and the the penny drops that none of them have a clue. So they sit on the driveway of politics watching the world go by and pretending they can drive, but the car remains static.
Meanwhile, the get along gang are out flying around in their uninsured cut and shut and they are still haven't been pulled over despite their driving record.
I gather that the UKIP selection meeting ended up in the usual bun fight. They don't seem to have resolved their internal problems with the eventual candidate being selected by a select few. I was given the name but I'm afraid it passed through my head without registering - a follicley challenged individual - I remember that bit.
Quote from: steveL on September 15, 2017, 07: PM
I gather that the UKIP selection meeting ended up in the usual bun fight. They don't seem to have resolved their internal problems with the eventual candidate being selected by a select few. I was given the name but I'm afraid it passed through my head without registering - a follicley challenged individual - I remember that bit.
Alf Garnet ?
The best way to get into the mindset of the UKIP cnuts is to read the comments on Guido Fawkes
https://order-order.com/2017/09/15/police-parsons-green-incident-terror-related/#disqus_thread
The UKIP crowd are simply stark raving mad.
I'm hearing we're heading towards double figures in terms of the number of candidates. Lord Buckethead and Mr Fishfinger aren't confirmed yet, but the Lib Dems are making their local comeback, UKIP are hoping people in Seaton have forgotten how bizarre Tom Hind has been over the last 3 years, PHF have a good local candidate and the Tories are reportedly putting up Mike Hill.
Obviously Wells will be pleased about that, as it probably means 150 masochists will stop self-flagellation long enough to nip out and vote Tory. Then there's at least one Indy, possibly a Green and whoever wants to prostrate themself at the alter of Akers-Belcher.
Sad times.
Mike Hill or Mike Young ?
I know, it is hard to tell the difference between City and United colours.
Mike Young, but given the symbiotic relationship between Labour and Tories in Hartlepool, I can understand the slip.
Quote from: steveL on September 15, 2017, 09: PM
Mike Young, but given the symbiotic relationship between Labour and Tories in Hartlepool, I can understand the slip.
;)
If the Tories are putting a candidate up there's no need for Labour to bother. To all intents and purposes they're a Labour Party subsidiary. They should be renamed The Bagpuss Party, smug, inert, amenable and busy doing nothing.
Quote from: steveL on September 15, 2017, 07: PM
I gather that the UKIP selection meeting ended up in the usual bun fight. They don't seem to have resolved their internal problems with the eventual candidate being selected by a select few. I was given the name but I'm afraid it passed through my head without registering - a follicley challenged individual - I remember that bit.
Dunno where the bald bloke story came from but their candidate is
Karen King - who
isn't bald, and
isn't even a bloke.. . . but then again, does it really matter?
Apologies to Mike Young for my slip. No offence intended. I think Mike Hill has been on my mind since he used his opening Mail article as an elected member of her majesties parliament to have a veiled pop at a bloke who runs one of the best local charities in the town.
Then he used his second to have a dig at this website and its contributors. That's the same website who battled to help expose fraud and corruption by a member of the local Labour Party who ended up in prison as a result.
I'd have thought he had much more important things to get on with given the state of things within the council and the town as a result of it. Maybe focussing his efforts on regeneration and attracting jobs would be a good idea.
Although i suppose we have Cranney to sort that out. God help us.
I think it's very clear that having been told just how toxic the local Labour group was Mike Hill has decided to stay well clear - just like Wrighty constantly did. Fell at the first fence.
We'll see how things pan out when Labour implodes after they start de-selecting sitting MPs
Mike Hill will merge into the political wallpaper. From what I can see, he's the loyal apparatchik par excellence and will no doubt reach a mutually beneficial arrangement of working with and supporting his fellow party members.
Very disappointing, the circus continues to perform.
Apologies if I am being impatient but do we know who is standing yet ?
(Not having a clue when the closing date is)
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on September 20, 2017, 08: PM
Apologies if I am being impatient but do we know who is standing yet ?
(Not having a clue when the closing date is)
Closing date is this Friday - September 22nd. So far three have declared an interest in standing - Leisa Smith (PHF), Karen King (UKIP) and Mike Young (Conservative). The Labour candidate could be Ann Marshall but this is yet to be confirmed.
Thanks.
I am surprised not to see Sue Little listed
https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/info/20033/elections_and_voting/699/casual_vacancy_in_the_office_of_councillor_-_seaton_ward/4
2 'Corbyn' stories today
https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1673643232655520
https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1673827995970377
and it is the usual bun-fight between demented Tory and Labour shills.
The biggest smile I got was when a Labour cipher complained about a Tory post using a bogus ID. The overwhelming number of IDs with no history from before the last GE are Labour and if you bother to check through the Cobynista posts you can see a lot are not even from the NE never mind Hartlepool.
Given the most rabid and vocal Tory & Labour supporters have a long history of multiple fake IDs on this Forum what did we expect
Quote from: mk1 on September 22, 2017, 06: PM
https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1673643232655520
Some if the comments on the article about the food bank make me despair of the human race. Whatever happened to the concepts of kindness and tolerance?
I don't believe anyone noticed but there is a 'Sovereign Citizen/ Legal Name Fraud' believer very active in the Mail thread, See if you can spot him.
https://hptimbral.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/index.php/topic,3159.msg32442.html#msg32442
Not directly related but (I think) too funny not to post.
click to view the video. It is less than 30 seconds.
https://order-order.com/2017/09/19/owen-goes-full-brent/
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on September 22, 2017, 07: PM
Some if the comments on the article about the food bank make me despair of the human race. Whatever happened to the concepts of kindness and tolerance?
Then don't read this article or your head will implode
https://www.facebook.com/hartlepoolmailnews/posts/1673931769293333
Gobshyte Kippers/EDL/BF idiots abound. You have to click on the 'replies' under individual posts to see how sick some people are. At least we know where the UKIP crowd went when they left here.
Official List:
Candidates are as follows-
Karen King: UKIP
Sue Little: Ind
Ann Marshall: Labour
Leisa Smith: PHF
Mike Young: Conservative
Is this candidate seriously delusional? She's promising to sort out the Longscar Hall issue, again, FFS
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/?hc_ref=ARRBmdxBolOnoB_kdD8C40ckIDH8sJgCgfwsfhMf3gfLy3koPG1MyEVj430lU5E28IE
Quote from: Lord Elpus on September 25, 2017, 05: AM
Is this candidate seriously delusional? She's promising to sort out the Longscar Hall issue, again, FFS
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/?hc_ref=ARRBmdxBolOnoB_kdD8C40ckIDH8sJgCgfwsfhMf3gfLy3koPG1MyEVj430lU5E28IE
Standard Labour tactics - promise on something you can't deliver on - get elected - backtrack
The Longscar saga looks like the only piece of passing political wreckage she can swim towards and she's going for it.
Considering Labour built, closed and sold the Longscar it is too late for them to save face.
The last time she stood in Fens and Rossmere she struggled to get her leaflets out, she obviousy had some chaffing issues and was walking very slowly.
I think she'll be luck to come third.
Quote from: Lord Elpus on September 25, 2017, 07: AM
The last time she stood in Fens and Rossmere she struggled to get her leaflets out, she obviousy had some chaffing issues and was walking very slowly.
I think she'll be luck to come third.
How many time has she actually stood for council and in how many wards ?.......... from various comments I have read on several social media sites, LE is probably right, Seatonians are fully up to speed on the half a***d decisions imposed on the village by the labtor coalition.........maybe Mrs Marshall is the obligatory LabMob candidate...aka.... sacrificial lamb.
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/barclay%20hunter%20simmons.JPG)
Ann Marshall is up against it with these sort of endorsements.
Barclay the Inebriate Man recently posted on his own Facebook page that he knew of a councillor who had taken 'brown envelopes' to pay for holidays.
Hunter went around telling everyone that he didn't agree with the 31% pay increase and was going to vote against it only for him to bottle it when it came to actual the vote.
Simmons famously declared that 'it would be a poor organisation that couldn't make money out of the Summerhill Cafe' - the council was then forced to close it a year later after it had lost nearly £6,000 and after spending £16,000 installing a log fire in a building primarily used in the Summer. In total £22,000 down the tube in the blink of an eye as a result of a decision that was made against officer advice and just after the council was forced to admit that the Inspiration Cafe lost £357,000 before they finally closed it.
Inevitable Conclusion: Simmons now presumably thinks this council, under Labour, is 'a poor organisation'
All Ann Marshall needs now is for Christopher to turn up to help deliver leaflets in his brand new White BMW Sports Car that he bought with the 31% pay increase that he voted himself and she'll be sunk without trace.
I noticed J Cambell had posted on SCN facebook page, he was advocating users of that page should look at TOHP & HP....... I haven't bothered my a**e looking at them tbh.......
But H Blackwood mentions to J Cambell......... you know one of my pet hates is lies and liars. Just tell the truth. Simple.
I'm not an admin either but the 'no blocking' rule makes absolute sense. How can you debate anything if you can't see all the contributions.
As I said above if you gave weak arguments it's not the place to be. Like turning up with a pea shooter when your opponents have AK47s.
There are some incredibly knowledgeable people post on there which is why some people find it intimidating
An pathetic exercise in mutual back slapping. It would come as a severe shock if they said any thing else.
The usual guff for consumption by the gullible and party droids.
JC and HB just hate PHF for some reason, possibly jealousy.
Considering they consider Cleveland Police so unfit for purpose, how can they think Hartlepool Labour group is fit ?
I see that their main line of attack against PHF is that both Riddle and Black work for a living, like the majority of other people in Hartlepool of working age. The cosy arrangement of holding meetings during the day done to suit 30-year lead-swingers like Richardson, Cranney and the rest of the unemployed and unemployable, is at long last slowly being exposed.
Was talking to someone from Healthwatch recently who told me that Cwistopher is hardly ever there and comes and goes as he pleases. Even when he is there he spends his time on the phone being 'Leader' which he obviously finds far more interesting than Healthwatch matters. According to the bloke I was talking to, the rest of the crew at Healthwatch are totally pis*ed off with 'Spikey'
Someone remind me. Just how did a benefits clerk, who by all accounts spent more time on the sick than off it, come to be Manager of Healthwatch?
Looks like he's continuing in the same vein as before. Was it 8 months he spent on the sick from Healthwatch, too ill to sit at a desk performing his duties at Healthwatch but at the same time well enough to sit at his desk in the Civic being Leader. That's not forgetting the holiday with Lying Ste in Mexico that he took while he was on the sick.
Any resemblance to the rules of normal employment everyone else works under must be purely coincidental. ;D
He only works part-time for which he picks up around £700-£800 per month, or at least that was the situation when it was based at HVDA - it may have changed since it moved to Wynyard Road under the new contract. I was told that officially, HealthWatch allows him the equivalent of one part-day a week to do his council stuff. From what you say, that seems to have gone well out of the window. :o
It really is time for the Board of Healthwatch to get a grip on this but I have a feeling that if asked any awkward questions, they would all deny ever being on the board.
Quote from: steveL on September 25, 2017, 09: AM
Barclay the Inebriate Man recently posted on his own Facebook page that he knew of a councillor who had taken 'brown envelopes' to pay for holidays.
We all do.
Trouble is Barclay being a sot and more or less permanently befuddled by drink named the wrong councillor(s). It is the SCABs with the fondness for exotic travel.
Quote from: mk1 on September 25, 2017, 03: PM
Quote from: steveL on September 25, 2017, 09: AM
Barclay the Inebriate Man recently posted on his own Facebook page that he knew of a councillor who had taken 'brown envelopes' to pay for holidays.
We all do.
Trouble is Barclay being a sot and more or less permanently befuddled by drink named the wrong councillor(s). It is the SCABs with the fondness for exotic travel.
I think 2018 could be a Mayoral year to remember........ if Ms Alexander has been concerned about her Council suffering embarrassing incidents so far........ she ain't seen nothing yet.
He didn't name any councillor when challenged to explain himself. Instead, he described it as a 'throwaway' remark and so escaped any form of disciplinary action. HBC is now organising a 'social media training course' for all councillors which, at a guess, will start by removing all bottles from the room.
It's a good example of how such things work at HBC. Saying that he knew of a councillor taking 'brown envelopes' is a very serious thing to say. He should have been forced into either naming the councillor or into making a public statement that he had fabricated the whole thing - his initial claim had been made on Facebook. He admitted to Devlin that he had 'made it up' but there was no action taken against him.
Just to dilute it down a bit more, they dragged Riddle into it after he had commented how Hartlepool Council was moving towards the characteristics of a 'one-party state' (who could deny that it is) and then included Thompson and Black for 'sniggering' during a council meeting. After Cranney was made Hartlepool's 'representative for culture' on the Tees Valley Authority it's never been that easy to keep a straight face at council meetings.
The so-called 'Code of Conduct' is there to keep opposition councillors in check. It does not apply to the Lab-Con coalition. So even in an extreme case like Cranney making his 'have I slept with you' remark which was bad enough to make the national papers, no action was taken. In that case, another course for all councillors was organised, that time on 'Diversity'.
It shows Devlin, as Monitoring Officer, to be a disgrace to his profession and Hartlepool's highest-paid eunoch.
Or maybe it's because so little is expected of our ruling elite? You have to censure educated members, but the others, bless em, probably couldn't comprehend why they were being censured and a pointless exercise in the same way you can't discipline a radiator.
Quote from: Riddler5 on September 25, 2017, 11: PM
you can't discipline a radiator.
Nor can you educate a dipsomaniac with involuntary micturation issues.
Ann Marshall, seems to be on something.
Latest FB posting;
'As a Labour candidate selected by residents of the ward, I promise to represent the residents and campaign on their behalf against the parking charges at Seaton Carew.
I have requested a consultation on the matter with the chair of the Community Services Committee where I will speak out in favour of what residents of my ward want.
I will always put the needs of residents first'.
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/?hc_ref=ARTEOKK4ZP59wcAGC4T9DbTKxBxTVHs_5Vyg2HwSqmZuDdjWi1wLtXuFzp2xpNZNc_I
Quote from: Lord Elpus on September 26, 2017, 04: AM
Ann Marshall, seems to be on something.
Latest FB posting;
'As a Labour candidate selected by residents of the ward, I promise to represent the residents and campaign on their behalf against the parking charges at Seaton Carew.
I have requested a consultation on the matter with the chair of the Community Services Committee where I will speak out in favour of what residents of my ward want.
After purchasing signage, yellow lines, meters and installing them at a cost of over £80k I doubt very much is going too change.
As matter of interest will the Parking Charges be enforced over the winter ?
I will always put the needs of residents first'.
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/?hc_ref=ARTEOKK4ZP59wcAGC4T9DbTKxBxTVHs_5Vyg2HwSqmZuDdjWi1wLtXuFzp2xpNZNc_I
Now now, Labour councillors past and present always tell the truth (the whole truth, and nothing but the truth) .
They send in a 'volunteer' to test the minefield. The 'volunteer' spouts guff in the hope that some of the electorate are so dim they can't see the apparent contradiction. Saying what they think the voters want to here without refering to cause and effect.
If she ever succeeded in getting elected, the people of Seaton would deserve everything they get.
If there's one ward in the town that has sussed the LabMob it's Seaton Carew......the SCN facebook page leads the way by keeping residents informed on what's happenings in the village, if only every other ward had a similar balanced and informative social media outlet.
Anyone seen this?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/ann%20marshall%20independent.JPG)
Labour trying to win votes for Ann Marshall by distancing her from Calamity Chris and his mates and claiming independence from the labour group.
so even they recognise the toxicity. I seem to remember that all those who dissented were forced out of the group.
Quote from: craig finton on September 26, 2017, 10: AM
Anyone seen this?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/ann%20marshall%20independent.JPG)
Labour trying to win votes for Ann Marshall by distancing her from Calamity Chris and his mates and claiming independence from the labour group.
As long as the party operates with the whip process, which it says it does on its Facebook page then the statement is meaningless.
A vote for Ann is a vote for the mob.
'Independence' from the Labour group, there's probably more 'independence' in a Pyongyang council meeting.
Quote from: craig finton on September 26, 2017, 10: AM
Anyone seen this?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/ann%20marshall%20independent.JPG)
Labour trying to win votes for Ann Marshall by distancing her from Calamity Chris and his mates and claiming independence from the labour group.
Following the example of the towns 'Member' perhaps :)
If anyone in Seaton receives one of Sue Little's famous 'sorry I missed you' postcards, I wouldn't take it too seriously. Yesterday it transpired that it was her hubby who was out delivering the cards straight through the letterbox.
Several people have e-mailed The Post to say that they're sorry they missed you too, Sue .
Quote from: fred c on September 26, 2017, 01: PM
Quote from: craig finton on September 26, 2017, 10: AM
Anyone seen this?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/ann%20marshall%20independent.JPG)
Labour trying to win votes for Ann Marshall by distancing her from Calamity Chris and his mates and claiming independence from the labour group.
Following the example of the towns 'Member' perhaps :)
Actually, I think I can add a bit to that. The '
some of which had previously supported PHF' is a reference to Graeme Measor who stood as a PHF candidate in Seaton way-back and who went on to support UKIP's Darren Price last time around in Foggy Furze.
At the moment, he's a fan of
Jeremy Corbyn but if he runs true to form, it's possible that his application to join the Conservative Party is already in the post.
Ann Marshall is Marjorie's best mate and has been for many years. They were like Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee when Ann was last a councillor (for Rossmere, I think). The only real difference is that Ann never said a word in the council chamber while Marj wouldn't shut up.
Ann is now claiming on Facebook that she will fight against the Parking Charges that her best pal, Marjorie introduced.
Ann was also 'best friends' with another Labour Hero..............
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/XTpdFv.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poXTpdFvj)
I idea that Ann Marshall would stand up to Labour group leaders is a joke.
She has always been a yes woman happy to ride on others coat tails. As has already been mentioned she was Mad Dogs 'hand rag' for years and employed by either OFCA or Manor Res (or both).
She always knew what side her bread was buttered and in my opinion only ever looked after number one.
Her lowest moment must have been encouraging her hubby John Marshall to stand on the Headland, trading on the reputaion of the original John Marshall.
She never struck me as being too bright either
Quote from: Lord Elpus on September 26, 2017, 04: PM
Her lowest moment must have been encouraging her hubby John Marshall to stand on the Headland, trading on the reputaion of the original John Marshall.
She never struck me as being too bright either
This is the incident where Labour ran a Councillor with the same name as an Independent and deliberately did not send a photo of the Labour candidate to confuse the voters.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/a-councillor-by-any-other-name-1-1002351
Note Brash is 100% behind the scam but this was before he left Labour and became 'our' bastard so I suppose he is forgiven.
I see CAB was out helping Ann Marshall in Seaton Carew yesterday, that's her well and truley stuffed then
Quote from: mk1 on September 26, 2017, 02: PM
Ann was also 'best friends' with another Labour Hero..............
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/XTpdFv.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poXTpdFvj)
that's a scene from Macbeth ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: kevplumb on October 04, 2017, 08: AM
Quote from: mk1 on September 26, 2017, 02: PM
Ann was also 'best friends' with another Labour Hero..............
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/XTpdFv.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poXTpdFvj)
that's a scene from Macbeth ;D ;D ;D
Or McDonald's....?
The newly formed Seaton Labour Branch is made up largely of post-puberty Corbynites of the 'Power By Any Means' variety and while its just possible to forgive their naivety, it's not possible to forgive their ignorance. These are the people that Ann Marshall refers to when she says that she was selected by 'Seaton Residents.'
Such is their level of ignorance, that according to one of their more indiscreet members, they had selected Ann Marshall as their candidate completely unaware that she had previously been a Labour Councillor for Rossmere; somehow, Ann Herself failed to mention it during her interview. It was only when Ann started putting her campaign material together, complete with its wild claims of her achievements in Rossmere, that they finally realised who they had selected.
As if recognising the toxicity of the Akers-Belcher brand, they had wanted someone who had the same low opinion of the Akers-Belcher's as themselves which you must admit, is a very strange approach. Somehow Ann convinced them that she was fully on-board with that despite the fact that as a Rossmere Councillor for 8 years, she had never gone against the Party Leader or Party Whip once.
All of which makes her public stance against the parking charges laughable. 'Campaigning against the parking charges' as she has pledged to do would mean going against her best pal, Marjorie James AND the party whip. This would mean certain disciplinary action and running the risk of being thrown out of the group.
The chance of Ann Marshall risking that and, at the same time, a useful £7,000 supplement to her income is precisely zero.
There is additional irony here for the other candidate that they interviewed was none other than Codhead-in-Chief, Jim Ainslie who at least could claim genuine hatred for the Akers-Belchers especially after they deliberately wrecked his chances of re-election in Headland and Harbour.
I can believe all of that Steve. It was always my concern that the people who have recently tried to 'take down Labour from within' via the selection process etc. were being very naive.
They've obviously failed to realise they'll simply be presented with 'turd (a)' or 'turd (b)', with the occasional option of 'turd (c)'.
Is her 'campaigning against the parking charges' just one of those cynical lines they keep banging out in the belated hope some half wits haven't realised it was her chums who brought the charges in in the first place and vote for her?
The is more chance of penguin organising an orgy in the council chamber than of any of the docile worker ants making a stand against the leaders of the pack.
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/new-art-set-to-make-waves-on-seafront-1-8788308 (http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/new-art-set-to-make-waves-on-seafront-1-8788308)
Look how the Lab-Cons are further shafting Seaton residents by allowing big fairground rides to operate until 8pm every day.
They then have the audacity after knocking down all the community facilities and selling the land for a song to build houses to say there is little for teeenagers to do.
If that isn't the definition of spite I don't know what is.
This is a new one from Ann Marshall who claims something called 'special dispensation' gets her passed the Akers_Belchers, Marjorie and the Party Whip. I wonder why Ged Hall, Jonathan Brash and Pam Hargreaves hadn't heard of this before they were hounded out of the Labour Group?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/special%20dispensation.JPG)
Quote from: steveL on October 05, 2017, 03: PM
This is a new one from Ann Marshall who claims something called 'special dispensation' gets her passed the Akers_Belchers, Marjorie and the Party Whip. I wonder why Ged Hall, Jonathan Brash and Pam Hargreaves hadn't heard of this before they were hounded out of the Labour Group?
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/special%20dispensation.JPG)
I noticed that comment half an hour ago, but I was interrupted before I could post it here.............really, just how dull can this woman be, of course there can be special dispensation they have a massive coalition majority, so a 'Special Dispensation' is merely another Rifty Fun Day or Manor Waste Collection election ploy.
Would there be a special dispensation if a change in the constitution or an increase in council tax was the motion before council.......... absolutely no way, she would jump on the shovel when CAB shouts s**t like the rest of them.
How long was she a councillor and how many times did she vote against the Labour 'Whip'.......... as a matter of interest, was she per-chance a councillor during the period of the Manor Residents scandal ? I can't remember any labour councillor offering condemnation of any sort about that, rather the opposite, they were all incapable of seeing the wood for the trees.
She's talking out of her bottom, when Akers says aye, they all say aye whether they like it or not.
well that's what she'telling everyone in Seaton.
Was it 'dispensation' or 'delusion' ?
aahh a vision by any other name etc ;)
Mrs Marshalls FB Page raises some questions..... anyone who disagrees is immediately castigated by the Momentumites of the newly formed, 'We are going to take over Hartlepool Labour group'..............good look to them on that
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/videos/vb.1789066944440125/1795113920502094/?type=2&theater&comment_id=1805872332759586&reply_comment_id=1805968902749929¬if_t=video_reply¬if_id=1507231261042081
My God, did this woman really type this?
"Ann Marshall For Seaton This sounds sensationalist Fred. Your understanding of structure and rules within the Labour Party is lacking. Councillors can vote freely on matters and don't necessarily face any repercussions for going against the whip. I've stated in plain English that I will always speak out on behalf of the people of my ward. Thanks."
I had a little look on her page, asked her how many times she defied the Labour whip in her previous 8 years as a councillor and received no answer. Then i posted this video and was banned from the page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vva_LiTpquw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vva_LiTpquw)
Interesting also that for having the nerve to ask the question someone chirped up how i only attended 7 full council meetings last year. That's true. There were 8 full council meetings last year and i attended 7, in the 8th i was at an evening parents evening at work.
Also, it's seems PHF etc are now being dubbed 'protest councillors' by Ann and the Labour lot. They're pointing out how protest political groups are ineffective and never achieve anything.
Obviously they're very unware of the history of ...... The Labour Party.
I just went to have a go commenting on Ann's page and can't
and I am an 'Unknown ' so it must have been locked down.
Dismayed to see a picture of Ann and the MP that won't keep them in check
but happy to campaign with them.
obviously I'm not allowed to comment either
i can ;D
but not for much longer methinks ;)
Quote from: steveL on October 06, 2017, 12: AM
My God, did this woman really type this?
"Ann Marshall For Seaton This sounds sensationalist Fred. Your understanding of structure and rules within the Labour Party is lacking. Councillors can vote freely on matters and don't necessarily face any repercussions for going against the whip. I've stated in plain English that I will always speak out on behalf of the people of my ward. Thanks."
why would any normal person have a working knowledge of the 'structures and rules within the Labour Party' ? That's for the geeks and political obsessives.
As for the councillors speaking out freely, ' and don't face any repercussions for going against the whip', how about voting against the whip?
Now she's talking about 'the people of my ward' she hasn't even been elected yet. Deluded.
I gather toxic Stephen was out 'campaigning' with Ann Marshall in Seaton yesterday. The other candidates will no doubt be delighted to hear it ::)
Quote from: steveL on October 07, 2017, 10: AM
I gather toxic Stephen was out 'campaigning' with Ann Marshall in Seaton yesterday. The other candidates will no doubt be delighted to hear it ::)
wonder who was minding the shop ?? ::)
Quote from: steveL on October 07, 2017, 10: AM
I gather toxic Stephen was out 'campaigning' with Ann Marshall in Seaton yesterday. The other candidates will no doubt be delighted to hear it ::)
I wonder if they'll have the bottle to get her best mate Marjorie to help - maybe Angela can give a hand ;D
Quote from: kevplumb on October 07, 2017, 11: AM
Quote from: steveL on October 07, 2017, 10: AM
I gather toxic Stephen was out 'campaigning' with Ann Marshall in Seaton yesterday. The other candidates will no doubt be delighted to hear it ::)
wonder who was minding the shop ?? ::)
Might be bored with it by now.
I noticed on twitter that Mike hill has also given his backing to Ann marshal
Certainly a big effort campaigning for a seat they should get nowhere near winning
mike hill is another wrighty jump on any bandwagon as long as it gets his mug in the paper
all mouth and trousers >:(
Hill
SAB
Loadsa Money Lindridge
Clarke
Have all been seen canvassing in Seaton............ I wonder if Ste is aware that he might be canvassing with people who could well be planning a coup against the SCABCabal ?
Quote from: fred c on October 07, 2017, 09: PM
Hill
SAB
Loadsa Money Lindridge
Clarke
Have all been seen canvassing in Seaton............ I wonder if Ste is aware that he might be canvassing with people who could well be planning a coup against the SCABCabal ?
would love to see it come off fred
exept what would we get replacing them ??
at least we know the present incumberents are as twisted as corkscrews
Quote from: fred c on October 07, 2017, 09: PM
Hill
SAB
Loadsa Money Lindridge
Clarke
Have all been seen canvassing in Seaton............ I wonder if Ste is aware that he might be canvassing with people who could well be planning a coup against the SCABCabal ?
They all want scattering. Anyone who served under them especially, why replace dross with dross's minions?
As for Eli the MP, is he the most anonymous one ever? I once saw a spoof advert for a place called 'Beige World' which sold comfy clothes and had parking for 25,000 'Mortis' Marinas. I imagine he'd make a perfect customer services manager.
Haven't the Labour and Conservatives already voted in favour of the turbines once?
Yes they voted it through but Whitehall knocked it back because there had been insufficient consultation. Since then they have amended the new local plan to allow wind turbines on the sites.
Ann Marshall has been boasting about being able to get council cleaning teams to respond instantly to her complaints. 3 examples are shown where she claims a 30 min. 60 min and 24 hour response time after she 'complained'.
I think the other candidates should copy her actions. I think it would be best if they see something that needs fixing and they phone the council and report it. Log the time and possibly record the call and confirm it by Email. Then see how long it takes the Council to respond to those complaints. We can log them here and compare them to the times achieved by Ann. If they ignore the report or take far longer to respond surely that is a breach of some election rule? Ann is not a Councillor and is just a 'member of the public'.
It shows how desperate they are to win this seat.
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You can report fly-tipping using the following link:
https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/forms/form/190/report_fly_tipping
You'll get an email in a couple of days confirming that your report has been logged and two or three days after that the item(s) will be cleared. Average response time is therefore around 5 or 6 days
You have to be very specific though. If you report a dumped sofa then they will eventually remove. However, if the sofa is surrounded by other general rubbish that you didn't mention then they will leave that where it is.
I think we all know what's going on with Marshall.
The last time that she stood in Seaton, both her and Marj refused to congratulate or shake the hand of the winning candidate.
I think her arrogance came over very strongly in the video.
Looking at the video she certainly came across as a 'Full Sack'.......... I got the, I'm entitled to be a councillor impression, mainly from when I heard her speak, she sounded like Cranney.
I wonder if a Victoria ward Labour Party will be formed to select a 'Labour Party' candidate in the up coming by-election caused by resignation of Trish Lawton......who is likely to be the candidate, will it be another dynamic 'Change Labour' from the inside fantasist ::)
Quote from: mk1 on October 12, 2017, 02: PM
Ann Marshall has been boasting about being able to get council cleaning teams to respond instantly to her complaints. 3 examples are shown where she claims a 30 min. 60 min and 24 hour response time after she 'complained'.
I think the other candidates should copy her actions. I think it would be best if they see something that needs fixing and they phone the council and report it. Log the time and possibly record the call and confirm it by Email. Then see how long it takes the Council to respond to those complaints. We can log them here and compare them to the times achieved by Ann. If they ignore the report or take far longer to respond surely that is a breach of some election rule? Ann is not a Councillor and is just a 'member of the public'.
It shows how desperate they are to win this seat.
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Labour did the same in the last Headland & Harbour by-election. Any issue a certain Leader found whilst scouring the Burbank Community FB page would be immediately reported to the Assistant Director of Neighbourhood Services and actioned upon faster than I have ever had any reported incident acted upon. This would then be reported back to the FB group and attributed to the Labour candidate (and now councillor) Mike 'Tooting' McLaughlin.
The Labour mob have just been down my street, looked like the group that job club had given up on.
Last time I sent the drunken sail... err soldier away with a flea in his ear.
I didn't bother this time as I am not wanting an ASBO.
(Last time he was preaching how they were fighting for the hospital.)
Socialism is trendy at the moment, so why are these lot not being replaced by trendy educated employed socialists ?
A perfect demonstration of the collusion between the administration and Labour
Quote from: marky on October 12, 2017, 09: PM
A perfect demonstration of the collusion between the administration and Labour
That fact is absolutely unequivocal........ look no further than Carpetgate, a prime example of corporate a**e covering.
Quote from: SRMoore on October 12, 2017, 06: PM
Quote from: mk1 on October 12, 2017, 02: PM
Ann Marshall has been boasting about being able to get council cleaning teams to respond instantly to her complaints. 3 examples are shown where she claims a 30 min. 60 min and 24 hour response time after she 'complained'.
I think the other candidates should copy her actions. I think it would be best if they see something that needs fixing and they phone the council and report it. Log the time and possibly record the call and confirm it by Email. Then see how long it takes the Council to respond to those complaints. We can log them here and compare them to the times achieved by Ann. If they ignore the report or take far longer to respond surely that is a breach of some election rule? Ann is not a Councillor and is just a 'member of the public'.
It shows how desperate they are to win this seat.
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Labour did the same in the last Headland & Harbour by-election. Any issue a certain Leader found whilst scouring the Burbank Community FB page would be immediately reported to the Assistant Director of Neighbourhood Services and actioned upon faster than I have ever had any reported incident acted upon. This would then be reported back to the FB group and attributed to the Labour candidate (and now councillor) Mike 'Tooting' McLaughlin.
Shane........ Would it be worth you contacting James Black and D Riddle to make a joint approach by PHF and UKIP to register a complaint with both Peter Devlin as monitoring officer and Ms Alexander as the CEO of the council, somewhere along the line there has been an abuse of the councils normal refuse / fly tipping protocols (unheard of reaction times) in favour of the labour candidate (use of social media) over the other four candidates.
I really don't expect it to make a difference in the outcome of the election, but as mentioned in your post re Headland & Harbour. No standing councillor should be interfering in the election process by directly contacting a council officer to interject and resolve a problem in a ward where an election campaign is taking place.
The candidate of the ruling party therefore gains by association, the apparent powers of an elected candidate to influence council actions.
Till elected, they should have no more influence than any other member of the public highlighting a problem.
Report it to the chief exec etc. ?
Might as well report Oliver Twist stealing your pocket watch to Fagin.
Maybe Private Eye would appreciate the story ?
Stig........... Of course I know it would be a case of p***ing into the wind getting onto the Chief Exec but by making an official complaint, when it happens again as it surely will, making a formal complaint to the communities Minister will carry more weight.
I think everyone who takes an interest in the local 'political situation' recognises just how important the advice of the Peer Review Group to recruit from outside the existing management when appointing a new CEO was........... having said that of course, can someone remind me who was the chair of the selection panel........ DOHHHHH
Quote from: fred c on October 13, 2017, 04: PM
having said that of course, can someone remind me who was the chair of the selection panel........
It can not have been SAB. He was 'ill'. So 'ill' he could not get to his sacking Tribunal at Newcastle.
Wonder what he was ill with?
Strange to see the SCABs and crew being defended by people who make no secret of their aim to infiltrate local Labour and get rid of them.
It can not be any clearer than this:
https://hptimbral.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/index.php/topic,3917.msg40472.html#msg40472
We are all agreed that the Akers Belcher cabal is a disgrace to the town. As a Labour Party member, their actions appall me more than most. I wish I had a quick fix.
I presume everyone knows who SD was?
A post from the same thread by..... Riqueti
"Woo One UK and Samsung spring to mind. Big fat grant from the council to expand the site at Sovereign Business Park and create jobs ... as soon as the money arrived POOF! It went up in flames"
I presume we all know who Riqueti was.........slippery as a sh**house rat........ is a clue.
Are they so far up their own a***'s they actually believe the SCABCabal aren't aware of what they are up to ?
Quote from: fred c on October 13, 2017, 10: PM
A post from the same thread by..... Riqueti
"Woo One UK and Samsung spring to mind. Big fat grant from the council to expand the site at Sovereign Business Park and create jobs ... as soon as the money arrived POOF! It went up in flames"
I presume we all know who Riqueti was.........slippery as a sh**house rat........ is a clue.
Are they so far up their own a***'s they actually believe the SCABCabal aren't aware of what they are up to ?
I think they're so full of their own importance, they don't care.
Though they now spend all their time defending the SCABs and attacking this Forum in reality their view of the SCABs is exactly the same as ours. What they have done is sold out because they believe the good of the (adopted) party comes before all else. They have become two-faced political zealots who will say and do anything to promote Party above all else.
2 more gems:
Let's face it, the Akers-Belchers twins are nothing more than pair of dysfunctional weirdos that you wouldn't trust to get a pint of milk,..................... On a local level you have inarticulate and dreary tosspots like Akers-Belcher who gets his instructions from regional officers. They are fed instructions from head office
They have become that which they claim to despise.
In their own words: 'clueless and manipulative politicians blowing smoke up the collective ar*ses of the electorate'
it's an odd point of view that an organisation that has proved itself incapable of policing itself should be given another chance under a different leadership.
No one owes the local Labour Party in this town a second chance. Nye Bevan would have been disgusted by the likes of the SCABS, Cranney and Barclay and in all likelihood would have floored each and every one of them
As horrific as the SCAB Cabal are, they are outnumbered by others who at any time could rid themselves of the corrupt cancer that has infiltrated them. They have chosen not to do so and are therefore equally guilty.
As for the Seaton Liberation Front, the naive Corbynites who set out to select a candidate who despised the Akers-Belcher brand and instead, through their own ignorance, selected a reincarnated party sheep in Ann Marshall, someone who has never in the past failed to vote as she was told . . . . well so much for changing the Party from within.
They've been brushed aside as irrelevant by the usual suspects; a blend of the unemployed, the unemployable, malingerers and pension supplementors who are now flooding Seaton with their presence to the delight of all opposition candidates.
Who in their right minds would park his brand new BMW Z Series, complete with personalised CAB number plate, alongside Garston Grove, in order to tell residents that they're better off under the local Labour shower? . . . Well CAB did today. ::)
Empathy my ar**.
Alan Clark also trumpeted his opposition to the 'corrupt' SCAB Cabal when he posted here
Sample:
https://hptimbral.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/index.php/topic,1034.msg12511.html#msg12511
All the money available for Owton Manor we all now know was mopped up by Manor Residents. And it appears this organisation is as corrupt as they come.
but as soon as he got his foot in the door he became a loyal little apparatchik.
The current delusionist will go down the same path.
Ann Marshal was asked at least half a dozen times by various people....... How many times did you vote against the labour whip ?
She has yet to offer an answer.
Is it not this Party Before Town culture which is turning people off and the fact that it's not even a political thing - it's tribal with the sole motive of self-preservation. It's those useful supplements to benefits and pensions which keeps the sheep quiet with slime-ball Beck as ar** kisser in chief.
Quote from: fred c on October 14, 2017, 12: AM
Ann Marshal was asked at least half a dozen times by various people....... How many times did you vote against the labour whip ?
She has yet to offer an answer.
Well I can answer that for her . . .
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A social club for the work-shy.That's all it is. The women can do their shopping while the men can sit in King John's with both popping in for a meeting here and there to justify their allowance but still be back home in time for Corrie. No wonder they hate the thought of more evening meetings and the interruption to TV time or drinking time.
How many years is it since Carl had a job? 30? What a shirker.
Quote from: marky on October 14, 2017, 12: AM
A social club for the work-shy.That's all it is. The women can do their shopping while the men can sit in King John's with both popping in for a meeting here and there to justify their allowance but still be back home in time for Corrie. No wonder they hate the thought of more evening meetings and the interruption to TV time or drinking time.
How many years is it since Carl had a job? 30? What a shirker.
I'll have you know.......Carl has "Dedicated" his life to public service since he became unemployed. hahahahahahaha.. it's worth mentioning that he has also had a steady source of income from the public purse in those years and years and years and years and years and years and years....... I have to stop now my RSI has kicked in.
All very odd. In my job, which is unintentionally turning into what seems social work, I come across people in their late 50's who in conversation relate to me how they've worked all their lives and find themselves having to jump through hoops, being sent on courses out of town for a week etc. Yet some people appear to steam through unemployed life on a sea of glass, with a cloud free horizon.
Quote from: steveL on October 14, 2017, 12: AM
Is it not this Party Before Town culture which is turning people off and the fact that it's not even a political thing - it's tribal with the sole motive of self-preservation. It's those useful supplements to benefits and pensions which keeps the sheep quiet with slime-ball Beck as ar** kisser in chief.
Party? It's the mindset of The Famous Five group combined with a Billy no mates culture. These are the sort of people who'd be rejected as dull by the Society of Drain Pipe Collectors or Roundabout Photographers. They want the 'security' of the group around them to give them an imagined prestige and a 'look at me' boost to people so dull and and insignificant in real life that this is their only chance of ever being actually noticed.
Politics, especially at this level, consists at the top level of loud, elbowing gobsh*tes leading a pack of bleating/ yapping subservient nodding dogs who get an allowance for being there and obeying orders, a sort of Terracotta Army, except the clay soldiers have more of a voice and personality.
These people are to governance what chocolate is to nuclear reactor insulation, totally inappropriate and kept well way from!
Quote from: fred c on October 14, 2017, 12: AM
Quote from: marky on October 14, 2017, 12: AM
A social club for the work-shy.That's all it is. The women can do their shopping while the men can sit in King John's with both popping in for a meeting here and there to justify their allowance but still be back home in time for Corrie. No wonder they hate the thought of more evening meetings and the interruption to TV time or drinking time.
How many years is it since Carl had a job? 30? What a shirker.
I'll have you know.......Carl has "Dedicated" his life to public service since he became unemployed. hahahahahahaha.. it's worth mentioning that he has also had a steady source of income from the public purse in those years and years and years and years and years and years and years....... I have to stop now my RSI has kicked in.
If I remember rightly, as well as receiving his allowance, Carl is also 'sponsored' by the Shop Workers Union' and has been since the
Olde Curiosity Shop had its launch day.
(http://www.hartlepoolpost.co.uk/images/richardson%20sponsors.JPG)
In Carls case, USDAW stands for Union of Shirkers & Dodgers Against Working.
dunno about seaton but mr Richardson wants to get his lard a** round his own ward ive just got my voters card ;D
https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/videos/p.1815580095122143/1815580095122143/?type=2&theater
I think the young Corbynites are just a little too much up their own arses for their own good. At the end of the day, they selected Ann Marshall, someone who represents everything that is wrong with Hartlepool Labour Group.
Does anybody know when the Victoria Ward By-Election will take place?
Trish Lawton was due for re-election in 2019 and had a 568 majority out of 1264 votes cast. Maybe Ann Marshall can get a shoe in there if she bombs as Seaton - or is there some form of moratorium that would prevent her standing?
It is a real problem for New 'new Labour'. It seems the old 'old Labour' voters no longer see them as having any connection with them. All the studies show that 'class' is no longer and indicator of political affiliation. The C2/Ds are just as likely to vote Tory as Labour. Indeed London not the North is the seat of Labour power.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/14/tories-gain-ground-small-towns
The findings will worry Labour MPs concerned that the party is losing touch with traditional supporters and is too focused on metropolitan issues. It comes as the party is struggling to come up with a position on Brexit that satisfies both its urban and traditional working-class supporters.
Analysis of recent elections also suggested that "the more a place has experienced relative decline, the worse Labour tends to perform in electoral terms (and the better the Conservatives do)". At the last election the swing to Labour was far higher in cities than in either large towns (+5.0) or small towns (+4.1), and even smaller in other areas (+3.0).
Lisa Nandy, the former shadow cabinet minister and Labour MP for Wigan, said her party needed to take on concerns about issues such as immigration to tackle the problem. "There is a long-term problem here that shows it is not only Labour has problems in towns, but increasingly people in towns think there is no one in the political establishment who is speaking for them," she said.
One big problem is that the Ds are far closer to the UKIP/Tory view on Immigration and The EU than to the Labour position.
Quote from: jeffh on October 15, 2017, 02: PM
Does anybody know when the Victoria Ward By-Election will take place?
Trish Lawton was due for re-election in 2019 and had a 568 majority out of 1264 votes cast. Maybe Ann Marshall can get a shoe in there if she bombs as Seaton - or is there some form of moratorium that would prevent her standing?
16 November jeff
Thanks
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/seaton-by-election-who-will-get-your-vote-1-8806124
Quote from: kevplumb on October 16, 2017, 01: PM
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/seaton-by-election-who-will-get-your-vote-1-8806124
How come she gets the bigger mugshot,corrupt **c**r*.
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on October 15, 2017, 12: AM
In Carls case, USDAW stands for Union of Shirkers & Dodgers Against Working.
A very close friend of mine worked in the retail sector and was involved in USDAW, he was well pished to discover that Richardson was attended USDAW conferences as their union delegate.
I'm going back only a few years, I idea that a man who has not been employed in the retail business for decades should be representing shop workers caused a few to voice thier concerns.
The deluded twit still uses USDAW as his platform within Hartlepool Trades Council, yet another talking shop for him and his like
Quote from: mk1 on October 15, 2017, 02: PM
It is a real problem for New 'new Labour'. It seems the old 'old Labour' voters no longer see them as having any connection with them. All the studies show that 'class' is no longer and indicator of political affiliation. The C2/Ds are just as likely to vote Tory as Labour. Indeed London not the North is the seat of Labour power.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/14/tories-gain-ground-small-towns
The findings will worry Labour MPs concerned that the party is losing touch with traditional supporters and is too focused on metropolitan issues. It comes as the party is struggling to come up with a position on Brexit that satisfies both its urban and traditional working-class supporters.
Analysis of recent elections also suggested that "the more a place has experienced relative decline, the worse Labour tends to perform in electoral terms (and the better the Conservatives do)". At the last election the swing to Labour was far higher in cities than in either large towns (+5.0) or small towns (+4.1), and even smaller in other areas (+3.0).
Lisa Nandy, the former shadow cabinet minister and Labour MP for Wigan, said her party needed to take on concerns about issues such as immigration to tackle the problem. "There is a long-term problem here that shows it is not only Labour has problems in towns, but increasingly people in towns think there is no one in the political establishment who is speaking for them," she said.
One big problem is that the Ds are far closer to the UKIP/Tory view on Immigration and The EU than to the Labour position.
I don't think the Labour electorate have moved one dot, the Party has. The Labour Party is more middle class than working class and the two are drifting apart.
Jeezus that video almost made me bring my tea up..what a crock of s**t!
The picture of an over-flowing smart bin seems to have had an effect. According to a guy from the council cleansing department, the bins are now being emptied more often than ever which rather contradicts the spin which accompanied their launch.
I guess over-flowing bins at £6,000 apiece are just too much of an embarrassment to risk in the middle of a by-election.
Wrong-footed Labour zealots are claiming the picture was staged . . . so whoever took it . . . expect a personal visit from 'Personal Trainer' Ann Marshall any time soon. :o :o
I've just played the video. Is that the voice of Jason Anderson off Hartlepool Radio?. The clue is when he drops the "h" when quoting undreds of people etc. That is unless Mr. Cranney wrote the script. Food for thought.
There's some interesting screen shots of Seaton by-election leaflets doing the rounds on facebook. It seems both the Conservative AND Labour leaflets (their latest ones) are fixated on telling people why they should NOT vote for UKIP, PHF or independents.
Mike whatshisface (I forget his name but i remember he has a beard) for the Conservatives has a particularly hilarious one out which tries to lay the blame for both the parking charges and the giant windturbines at the door of PHF for not being an effective opposition. His leaflet fails to mention which parties voted in suppport of both of those things.
Then there's one by Ann thingymajig (her who lost in Seaton twice and who was binned by the people of Rossmere) banging on about how bad PHF are and how good a councillor she 'is' despite her not actually being one.
I'll tell you something, if Ann Marshall does NOT win Seaton on Thursday she needs to call it a day. Not only has she had the whole of the Hartlepool Labour Party doing her bidding, she's also had a hell of a lot of help from the local press, a certain organisations public relations team, the local MP, and she's had responses and action from various council officers the like of which no 'ordinary' member of the public could ever dream of getting. She's also had what looks like orchistrated help from another 'traditional party' who claim to be diametrically opposed to everything she stands for.
Only in Hartlepool.
Ann Marshall never voted against the Labour Whip in her much spouted 8 years as a councillor...... Not Once.
A bit like the Tory chaps sitting colleagues...... They haven't voted against the Labour Whip...... ::)
Quote from: DRiddle on October 17, 2017, 07: PM
Mike whatshisface (I forget his name but i remember he has a beard) for the Conservatives has a particularly hilarious one out which tries to lay the blame for both the parking charges and the giant windturbines at the door of PHF for not being an effective opposition. His leaflet fails to mention which parties voted in suppport of both of those things.
Aren't the Tories supposed to be part of the opposition or have they went into a political civil partnership?
Fact is, they didn't propose parking charges or wind turbines, they were the 'brainchild' of the ruling clique and their lackeys. The responsibility therefore lays with the originator of these crackpot schemes, to blame the opposition is ludicrous logic.
In this town there is never any chance of the Tories being classed as part of the opposition.
Can someone post a copy of Mike Young's leaflet - always best to share a smile :)
https://s1.postimg.org/12lxr737db/tory_flyer.jpg
So how did the flock last of Tory/lites vote for on wind turbines and parking charges and what effect did it have?
Quote from: steveL on October 18, 2017, 08: AM
Can someone post a copy of Mike Young's leaflet - always best to share a smile :)
If Mike Young's leaflet is being backed by the Local Conservative Party, isn't the inference then that the Local Conservatives are NOT in opposition but part of a coalition with Labour? If that is the case then Martin-Well's position as Chair of Audit & Governance needs to be questioned as if there is a Lab/Con coalition then a Conservative can't be the chair of said committee - it needs to be Independent, UKIP or PHF
Might be worth somebody in Seaton asking the Conservative if his leaflet is endorsed by the Local Conservatives.
I wouldn't waste your time. It's an open secret in HBC that they're essentially in coalition. Very senior officers in HBC have used that word to describe their relationship. But without it being official they'll continue to do it.
You won't see significant changes in HBC until either the electorate wake up, or the government sends in someone to do a proper root and branch inquiry. That's not me 'giving up', it's just me telling it like it is.
Anybody know if Labour have old gadgies stationed outside all the polling stations today ?
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 19, 2017, 08: AM
Anybody know if Labour have old gadgies stationed outside all the polling stations today ?
na I'm not going out in the wet :D :D ;)
canvassing outside of polling stations is illegal
Yes, they have people sat outside today asking for your Electoral Register number. They will use it later to harass those who have not voted yet to get out and vote Labour. They are already promoting free lifts to vote if you need it.
I think the guy outside Seaton Library was slightly taken back by my 'curt' reply when he approached me :)
BTW - I posted this earlier today. Thought you all may be interested....
Just a thought - please feel free to share.......
A quick look at the HBC election results over the last 5 years, tells you a few little facts about some of today's election candidates:
Sue Little - Rejected by Seaton residents at the 2014, 2015 and 2016 local elections.
Mike Young - Rejected by Seaton residents at the 2015 and 2016 local elections.
Ann Marshall - Lost her seat as a Fens and Rossmere Councillor in 2012 (why if she was as effective as her election materials suggest??), rejected by Seaton Residents in the 2012 by-election, then again rejected by Fens and Rossmere residents in 2013 and 2016. Again, why would the residents of Fens and Rossmere reject someone, THREE TIMES, who claims to have been such a wonderful advocate for their ward.
The residents of Seaton are astute and can see through the falsehoods that have been spun during this election campaign by all three of the above plus the 'typical' UKIP candidate.
I have voted for Leisa Smith - Putting Seaton First today as the only credible candidate who will stand up for Seaton and ensure that we continue to have a strong voice.
If you vote Labour you will give more power to the existing bunch, make my day punk.
Ann Marshall..... the New, New Labour face in Seaton........ new Face Hartlepool labour, my a**e......look at who backs her and it takes about a nano second to work out she would do exactly what the rest of them do......... say Aye on CABS nod
Marshall and CAB were canvassing Glentower Grove as I drove home the other day . Weekend before last SAB was doing the rounds with her . If ever a reason or 2 not to vote Labour....
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young riddle has posted a pic on FB of mad dog sat inside the polling station right against the door >:(
see if I can post it
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so much for devlin :D :D :D
the gets think they are above mere rules >:(
Quote from Peter Devlins Re.Tellers letter.
"Tellers are required to follow the instructions of the Returning Officer. A failure to do so will lead to Police involvement, although, I would trust that this will not be required"
If this is the case, Mr Devlin should report any persons involved in the breaching of those directives to the police, there appears to be photographic evidence, at least in the case of Clr James for him to do just that.
One thing is for sure, he would only need to involve the police once to stop any furthers breaches of Electoral Guidelines in elections to come, if any of the candidates expressed an objection to the Returning Officer, surely he would be duty bound to involve the police ?
Congratulations to Seaton's newest Councillor, CLLR LEISA SMITH !!!!!!
I am sure that the chaps on a certain facebook forum will be spitting feathers now !
Brilliant
Great result. Well done my mate. Which Facebook group
Labour all but wiped out in spite of running one of the dirtiest campaigns ever.
Quote from: BresslawoffoftheBunker on October 19, 2017, 11: PM
Great result. Well done my mate. Which Facebook group
The one we're all banned from..... ;D ;D
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899 Independent votes to 275 Labour. A smack in the mouth I'd call that.
Oh dear oh dear. The first real test of new new labour in Hartlepool and they fall flat on their ar*ses.
I suspect the record response times for rubbish clean-up in Seaton are a thing of the past-the present Labour candidate being the last time we will see a swift swift removal of garbage!
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/921141154867040256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuc2d-pd4_8
excellent result :D :D :D :D
ms marshall fell flat on her fat *ss again despite all the bluster ;)
Taken at the count I presume? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154951610290233&set=p.10154951610290233&type=3&theater&ifg=1
At Least Marshall and Carl Richardson will have a few weeks to apply plenty of ointment and let the chaffing clear up before the next by election.
Imagine the spinning that will be going on today. I expect a lot of 'the wrong type of snow' bleating.
https://youtu.be/dz8QBOfnxc0?t=4m12s
A result for common sense and moral decency........well done to Leisa Smith and the voters of Seaton.
Yeah it was taken at the count. She seemed to be in a foul mood all night. Maybe she'd seen the exit polls. ::)
Right at the start when Peter Devlin was welcoming everybody and going through the formalities of the evening he said "The Seaton Carew Ward by-election . . . " and she growls over him "There is NO Seaton CAREW by-elction".
Then at the end, when it had become obvious her mate her taken a beating, Peter was reading out the official results. There was a bit of chatter from a few people as he did this and she yelps "Have some respect!". Within seconds Peter announced the winner and the vast majority of people in the room applauded, except of course her and the entire Labour group. They all sat there, arms folded, stoney faced, looking a bit shocked. That's when the photo was taken.
There were a few new, young Labour members there last night. Teenagers maybe, or early 20s at the most. It's them i feel sorry for. Young, idealistic, probably inspired by Jeremy Corbyn and i don't doubt they're genuinely in it for the right reasons. However, their 'mentors' appear to be SAB and Cranney.
I don't see it ending well.
Thank you for the reminder mad dog ...
Thank you to the voters from Jutty Road too that helped Leisa win.
Labour would have expected the voters of the Jutty Road area to have backed Ann Marshall, maybe they over estimated the OFCA Effect....but it looks as though they had sussed the labour candidate out.
Seems the excuse for failure will be the low turnout.
Strangely I never heard that mentioned when Barclay won a by election in 2013 with a 16% turnout.
Or McLaughlin won in a by election in May on a 24.4% turnout.
Oh by the way it was 'the best' Labour local election campaign Hartlepool has ever seen.
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https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 05: AM
Imagine the spinning that will be going on today. I expect a lot of 'the wrong type of snow' bleating.
https://youtu.be/dz8QBOfnxc0?t=4m12s
na it was the leaves on the path ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 01: AM
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/921141154867040256
I see the Terracotta Army of politics were on standby with their patronising quips looking down their noses at the result while seething that no one shared their enlightened vision of politics.
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 07: AM
Seems the excuse for failure will be the low turnout.
Strangely I never heard that mentioned when Barclay won a by election in 2013 with a 16% turnout.
Or McLaughlin won in a by election in May on a 24.4% turnout.
Oh by the way it was 'the best' Labour local election campaign Hartlepool has ever seen.
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https://www.facebook.com/annmarshallforseaton/
If it was a low turnout, doesn't she realise it looks even worse for her. Or does she live in a fantasy world where apparently only the Labour vote was a low turnout, in which case it looks even worse still.
As regards 'Ann Marshall for Seaton', should it now be changed to 'Ann Marshall
NOT for Seaton'.
I love it !
They tried every underhand tactic they could think of and still got paggered :D
look on the bright side (unless you live in Victoria ward) she is bound to help "comrade carl)
next month ;)
Quote from: kevplumb on October 20, 2017, 07: AM
I love it !
They tried every underhand tactic they could think of and still got paggered :D
look on the bright side (unless you live in Victoria ward) she is bound to help "comrade carl)
next month ;)
No chance, she's had enough, it's obvious (even to her) that she just been used as cannon fodder.
It's an interesting conclusion to arrive at that it was their "best campaign ever". My evaluation of that statement would be as follows;
(1) Don't tell half truths on your election leaflets, it doesn't make for a good campaign.
(2) Don't allow the Akers-Belcher's to knock on doors and deliver leaflets on your behalf, that won't help.
(3) Don't orchestrate your leaflets in cahoots with the other 'traditional party'. its doesn't make for a good campaign.
(4) Don't allow a person acting as a teller outside the Staincliffe to be mistaken for a homeless person by members of the public, so much so that one person (according to facebook) contemplated giving him 50p.
(5) Don't claim that you personally are responsible for bringing millions of pounds into Seaton, people will see through it.
And most importantly of all, in the polling station in the most deprived area of the ward, where you're likely to normally have some support, don't allow Marjorie James to sit in the doorway scowling at people. That definitely won't help.
Who the hell came up with that idea? The woman is absolutely toxic and as soon as that photo went viral on social media there was uproar across the Seaton facebook pages.
Putting her in the polling station in an attempt to get more votes is about as good an idea as letting Harvey Weinstein have some 'alone time' in the local garden centre in an attempt to sell more potted plants.
Quote from: DRiddle on October 20, 2017, 08: AM
letting Harvey Weinstein have some 'alone time' in the local garden centre in an attempt to sell more potted plants.
The restaurant owner was asked about that incident and claims that it was not a 'plant-pot' but the Sous Chef's pot and the dirty bug*ger placed it back on the hotplate to let it stew!
Too much salt chef, tastes a bit lumpy. Is it sago?........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfKnYKGTGQ
It would seem all the campaigning had no effect at all. If you look back to 2012
http://www.englishelections.org.uk/england/lby/northeast/seaton.php
you can see the Labour vote has always been in the mid 200s. From a low of 237, the high of 287 to the current 275. Best that can be said is that concentrating the total resources of the party and making every single councillor, party member and The MP canvas gained them 38 votes-or lost them 12!
Oh dear, Jeremy Corbyn.
What the people f Seaton Carew don't realise is that this was not only a vote against the party, but a vote against the Leader - there may be consequences - watch out for Dumb & Dumber in the white Bima
Fantastic News ! To celebrate my kids will make a mad dog guy fawkes in honour of her contribution at the polling station :). And a pumpkin for belcher
Quote from: Disgruntled voter on October 20, 2017, 08: AM
Fantastic News ! To celebrate my kids will make a mad dog guy fawkes in honour of her contribution at the polling station :). And a pumpkin for belcher
;D ;D
Don't forget to thank the Tories for their help is seeing off Labour:
https://www.facebook.com/MikeYoung81/posts/10155715393926212?pnref=story
Well done Leisa on winning what I believe was a depressing campaign from most sides. Hopefully, this will be the start of a real change within the Labour group in Hartlepool.
I was led to believe that Ann Marshall was to be the start of a real change in Hartlepool Labour.
I can just imagine the senior Labour councillors grouped together this morning wondering how they are going to pay for the red arrows flypast at the next Rifty fun day now that they have lost Ann's ward budget.
Quote from: fred c on October 20, 2017, 10: AM
I was led to believe that Ann Marshall was to be the start of a real change in Hartlepool Labour.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 11: AM
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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Are the two of them delusional?
They did stand
They can represent the ward
One of them won - and well done to her
What Mike Young needs to remember is the Local Conservatives have 3 seats which makes them a minority party - so how would they represent the ward - unless of course they are in coalition - we've already had that conversation
Even if the Lab/Con coalition had joined forces in this election they would of still only have had 455 votes and still LOST.
Has there been a new planet found somewhere in a solar system as these fools would seem to be living in some kind of parallel universe.
The Clangers and the Soup Dragon spring to mind.
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 11: AM
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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The phrases that begin thick as ... come to mind.
How sewer dwellers can talk about gutter politics with a straight face is beyond me.
The Victoria ward by election is going to be more challenging IMHO but with the effort of fighting.
I think they must be living in some sort of parallel universe if they think we fought dirty. We consciously opted not to. Look at their election leaflets compared to ours. PHF focussed on what they COULD do and how they would try to help. Labour and the Tories focussed on PHF and why we apparently CAN'T do anything.
A protest party? lol. I'll say it again, they're obviously completely oblivious to the history of their own party. The fact is Putting Hartlepool First have now won 8 council seats in Hartlepool since it's formation. The Tories haven't won anything outside of Rural West since Carl had a proper job.
Labour at local level are now so toxic in certain wards they can throw the full weight of everything they've got at a seat and still be humiliated quite easily.
I expect they'll learn lessons from this for the Victoria Ward by-election. The first lesson being not to let Marjorie James anywhere near the campaign management.
They're very sore losers aren't they?
Besides, we're saving our dirty tactics from Carl in 2018. ;)
Quote from: DRiddle on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
Besides, we're saving our dirty tactics from Carl in 2018. ;)
Bugger the athritis, I'll be out working when Carl Richardson is up, I might even treat myself to a new pair of trainers to aid delivery.
If UKIP stood down from that ward it would really screw Carlos, the man who voted for the 31% increase.
PHF aren't putting a candidate up in next month's Victoria by-election. Unfortunate timing is the main reason with the candidate having just taken on a foster kid but we're also saving resources for Carl in May 2018. We plan on giving him much more free-time so he can finally finish that investigation he promised into SAB's behaviour.
Quote from: Devils advocate on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
Has there been a new planet found somewhere in a solar system as these fools would seem to be living in some kind of parallel universe.
I feel sorry for the youngsters. The old hands know that you can lose as well as win. The new influx are totally oblivious to the fact that anyone could take issue with their politics. They genuinely believe they just have to show up and everyone will vote for them. They really really believed they were going to walk it in Seaton and the scale of their defeat has taken the wind out of their sails. They won't be so cocky next time around.
You have to laugh at the pic of CAB and Mad Dog at the count. Mad Dogs face looks like she really is chewing a wasp. Smacked ar*se does not even come close to portraying the anger within. A lugubriously addlepated splenetic harridan.
Quote from: Lord Elpus on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
Bugger the athritis, I'll be out working when Carl Richardson is up, I might even treat myself to a new pair of trainers to aid delivery.
Don't you remember the Labour Councillor who was out delivering leaflets at the last full election and yet suddenly became practically bedridden when a brand new bungalow was up for grabs a few weeks later?
She got it on 'medical' grounds and spent a few weeks hobbling about until she thought no one would remember and she started sprinting to Greggs again.
She found a 'miracle cure' I am sure she would share it with you.
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
A lugubriously addlepated splenetic harridan.
A description worthy of Shakespeare ...
I had to google the middle 3 words :-)
The level of contempt that certain people are now aiming towards the electorate in Seaton is quite frankly, astonishing.
I have today read, from both candidates and their supporters, some pretty vile stuff. One even choosing to call the voters 'Thick'.
That is not a very wise thing to do at all. The electorate have decided and that's that !
It would be a shame is someone is screen-shotting all of these comments and keeping them for next time any of them raise their heads again ;)
Quote from: DRiddleThe Tories haven't won anything outside of Rural West since Carl had a proper job.
Christ ! you must have a bl**dy good memory ;)
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on October 20, 2017, 01: PM
A description worthy of Shakespeare ...
He does feature Marj in one of his plays wot he wrote. She was in a previous incarnation and called Hecate.
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
You have to laugh at the pic of CAB and Mad Dog at the count. Mad Dogs face looks like she really is chewing a wasp. Smacked ar*se does not even come close to portraying the anger within. A lugubriously addlepated splenetic harridan.
It made my day seeing said picture, she is one vile specimen. I usually try and skip past any photos of mad dog but that one will cheer me up no end when i feel down.
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 11: AM
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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The phrases that begin thick as ... come to mind.
How sewer dwellers can talk about gutter politics with a straight face is beyond me.
The Victoria ward by election is going to be more challenging IMHO but with the effort of fighting.
Ann Marshall has obviously lost touch with reality......"Gutter Politics from a Protest Party"..... "Petty and Undignified"
Can I remind her that it was her party that had Mad Dog and Carl (the man in the threadbare suit) Richardson sitting inside the polling stations, despite strict instructions from the Monitoring Officer....... hopefully someone has requested that he involves the police about their antics.
Then you take a look back on their election leaflets....... Hans Christian Anderson comes to mind, did they think the residents of Seaton would fall for that load of tripe, she had such a fantastic record when she was the councillor in the Fens, they binned her...... several times.
As for the Tory....... talk about a "Protest Party"........The Tory party are supposed to be "The Protest Party" in Hartlepool....that is total B****x.
They are living in a different dimension to the rest of us.... DOHHHHHHHH
I thought he'd turned dyslexic
DYSLEXIA RULES KO!
Quote from: kevplumb on October 20, 2017, 04: AM
excellent result :D :D :D :D
ms marshall fell flat on her fat *ss again despite all the bluster ;)
She still got 275 votes so there must be a few residents who vote Labour because there Nanna and Grandad did.
For me it's shocking that people still for a Labour Candidate the introduction of the Parking Charges, the lack of movement on The Longscar and the thousands spent on the super Bon's.
BTW when does the trial period end for the Car Parking Charges and is it still in place over the Winter months ?
Halloween......appropriate or what? ;D
Quote from: seaton on October 20, 2017, 04: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on October 20, 2017, 04: AM
excellent result :D :D :D :D
ms marshall fell flat on her fat *ss again despite all the bluster ;)
She still got 275 votes so there must be a few residents who vote Labour because there Nanna and Grandad did.
For me it's shocking that people still for a Labour Candidate the introduction of the Parking Charges, the lack of movement on The Longscar and the thousands spent on the super Bon's.
BTW when does the trial period end for the Car Parking Charges and is it still in place over the Winter months ?
Good chance the vote came from the Jutland Road area - according to the signs the car parking charges stop for the winter on November 1st
I believe the next consultation is November 8th
As for a trial period - it will have been deemed a great success and will remain in place - pity Ann Marshall didn't get in, because if she had they would have been lifted - or so she said
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 20, 2017, 12: PM
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 11: AM
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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What colour is the sky in their world?
How anyone could keep a straight face while churning out cobblers like this is an insult to even an hamsters intelligence. The self delusion and obvious inability to accept that the voters have no time for either candidate is pitiful and cringeworthy. They represent two party's living in a parallel universe. Two party's who need the drains up.
The arrogance is breath-taking. What they are saying is that you can only vote for either Labour or Conservatives, which in Hartlepool are uniquely joined at the hip. A vote for anyone else is a waste.
The road to a one-party state.
I I watched the video of all the candidates being interviewed last week . I jumped to the labour candidate first. ...and for the first minute or two I thought I was watching an audition for the undateables
You can still watch that video on You Tube but all the videos on Ann's site are gone. They are erasing history and are now claiming they never expected to win anyway. Bollocks. You don't get the local MP canvasing in a Council by-election if you think you have no chance.
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I got all the photos and films off the site before they were pulled
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Quote from: mk1They are erasing history and are now claiming they never expected to win anyway.
that's why they tried every underhand trick in the book (some of which want looking at IMHO) but devlin is a CAB puppet as we all know
sour grapes because the arrogant git thought she would pee it :D :D
would appear she was wrong ;D
OO this has made my day no end seeing the lying corrupt tw@ts with faces like smacked ar$es.
Justice,Karma call it what you will but hopefully the winds of change are a coming..hip hip hoorah!
Quote from: mk1 on October 20, 2017, 11: AM
Anyone still doubt the Tories & Labour were working together?
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I assume they're referring to their own party's, because the descriptions are remarkably apt.
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Surely not? The political giants of Hartlepool are beyond such petty emotions ... ;)
The Corbynistas fell flat on their collective arses. Despite swamping the area with out-of-town canvassers and making every sitting councillor leaflet along with the MP the labour vote stayed the same as it was in the last two ward elections.
Let that sink in. Everything they did was a total failure. They got no more votes after all their hard work than they would have got if they just sat on their ar*ses and did nothing.
The 'surge' never happened. No one was motivated to vote, No one was inspired to make the effort to vote for the new dawn. No one other than those who voted Labour before gave a flying feck about New New Labour.
In short they found out no one but them believes the hype. There still crying on The Mail page. They will never accept the fact they were rejected. A poxy 275 votes is all they could manage and they had them on day 1!
On a side note I hear they have to use paper cups and plates at Labour HQ. They no longer have the ability to rinse their cups as they threw the sink at Seaton and the super-efficient bin-men removed it before they could get it back!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So what about Victoria Ward by-election ?
The Labour task force arrived in Seaton throwing every thing in their limited arsenal at the electorate. In true Great War fashion they sent their gophers over the top to be mown down. When they noticed this happening the responded by throwing even more gophers into a fray they were ill equipped to manage.
Defeat came as a surprise, they couldn't comprehend why and neither could their allies.
They left the battlefield denying they'd ever fought a battle, what battle?
Don't mention the war, especially the retreat from Seaton.
Quote from: Stig of the Seaton Dump on October 21, 2017, 07: PM
So what about Victoria Ward by-election ?
if comrade carl comes knocking on my door he will get a few home truths >:(
Labour should, give the opposition, walk the Victoria by-election. Ray's put up his token candidate again and ukip have a free punt at it. If the ukip vote collapses in Victoria (and I think it will) it might pepper over some of the cracks within the labour group. But the cracks will still be there.
Wells would be open to question if he didn't put forward a candidate; remember that in the real world, the Tories are supposed to be the opposition to Labour. UKIP are in their death-throws; the head is dead but the fingers are still twitching.
Labour will stroll to a win but the turnout figure will be interesting. Next May in Victoria will be far more interesting still.
Did you know we had a Southampton Labour Councillor campaigning in Seaton?
A Southampton Councillor involved in conflict with local Independents?
http://www.sotonindies.org/2017/08/
I guess he just don't like independents!
The Southampton Councillor seems to have perfected the art of picking losers.
Here he has signed a Letter in support of the losing Labour Leadership Candidate Owen Smith
http://labourlist.org/2016/08/500-labour-councillors-why-we-are-backing-owen-smith-to-continue-the-fight-against-austerity/
I imagine there will be many more faux pas by calamity Chris in the midst of the Victoria Ward by-election. I particularly look forward to the time the bloke who made sure old people have to pay £5 for an alarm to stop them dying if they fall over..... is pictured wearing a £165 scarf. lol.
He wouldn't be that daft would he?
#scarfgate
#uptheworkers
(Price corrected by Mk1)