Local Elections - May 5th

[beanzontoast]

MK1  That was not my point and you know it, so lets get to the chase, personally i don`t know who you are or what ward you are in ( honest ) however in the spirit of my last thread Which Party are you voting for in this Local election. I assure you i wish to make no political capital out of this nor, I assure you am I the least bit concerned, I only ask as many on this forum want to see the back of SAB and CAB, UKIP have a candidate in both wards get used to it.
My belief is you won`t mention who you have voted for, and of course that is your choice, thankfully you still have that choice. Now should CAB get voted in again.
My thoughts on this senerio is this, will this forum go off air on May 6th rightly it should as you moanining minnies have voted and as always you get the council you deserve. It is after all just a thought.

[Foggy]

I have stated several times in this topic who I will be voting for next week.  However, I'm not sure what people stating who they will vote for will achieve.  It doesn't take a genius to work out that the majority of posters on here will not be voting labour on May 5th. It is not the people on here you want to worry about, it's the ones who don't visit this forum or the various Facebook groups that you need to get your message to.... And by message I don't mean any of that EU rubbish, I mean what are UKIP going to do at a local level to make this town a better place.

I think referring to people on here as 'moaning minnies' just shows how out of touch with reality you are. The difference between what some people on here have done to try and challenge and expose certain councillors and what UKIP councillors have done since being elected is fairly staggering. 

[fred c]

BOT......................

"My thoughts on this senerio is this, will this forum go off air on May 6th rightly it should as you moanining minnies have voted and as always you get the council you deserve. It is after all just a thought"

I have no intention of getting involved in this particular battle of wits, suffice to say, I don`t consider myself or the vast majority of contributors to this forum as "Moaning Minnies".

There have been many instances were issues brought to the publics attention started on these pages, the one constant in the criticism of the way The LabTor Mob operate has been the Hartlepool Post.

It may have escaped your attention, but the Post & its founders have been in existence for many more years than your party.

[DRiddle]

The Labour Party will be in charge of the council on May 6th, it's mathematically impossible for them NOT to be, assuming the coalition says in tact.

What people are hoping for, begging for, praying for on here and across the town is for a change in the balance of power within the Labour group. Ideally, that will come via the leader of their group loosing his seat.

However, i won't be holding my breath even if that happens. There are simply too many who are too weak within their group. They simply wouldn't have the guts to stand up to Cranney, James et al even if one or both of the A-Bs lost their seat.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but i don't see a leader within their ranks.

Even if there IS one who emerges, he or she will get little or no respect from me because they should have done something to sort out the farce of a council a long time ago. Not just sat back and allowed the council to be dragged through the mud time and time again.

Anyway, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nobody really knows which way the polls will go on May 5th. 

[steveL]

That's not what I'm praying for ..... to me the unwillingness of the local Labour Group to police itself properly means that is has surrendered any legitimate right it has to govern this town.

I don't see a Labour Party presence in Hartlepool. What I do see is a bunch of self-serving crooks who have hijacked the brand aided and abetted by a supporting cast of total cowards. The very suggestion that the likes of the SCABS and Cranney are socialists is laughable.

[mk1]

However, i won't be holding my breath even if that happens. There are simply too many who are too weak within their group.
Anyway, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nobody really knows which way the polls will go on May 5th.

Which is the reason they were picked as candidates in the first place. Spineless jellyfish waiting for the chance of an extra allowance and nothing else.

If only Clark would grow a pair.

https://youtu.be/WY7UlwMSBUw?t=4m17s

[Paul Thompson]

Hi Beanzontoast , AKA Cllr Tom Hind.

When I signed up for this forum, I was also asked for a username and I chose Paul Thompson, because
a) that's my name
b) I wanted people to know who was making the comments
c) because I have the courage of my convictions to stand by what I say and say it again to someone's face if asked

Therefore, in response to your other question on how I have voted for next week (I'm a postal voter)....I have voted for James Black in Seaton as he is the most credible and intelligent of them all (which is why I was more than happy to sign his nomination papers) and I have voted for Sultan Alam in the PCC elections (if you are interested why, you can follow this https://www.facebook.com/Paul-Thompson-Seaton-Matters-1548132715454300/?fref=nf)

BTW - one of your UKIP activitsts was apologising on a previous Facebook post of mine for your poor attendance at Full Council and other meetings by saying that you worked full time but are now retired. Congratulations on your recent retirement and I look forward to seeing you more at council and reflecting on your observations. See you next Saturday at our Ward Surgery

[Foggy]

Look no further than today's write up about SAB in the fail if ever evidence is needed that ward budgets are used to influence voters.

I see the Tory candidate put a lot of effort into their write up. 

In other news... I have now received a UKIP leaflet 

[DRiddle]

I've just read this on a UKIPPERS election burb in The Mail...

The hospital at Wynyard will not be built so the best course is to try to regain some of the facilities we used to have at the University hospital, Hartlepool. Only UKIP seems to have the will or any idea how to do this.

Read more: http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/hartlepool-local-elections-who-will-get-your-vote-in-hart-ward-1-7882607#ixzz47K9X9Gv8

The last i heard the lad who stood for UKIP in the general election was trying to save it via a facebook page. Then there's Tom who wants to ban anyone from another country coming here (thus putting even more pressure on finding Doctors and nurses to work within the NHS) and there's George... I'm not entirely convinced he knows where the hospital is, let alone how to save it.

Oh and let's not forget UKIP in its wider sense and Mr Farage... what does he think about the NHS and local hospitals?

"I think we are going to have to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare."

"Frankly, I would feel more comfortable that my money would return value if I was able to do that through the marketplace of an insurance company, than just us trustingly giving £100billion a year to central government and expecting them to organize the healthcare service from cradle to grave for us,"   - Nigel Farage

Sounds to me he want's to privatize the NHS in the same way the Tories do.

Election soundbites in Hartlepool have reached laughable levels.

[Land Phil]

Pity Jean wasn't allowed more space to finish the sentence ...

Councillor Paul Beck and I have used our ward member's budgets to improve the area and support local groups. Other councillors from opposition parties have voted to remove this vital support to our electioneering campaigns.

Interesting to see what she looks like as well, about as elusive as that lass from Seaton.

[Foggy]

The UKIP leaflet I received is a little disappointing. Nothing about Darren Price the person. Usual stuff about council tax, the combined authority and hospital services. All issues which are just about in the past. What do UKIP plan to do going forward?

Apparently "only UKIP will fight to keep Council tax affordable" 

Also, a totally pointless illustration with last years poll totals stating that PHF can't win here. Well at least that's a true statement.. They can't win as there's no PHF candidate standing!

I don't want to have a go at Darren Price as I would like to think he will do a good job as a councillor. BUT come on UKIP... There's an opportunity here... Don't screw it up.

[steveL]

The little histogram they have used is actually the results from the General Election; the sort of slight-of-hand that we would more usually expect from the SCABS but then again, if we've found someone within UKIP that actually knows how to construct a histogram then that has to be an advance - hasn't it? 

[mk1]

Also, a totally pointless illustration with last years poll totals stating that PHF can't win here.

The design was probably  completed when UKIP was planning to make sure it ran in every ward so they had to expect PHF candidates. When PHF gave UKIP a free run (which despite UKIP claims had nothing to do with them in any way) they were caught out.  That is what happens when you back-stab in the cause of the greater good of the National Party!

[Lord Elpus]

Been watching Farage on the 'Andrew Marr program', he said voting UKIP at a local level ensures you have Councillors who will be vocal and stand up for their communities. 

Not in Hartlepool, the current UKIP Councillors are a complete waste of space.

[Foggy]

Made me feel a bit queasy reading this