What's going on?

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Tee_Ess_25er

Quote from: DRiddle on December 06, 2019, 10: PM
My guess is it's only a matter of time before someone's mask slips and the more insidious side of at least one member of the local Brexit party is revealed.

Quote from: mk1 on December 06, 2019, 10: PM
I am hearing  whispers about just  such an event.

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 07, 2019, 11: AM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 07, 2019, 07: AM
All I'm saying is, back when the Brexit Party was called UKIP, the party regularly made the news for the 'personal views' of several of its members. Rozanne Duncan is just one of many, MANY examples I could point to.
UKIP  is a rump minority, but your obsession with it drives you on believing it's ghost can jump into other Party's.

I've always been of the opinion the 'natural political home' for people with views like that (given the demise of UKIP and the BNP) is now the Brexit party.
You have a deluded talent for assuming something them stating it as fact because you assume it.

That does NOT mean I'm saying everyone associated with the Brexit Party is racist.
Just what does it mean, you dodge and swerve but never actually say anything of consequence. Unadulterated waffle.

However, if a councillor within HBC was outed as a racist (perhaps next week for example) I think it's a safe bet which party said councillor would represent.
So are you saying you're going 'out' someone ? Sounds like desperation, the nuclear option? Let's see eh?
If it does happen, how long had it been known and I wonder why next week.Doh!



Quote from: DRiddle on December 07, 2019, 08: PM
You'd think after six or seven years of me posting on this forum, you'd have become more familiar with my modus operandi.

This is how it works. I allude to something which is definitely happening or is definitely the case already. Certain members on here scoff, mock, point the finger and accuse me of having a 'dodgy crystal ball' or whatever.

A few days tick by and what I was alluding to happens.

People then say "Ah but, blah blah blah" . . .

Ah well, Groundhog Day will arrive via channel 4 probably on Monday. ;-)


So glad you are finding it easy to dismiss this IK but you have been on the board for long enough to know if DR gets whiff of something he will normally throw out breadcrumbs here and then the story will actually drop a little later.  Just because the views on here have (imo) now become extremely polarised to the point of out and out hatred does not mean that he should be so blatantly and obviously ignored because it looks like it will involve a party that you have thrown your lot in with, you will start shouting 'Fake news' soon I guess if something does come out.  I will be waiting to see what hits.

For me personally after all that has happened in this town over the last few years I find myself in a position that I cannot get even close to 100% behind any party running in the upcoming GE so I just don't know where to put my X this coming Thu.  One thing people have been saying is that you should then vote for the lesser of all the evils, I may do that but one thing I will never be going for is Farages latest circus act because all he has ever pushed is fear and lies, he is the countries biggest bestest con man.

akarjl2

Quote from: Tee_Ess_25er on December 08, 2019, 10: AM
For me personally after all that has happened in this town over the last few years I find myself in a position that I cannot get even close to 100% behind any party running in the upcoming GE so I just don't know where to put my X this coming Thu.  One thing people have been saying is that you should then vote for the lesser of all the evils

Same here

This has been a really low effort election. I have not had a single candidate show his face on our estate . I've had once leaflet from the village idiot representing Labour- perhaps significant as they think they will get in by default. Nothing from anyone else.

I think:
Corbyn is a liar, antisemitic and a dangerous supporter of violent groups such as Hamas an IRA......If Kea Stammer was leader different story
Swinson is a child and clueless who wants to ignore the wishes of the majority
Tice - so what WILL he do when we have left EU and he is maybe the only Brexit Party MP= waste of space
Johnson a lying buffoon.....with a strange concept of honour

So I who gets my vote.......

Reality it is a choice between Labour and Conservative

I really think Labour are basically mad socialists/communists and fundamentally dangerous who will place UK at risk from an economic and security view point.I am not supporting a man who seems to revel in the company of people who wanted/want to kill us. I toyed with binning my polling card but in my own little way I want to send a message to labour to say both locally and nationally they are finished.

= Lessor of all evils

Conservatives

I really wish MK1 had stood as an independent - he knows all the answers ;)


The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

Inspector Knacker

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Quote from: Tee_Ess_25er on December 08, 2019, 10: AM
So glad you are finding it easy to dismiss this IK
No problem for me as I never regarded him as the Messiah some folk do.
....but you have been on the board for long enough to know if DR gets whiff of something he will normally throw out breadcrumbs here and then the story will actually drop a little later. 
And there's the problem, I can't be doing with his George Smiley/ Secret Squirrel theatrics,  if he has knowledge of any information of wrongdoing, why is it being held back, for political gain?

Just because the views on here have (imo) now become extremely polarised to the point of out and out hatred does not mean that he should be so blatantly and obviously ignored
How do you take seriously someone comiing on the board asking the same question day after day looking for ''racists'.to debate with. I call that odd and offensive. You may think he descended from the clouds on a shaft of divine sunlight, I don't, he's just a local politician..
because it looks like it will involve a party that you have thrown your lot in with, you will start shouting 'Fake news' soon I guess if something does come out.  I will be waiting to see what hits.
I'm not in a Party never have been and never will be,  I JUST WANT THE MOST USELESS MP WE'VE EVER HAD OUT AND WHOEVER I THINK CAN DO THAT WILL GET MY SUPPORT....AND THERE MY SUPPORT WILL END! I'm called a floating voter, we decide elections, not the 'I've always voted for......
For me personally after all that has happened in this town over the last few years I find myself in a position that I cannot get even close to 100% behind any party running in the upcoming GE so I just don't know where to put my X this coming Thu.  One thing people have been saying is that you should then vote for the lesser of all the evils, I may do that but one thing I will never be going for is Farages latest circus act because all he has ever pushed is fear and lies, he is the countries biggest bestest con man.
So you're happy with Mike eh? Because that's what you're gonna get then. You'll have made  David's day.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Tee_Ess_25er on December 08, 2019, 10: AM
Just because the views on here have (imo) now become extremely polarised to the point of out and out hatred..............
Indeed. It seems that if you point out Shanes duplicity the fruitcakes go into a complete meltdown.
What was once condemned as Labour lies and duplicity is now lauded as sound tactics.
It appears many where lying when for the last decade they said they were against Labour corruption and they were really
just Labour-phobic and lacking the courage to come out and admit it.
They are not against lies and corruption when their politicians practise it.



akarjl2

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 08, 2019, 12: PM
How do you take seriously someone comiing on the board asking the same question day after day looking for ''racists'.to debate with. I call that odd and offensive. You may think he descended from the clouds on a shaft of divine sunlight, I don't, he's just a local politician..

Actually he is a failed EX politician.
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

akarjl2

Quote from: mk1 on December 08, 2019, 12: PM
Quote from: Tee_Ess_25er on December 08, 2019, 10: AM
Just because the views on here have (imo) now become extremely polarised to the point of out and out hatred..............
Indeed. It seems that if you point out Shanes duplicity the fruitcakes go into a complete meltdown.

Define fruitcake? All politicians? Have to agree with you there.

Anyone who voted for brexit? Well that is just an opinion.

.....or do you mean anyone who's bored by your "the records stuck" rhetoric? Probably a large proportion of forum members?
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

mk1

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 08, 2019, 12: PM
I can't be doing with his George Smiley/ Secret Squirrel theatrics,  if he has knowledge of any information of wrongdoing, why is it being held back, for political gain?[/b]


Used to happen all the time in Steve's day. In fact a good number of his discoveries never saw the light of day because if you can not 100% prove something it can come back to bite you. I know for a fact that when a very high profile  local policeman was being investigated by the Sunday Papers about Corruption they found evidence of  an affair (they photographed the pair together at local gyms and pubs) but as they lacked 100% proof they did not use that information. Same with Steve. Lots of TV channels were given info about The SCABs that they started to investigate but that they felt they could not use because of the proof hurdle.
What is happening here is Knicky-Knack trying to find out how serious the damage is and under the delusion he can demand an answer in order to 'warn' the racist Party. They probably already know and are, as we speak, working upa defence. Why not email Shane and ask what he knows about it?

Here is  a clue. It is not anti-Jewish racism.

mk1


Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on December 08, 2019, 01: PM

What is happening here is Knicky-Knack trying to find out how serious the damage is and under the delusion he can demand an answer in order to 'warn' the racist Party.
Wrong as usual, I have never been, are or will be a member of any party. So, theoretically, this warning to the 'racist party, what would I warn them about as I know nothing at all. So I assume it's gonna be on here, but are you so dumb as not to realise everyone would know anyway if that was the case.You don't think things through do you.
They probably already know and are, as we speak, working upa defence. Why not email Shane and ask what he knows about it?
Know what? I don't do telepathy or mind-reading and nothing's appeared on here so work that one out. As for e-mailing Shane why when I don't know the bloke, anyway you're the one with a massive obsession about him so e-mail him yourself and make your day.so

Here is  a clue. It is not anti-Jewish racism.Never claimed it was your party.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Inspector Knacker

What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 08, 2019, 02: PM
anyway you're the one with a massive obsession about him so e-mail him yourself and make your day.so[/b]

Been in contact with Shane many times. Relations were always civil even when he was Ray Well's apologist.  In fact after he left The Con-servatives  he would send me bits of gossip about Labour so that I could post them here.


mk1

Quote from: akarjl2 on December 08, 2019, 12: PM


Actually he is a failed EX politician.
Failed?
I remember when the internet was awash with blogs telling the world David was going to fail in Hart. Official and unofficial Labour attack sites made the most outrageous claims with one infamous doughnut even claiming he had 'a secret' he was going to drop just before polling day and he had an army of canvassers ready to leaflet this in Hart. Turns out he was talking out of his rsole and despite his demented stalking David won and totally humiliated him. He never got over this and descended into ever-more insane stalking that was just as futile. The seeds of Labours destruction were sown and it lead to the eventual implosion of the local party.
There is one ironic footnote. Recently one of these tormented souls has been in touch gloating and  saying more or less 'I told you they were really just  a bunch of racist loonys' and it is impossible to disagree with that sentiment.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on December 08, 2019, 02: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 08, 2019, 02: PM
anyway you're the one with a massive obsession about him so e-mail him yourself and make your day.so[/b]

Been in contact with Shane many times. Relations were always civil even when he was Ray Well's apologist.  In fact after he left The Con-servatives  he would send me bits of gossip about Labour so that I could post them here.
Like I said, I don't know the bloke and steer well clear of any politician. Even brushing past them is difficult because just like plutonium,  you don't want them to come too close in case you get them on your clothes.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 08, 2019, 03: PM
d steer well clear of any politician. Even brushing past them is difficult because just like plutonium,  you don't want them to come too close in case you get them on your clothes.
At work I would sometimes had to 'advocate' against people I worked with closely. This never transferred over into the work environment. It is possible to compartmentalise your life. Those who  fixate completely on a single issue so that it is at the core of every decision they make are the problem. They are in a cult.

akarjl2

Quote from: mk1 on December 08, 2019, 03: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on December 08, 2019, 12: PM


Actually he is a failed EX politician.
Failed?


Maybe I am missing something he is not a Clownceller anymore= failed to get elected?
Quote'I told you they were really just  a bunch of racist loonys' and it is impossible to disagree with that sentiment.

Awww bless if in doubt resort to the usual bollux hahahahah
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....