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Title: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on December 11, 2019, 04: AM
as a plaything of the extreme right.
First the Cosmo fight
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Then the infamous Question Time where an agressive and uneducated baying mob was presented as the face of Hartlepool. The reaction was universally negative and made no better when one  of UKIPs finest offered another audience member out live on air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sidaA8W0m00


Then a disgusting far-far right councillor is elected


https://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/councillors/143/karen_king

Now a pigs-head fasnatic and 5 times  ejected football thug who deals coke

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The man is so proud of his actions he is stopping people in the street to tell them so don't try and say no one in UKIP had ever heard this before.

We are a laughing stock and I don't know which is the more sickening. The blatant racists or the apologist who answer these latest charges with idiotic 'they are all the same'.. they are all at it,or when all else fails just parrot 'Dianne Abbot'.
The racism and criminality is clear so do not try and mitigate it. Despite your belief that its all worth it in the name of Brexit. It really isn't. Just hang your head in shame and ride out the storm.


These angry pot-bellied  over-the-hill football hooligans are the key Brexit Party/UKIP/EDL  demographic and their dog-whistle politics  pander to them. The far-right loves the uneducated thugs.

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Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 05: AM
Yep we all saw the channel 4 interview.

Your point being?

Nobody with half a brain would admit to voting for Brexit Party in Hartlepool given the report on the activities of these neanderthals - well ADMIT to voting for them.....

Hopefully it means Brexit Party supporters will either vote conservative or destroy their ballot papers.

We are about to find out.........

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 06: AM
Obviously from previous posts you can see that I knew this storm was coming before most. Nothing in the channel 4 expose surprised me. The views and lifestyle choices of the ex councillor were widely known. They weren't necessarily known to some of the recent Brexit Party converts, but they were widely known more broadly across the town.

He isn't exactly what you might call a 'closet racist'.

As for the 'pigs head anecdote' and whether anyone else in the Brexit party had heard it, no one can say for certain without proof.

However, I do know that one person I'm acquainted to said 'ah the pigs head thing? I'm sick of hearing that story. He's told that story more times than you'll hear Fairytale of New York at Christmas".

Title: Putting Hartlepool on the map...........BRIEFLY
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 06: AM
Smacks of "I told you so"..........

and your point is?

Locally

Brexit Party nutters
Labour couldn't lie straight in bed ( Belcher/Cranney etc)- Mike Hill a waste of space
Independents - follow the money ( as in independent until they think they can get something out of it) or generally unstable self opinionated wannabes......or even worse jump ship.....bet Shame Shanes bum is nipping......
Local Conservatives - not to be trusted.

Politicians must be well suited to a religious life (priest/vicar/monk/Imam etc?) Blind allegiance to a fantasy belief and in a position where you can stand up and pontificate because you know better?

As I have said previously there is not a single politician associated with Hartlepool you can trust - the clue is there.....Politician ........aka liar.

= Tacktical voting tomorrow.

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 06: AM
They're cretins who've been rumbled. Good riddance, but howlong have you known about this, because I'd like to know how much quicker they could have been exposed and removed from public life. The timing of your disclosure begs the question why the delay? As if we don't know the answer. The repeated attacks on the post before the election which finally shut it down also came as no surprise. Wonder who was behind that...?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
If you knew all this David which is a revelation to most people why did YOU not speak up if you've known it for this long....? People like this want cleansing from local politics.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
If you knew all this David which is a revelation to most people why did YOU not speak up if you've known it for this long....? People like this want cleansing from local politics.

If, as you claim, knew about this before most - assuming you had evidence - why didn't you go public/report potential criminal activity to police?

Smacks of looking the other way......

....you are not the the only one here who constantly claims to have "inside/prior" knowledge.

Bottom line if you have hard evidence of criminality grow some and report to police.

or

Keep quiet.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
Mk1 is up to his tired old trick of posting pictures of a few gob sh*#es and portraying all leavers as oafs.
Trouble is, it's like football supporters, you have a tiny minority of halfwits who are portrayed as representing all football supporters, when really 99.99% of supporters despise them , but it serves the purpose of denigrating all supporters to some twisted people.
Same with leavers, no one condones this crap in office (pity there was a delay when it's obviously it was common knowledge for long enough) and the scum have been removed, but I expect Mk1 one to produce tons and tons of material unread by no one, not even him, just terminal insomniacs.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on December 11, 2019, 01: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
If you knew all this David which is a revelation to most people why did YOU not speak up if you've known it for this long....? People like this want cleansing from local politics.
Shane was told last Friday and he never said a word in public about it.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 02: PM
Look at the timing of my posts alluding to it. It's clear I knew about it. I agree he needed exposing.

Think on this before you cast your stones. Channel 4 knew EXACTLY where to send their undercover journalists. They knew EXACTLY who to befriend and to get the start running his mouth off.

They knew that. They didn't roll into Hartlepool on the off chance.

It looks to me like he WAS exposed by someone.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 03: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 02: PM
Channel 4 knew EXACTLY where to send their undercover journalists.

No s**t Sherlock........there is only ONE Brexit Party office in Hartlepool.

When did you become aware of specific people within HBC/Brexit Party who were openly racist?

If it was Friday before the C4 program - if you had SPECIFIC proof why didn't you report it/them instead of waffling on about something about to happen?

Coincidentally the Brexit Party formation canvassing team arrived on our estate this morning.....they stopped me in the street and said:

Can we rely on your support?

You must be joking did you not watch the channel 4 program?

Ah yes but they have been sacked we are not all like that

Maybe not but you should have been aware of what they were like you sat in the same office as them FFS!

Give us a chance

You must be joking you blew it.

It would appear they got the same response from other houses in street as one of them later who was daft enough to tackle the wife as she left from door when told:

I am not even going to talk to you you should be ashamed of yourselves .....responded

Mmmmm yes we are getting that a lot this morning.

Brexit Party implodes.....

Can't wait for Shane to get raped by the press........

Brexit team are at Staincliff......Poolies against racism demo team freezing their nuts off on opposite side of road....

Looks like ballot paper is going in the bin.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 08: PM
Quote
No s**t Sherlock........the re is only ONE Brexit Party office in Hartlepool

I thought my point was obvious, but apparently not. I meant channel 4 could have sent their undercover journalists anywhere in the England. They could have trailed any one  of the hundreds of Brexit party candidates, canvassers, representatives and hangers on in the country.

BUT they rocked up to in Hartlepool and 'befriended' ex councillor Mincher.

That wasn't a coincidence.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 08: PM
Why didn't you report them if you had prior knowledge?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 09: PM
Report who to whom?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on December 11, 2019, 09: PM
if you were aware of the pigs head/cocaine supplying/ incitement to racial hatred.....the police?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 12, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: mk1 on December 11, 2019, 01: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on December 11, 2019, 07: AM
If you knew all this David which is a revelation to most people why did YOU not speak up if you've known it for this long....? People like this want cleansing from local politics.
Shane was told last Friday and he never said a word in public about it.
[/quoteDavid's apparently  known for far longer but said nowt. If we'd known they could have had the drains up and flushed them out a lot sooner. It's all in the timing eh?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 12, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 02: PM
Look at the timing of my posts alluding to it. It's clear I knew about it. I agree he needed exposing.

Think on this before you cast your stones. Channel 4 knew EXACTLY where to send their undercover journalists. They knew EXACTLY who to befriend and to get the start running his mouth off.

They knew that. They didn't roll into Hartlepool on the off chance.

It looks to me like he WAS exposed by someone.
WAS IT YOU? You apparently knew what was going on by coming on here playing silly games giving hints about this when this which should have been revealed when it first came to light.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on December 12, 2019, 07: AM
Quote from: DRiddle on December 11, 2019, 09: PM
Report who to whom?
Seriously? You truly are a politician from the top of your head to the tips of your toes.  ::)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 07: AM
2 days into 2020 and another 'Brexit Party Councillor involved in racism controversy' situation is brewing.

It's not a 'big' as the channel 4 Mincher thing, but the core is essentially the same.

The numbers are getting quite tight in the chamber now though.

So will it be a swift sacking from the party, or merely an apology and 'crack on' as if nothing happened?
Title: Prove it
Post by: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 07: AM
For god sake here we go again - the "riddler" trying to prove his value/smartness with preemptive  "told you so" post here....warm up for an attempt at re election?

1. Nobody gives a s**t about the Brexit party any more why because....try n keep up ....we are leaving Europe at the end of the month.

2.If you have real evidence of racism anywhere other than Chinese whispers- grow some balls and report it to the police

3. If you have no EVIDENCE that would stand up in court- shut up.
Title: Re: Prove it
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 08: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 07: AM
For god sake here we go again - the "riddler" trying to prove his value/smartness with preemptive  "told you so" post here....warm up for an attempt at re election?

1. Nobody gives a s**t about the Brexit party any more why because....try n keep up ....we are leaving Europe at the end of the month.

2.If you have real evidence of racism anywhere other than Chinese whispers- grow some balls and report it to the police

3. If you have no EVIDENCE that would stand up in court- shut up.



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Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 09: AM
You are aware they still run the council, right? If you're happy for the town to be ran by a party with an overtly racist member that's up to you. Personally I'd rather that wasn't the case.

We leave the EU this month do we? Lol

Of course we do  ;)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 09: AM
You are aware they still run the council, right? If you're happy for the town to be ran by a party with an overtly racist member that's up to you. Personally I'd rather that wasn't the case.

Great grow some and report it to the police.

QuoteWe leave the EU this month do we? Lol

Of course we do  ;)

Penny has dropped then?

So you are pis*ed off that a government  set on leaving EU is in power and you are only concerned with pointing fingers at the now redundant Brexit party who nobody with a life has any further interest in.

Shame will be desperately wondering who will have him and his clowns next and how he can continue milking the system- the same as all other clowncillers.

I will take your attempted deflection to mean you haven't got the balls to make an official report to the police if you have specific evidence - typical wanna be politician.

Alternatively you are talking sh**e.

Nothing new there then  ;)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Johnny Bongo on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 09: AM
If you're happy for the town to be ran by a party with an overtly racist member that's up to you.

First of all, Happy New Year to one and all.
Mr Riddle, what do you mean by the underlined term above?  Is this person ranting and raving against other races OR has he expressed his opinion to a few people?  No undercover reporters this time?  If he was COVERTLY racist, we wouldn't know, would we!  If, or more likely, when The Brexit councillors all jump ship and join another party (if anyone will have them!)
who do you think will be the party with overall control of the Council?  Who would you prefer?  Interesting year ahead! 
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on January 02, 2020, 02: PM

Mr Riddle, what do you mean by the underlined term above?  Is this person ranting and raving against other races OR has he expressed his opinion to a few people?

https://youtu.be/6zkL91LzCMc?t=111
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: kevplumb on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
my two penneth worth!
I think you are all missing a point here
what you know and what you can prove are different animals !!
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
my two penneth worth!
I think you are all missing a point here
what you know and what you can prove are different animals !!

If a month ago you had said a Brexit Party Councilor was just a drug-dealing violent football thug you would have got even louder protest about 'prove it'. The pigs head claim would have been a bit much even for me!

I remember when UKIP first came to the Forum and their Councillor's post showed they were at least  twice as openly racist as we had  previously believed.

Ah the good old days when this sort of thing was able to be so easily dismissed as fantasy.........................
Title: Re: Prove it
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 07: AM
If you have real evidence of racism anywhere other than Chinese whispers- grow some balls and report it to the police

If you have no EVIDENCE that would stand up in court- shut up.

I am sure Shane (who has the evidence) will do the right thing (make sure he has enough votes to stay in control)

For the record this latest transgression happened just a week after Mincher was outed.

Sad really, that someone who gave us  'Loneliness Of The long Distance Runner' and 'Taste of Honey' has a dark side. 
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
I'm sure this latest embarrassment will be local news, maybe regional news and possibly make its way into the national media on the back of Minchers behaviour.

But please continue to blame ME for the overtly racist views of some of the Brexit party.

It'll be for the police to decide whether it's a hate speech. I'd say it probably ISN'T in the strict definition of the term.

However, is it something you'd expect a sitting councillor to express publicly . . . Nope.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: kevplumb on January 02, 2020, 02: PM
my two penneth worth!
I think you are all missing a point here
what you know and what you can prove are different animals !!

Exactly hence my request he report it to police...but just like last time he won't .....= attention seeking clickbait.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
I'm sure this latest embarrassment will be local news, maybe regional news and possibly make its way into the national media on the back of Minchers behaviour.

But please continue to blame ME for the overtly racist views of some of the Brexit party.

It'll be for the police to decide whether it's a hate speech. I'd say it probably ISN'T in the strict definition of the term.

However, is it something you'd expect a sitting councillor to express publicly . . . Nope.
Erm,,,, who's blaming you? I see no evidence to support that claim you just made....
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
It'll be for the police to decide whether it's a hate speech. I'd say it probably ISN'T in the strict definition of the term.

midships the wheel.......full astern both engines....... :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
= attention seeking clickbait.

Forums thrive on such.
No traffic no forum.

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM




However, is it something you'd expect a sitting councillor to express publicly . . . Nope.
It is not something you expect any decent person to publicly support. The fact he felt the need (or safe enough)  to publicly  show he shared the sentiment is disturbing. He is proud of his views.
I liked Bernard Manning and found him very funny but his 'dog born in a stable is not a horse'  joke was not funny. He should have stopped using that one.

You should always try and step outside yourself every now and again and think about how other people might see things. This is a very famous Christmas song in the UK but see here how a foreigner reacts to words we just accept as part of the Christmas tradition:

https://youtu.be/Tb3pXB8pMig?t=165



Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Well, personally I haven't a clue what denouement is in the wings ... although no doubt we mere mortals will be expected to be dutifully impressed/shocked by whatever revelations may materialise.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Johnny Bongo on January 02, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
I'm sure this latest embarrassment will be local news, maybe regional news and possibly make its way into the national media on the back of Minchers behaviour.

But please continue to blame ME for the overtly racist views of some of the Brexit party.

It'll be for the police to decide whether it's a hate speech. I'd say it probably ISN'T in the strict definition of the term.


So, let's say IF it isn't a hate speech in the strict definition of the term, then it's just someone expressing their views, albeit distasteful to some! It is FREE speech, which the libs haven't managed to quell yet! IF on the other hand, it is deemed hate speech, then he should face the consequences of the Law. 






 
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 02, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 03: PM
I'm sure this latest embarrassment will be local news, maybe regional news and possibly make its way into the national media on the back of Minchers behaviour.
It won't be for the lack of trying on your part eh?

But please continue to blame ME for the overtly racist views of some of the Brexit party.
If you insist, but to be fair you're the one who keeps diggin* up the corpse to question it. ::)

It'll be for the police to decide whether it's a hate speech. I'd say it probably ISN'T in the strict definition of the term.
So it's not then....? Whatever it is.
However, is it something you'd expect a sitting councillor to express publicly . . . Nope.
But if they didn't, you'd have nothing to be permanently outraged about
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Well, personally I haven't a clue what denouement is in the wings ... although no doubt we mere mortals will be expected to be dutifully impressed/shocked by whatever revelations may materialise.

Its the curse of Facebook. Be careful what you link to..................
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Well, personally I haven't a clue what denouement is in the wings ... although no doubt we mere mortals will be expected to be dutifully impressed/shocked by whatever revelations may materialise.

Its the curse of Facebook. Be careful what you link to..................

Is that some form of a threat?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 08: PM
Getting back to the point, these things usually pan out as follows.

Councillor says or does something stupid potentially worthy of complaint.

Opponents of said councillor complain and/or inform the media.

Chief Solicitor investigates the complaint and if it's impossible to sweep it under the rug, makes a ruling.

Party leader of the offending councillor either tries to play down the 'offence' and stands by their man, or SUPPORTS the complaint usually in an attempt to put some distance between themselves and the councillor.

If you could say one 'good' thing about CAB, he always sided with his councillors until it became absolutely impossible to support their baffoonery. (Except when it came to supporting Stephen and Cranney of course, when on such occasions even baffoonery was tolerated).

My guess with this one would be Shame will side WITH the councillors who complain
against the perceived racism.

To do anything OTHER than that would look like he was condoning it. Which I don't believe he would.









Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 09: PM
I will keep this simple- who cares, I mean really who cares? Perceived racism? I guess it is school holidays so someone is missing the attention?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 10: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 02, 2020, 09: PM
I will keep this simple......

I tried.
I made it into one of those old comic 'Spot The Clue' strips.
I gave away:
1)the name of the offender
2)the nature of the offence
3)a tamer example of the offence

If I were to link the the problem it would be instantly removed as extremely offensive.


Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 02, 2020, 08: PM
Getting back to the point, these things usually pan out as follows.

Councillor says or does something stupid potentially worthy of complaint.

Opponents of said councillor complain and/or inform the media.

Chief Solicitor investigates the complaint and if it's impossible to sweep it under the rug, makes a ruling.

Party leader of the offending councillor either tries to play down the 'offence' and stands by their man, or SUPPORTS the complaint usually in an attempt to put some distance between themselves and the councillor.

If you could say one 'good' thing about CAB, he always sided with his councillors until it became absolutely impossible to support their baffoonery. (Except when it came to supporting Stephen and Cranney of course, when on such occasions even baffoonery was tolerated).

My guess with this one would be Shame will side WITH the councillors who complain
against the perceived racism.

To do anything OTHER than that would look like he was condoning it. Which I don't believe he would.
You've told us nothing that we don't know, as regards procedure, so your point is?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
I've told you Shane will side with the people making the complaint.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
I've told you Shane will side with the people making the complaint.

Again who cares- a convicted drunk driver ( IMO Drunk Driver is the same as someone running around the streets on drugs with a loaded shot gun= should get 5-10 years.... but that's another discussion) leading a team of lemmings who jump from party to party......with a "member " who might have said something ...perceived....

Nobody gives a toss about Shame and the other tossers - their time will come when the next local elections occur. If nothing changes ( same as during general election) then the sheeple will get what they deserve and the town will simply be a boil on the a*r**o** of England.

Stick to your day job you wouldn't last five minutes in a corporate, legal or media environment - you would be eviscerated for peddling "non news".
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 02, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 02, 2020, 04: PM
Well, personally I haven't a clue what denouement is in the wings ... although no doubt we mere mortals will be expected to be dutifully impressed/shocked by whatever revelations may materialise.

Its the curse of Facebook. Be careful what you link to..................

Is that some form of a threat?

Mmmm sharp intake of breath and no response  ;)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: fred c on January 03, 2020, 09: AM
A sitting councillor screen shot a shared post from another sitting councillors fb page.....An official complaint was made.....The post was meant to be a 'joke' albeit in extremely poor taste.

And before a tirade of abuse is thrown my way......No I didn't think it was remotely funny.




Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 03, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 03, 2020, 07: AM
I've told you Shane will side with the people making the complaint.
And.....?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: admin on January 03, 2020, 04: PM
The punchline will help you work out what exactly was being compared to  a dog.

Admin note: post edited as it contained offensive material
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 07: AM

Mmmm sharp intake of breath and no response  ;)

Awwww..............someone shot your fox.

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: admin on January 03, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 04: PM
The punchline will help you work out what exactly was being compared to  a dog.



Its not really a joke anyway. It is a rant reworked to make it seem like a joke. 

Admin note: post edited/deletions made as contained offensive material
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 05: PM
Even though I removed the most blatant racist bits its still too bad to publish. This is how Brexit Party Councillors talk among themselves. It destroys any claim they are in any way different from UKIP.
Its like the way the Windscale name became toxic when it came close to melting down in 1957 and turning Northern England a wasteland . They renamed it Sellafield but it is still, like The Brexit Party, polluting the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: admin on January 03, 2020, 05: PM
Any attempt to post offensive material will result in the member - whoever they are - going on pre-mod until admins. can trust them. End of.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Ok I give in I am lost.....
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Ok I give in I am lost.....

A member shared the basic gist of the social media which is causing the furor. It was so offensive that we couldn't leave it on here - even by way of explanation. We don't want it on here, hence the request that nobody reposts it. I will explain further via email/pm should you want to know more.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 03, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Ok I give in I am lost.....

A member shared the basic gist of the social media which is causing the furor. It was so offensive that we couldn't leave it on here - even by way of explanation. We don't want it on here, hence the request that nobody reposts it. I will explain further via email/pm should you want to know more.

The clarification is appreciated. I was a little confused myself about it!
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 07: PM
Lets not get confused here. The problem is the 'joke' It illustrates the way these people communicate with each other in their safe spaces'.  They deny their driving force is deeply offensive racism and when challenged they and their cyphers shout 'prove it'. Proof enough now.   The small band of Hartlepool Brexit Councillors has been shown to be  deeply and openly racist. The 'Hartlepool Against Racism' Facebook page has more info on this matter.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Ok I give in I am lost.....

https://youtu.be/gsC4kf6x_Q0?t=230
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 06: PM
Ok I give in I am lost.....

https://youtu.be/gsC4kf6x_Q0?t=230

Just wasted 30 seconds....another one of mk1s irrelevant videos = duelling banjos. Don't bother...i should have known better.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
..i should have known better............

with a girl like you?

https://youtu.be/rp63A_-0XUU?t=12
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 03, 2020, 09: PM
..i should have known better............

with a girl like you?

https://youtu.be/rp63A_-0XUU?t=12

If we're into 60s stuff, then let the 'love in' commence ... or maybe not ...
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 03, 2020, 10: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 03, 2020, 09: PM


If we're into 60s stuff, then let the 'love in' commence ... or maybe not ...

'Into it? I lived through it .....and can still (just)  remember it!

'I should Have Known Better' is from 'A Hard Days Night' and 1964 so a bit before Flower Power and the Summer of Love.  'Sgt Peppers/Magical Mystery Tour'  is  from '67 when the Beatles became Hippies.
No racism for Bob & Marcia and she is staring straight at me............oh those eyes.......

https://youtu.be/ubDVUQon5BE?t=69
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 06, 2020, 10: AM
Looks like someone has done a bit of a trawl through the social media history of the councillor in question. There seems to be an abundance of Islamophobic posts on his facebook. I'll give it a month, 2 months tops before Shame's back in the Tory Party.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 06, 2020, 02: PM
As I keep saying who cares- come the local elections he will pay the price - then again anyone can get elected as a "member" in Hartlepool.....

Well almost anyone ;)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 06, 2020, 10: AM
Looks like someone has done a bit of a trawl through the social media history of the councillor in question.
I wonder who that could have been?
There seems to be an abundance of Islamophobic posts on his facebook.
How could you know without having read them?
I'll give it a month, 2 months tops before Shame's back in the Tory Party.
Let's guess what Party you'll be in eh?
Local elections are due and I'd imagine Labour having lost the war have decided to push for the council seats at any cost. Repetition of a message seems to be a popular option, as long as you have the brains to realise what's exciting election winning news to a clique of political nerds, doesn't have quite the same effect on the general public.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: fred c on January 06, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 06, 2020, 10: AM
Looks like someone has done a bit of a trawl through the social media history of the councillor in question. There seems to be an abundance of Islamophobic posts on his facebook. I'll give it a month, 2 months tops before Shame's back in the Tory Party.

Someone needs to get out more and someone else needs stop behaving like a Grimsby Fishwife, we all know what's behind these latest, soon to appear revelations, the labmob and its Propaganda Ministry are desperate to regain control of the council.

Tittle Tattling the party's return to 'Power' on the back of social media rumour and innuendo really shows what the electorate can expect in the coming months from the Pixies.


Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 06, 2020, 05: PM
Again who cares - there a few has beens who have no chance of getting back in.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: fred c on January 06, 2020, 05: PM
Tittle Tattling the party's return to 'Power' on the back of social media rumour and innuendo................

There has always been 'rumour and innuendo' about dark forces within The Brexit Party. The difference now is we have evidence to back the accusations.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
 
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 04: PM
I wonder who that could have been?
Tweren't me Sherlock. If it was I would have said so and  kept the info that went with it. Certainly not on the pairs public Facebook pages and given the photo I thinks its from a third party. There are other 'rumours' about them flying about but I know David has declined to repeat them as he can not confirm.
Try again............................


Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 04: PM
How could you know without having read them?

Is it a multi-choice option?

A.  He is making it all up and stands to be discredited when nothing appears.

B.  He has seen them.


Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 06, 2020, 05: PM
Again who cares - there a few has beens who have no chance of getting back in.

I wouldn't be so sure. The local electorate don't exactly fill me with confidence when it comes to choosing quality leadership...
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: kevplumb on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
nail on the head methinks  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 04: PM
I wonder who that could have been?
Tweren't me Sherlock.I never thought it was you. If it was I would have said so and  kept the info that went with it. Certainly not on the pairs public Facebook pages and given the photo I thinks its from a third party. There are other 'rumours' about them flying about but I know David has declined to repeat them as he can not confirm. Rumours, rumours everywhere.
Try again............................No need to.


Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 04: PM
How could you know without having read them?

Is it a multi-choice option?
You tell me.
A.  He is making it all up and stands to be discredited when nothing appears.
Yaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn.
B.  He has seen them.It just gets better and better.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: fred c on January 06, 2020, 05: PM
Tittle Tattling the party's return to 'Power' on the back of social media rumour and innuendo................

There has always been 'rumour and innuendo' about dark forces within The Brexit Party. The difference now is we have evidence to back the accusations.
Ah 'We have evidence'..... ;D  isn't that like saying we've got the 'evidence' on Genghis Khan. Like the Brexit Party, he's history. But if you're so obsessively preoccupied to such a troubling extent you think it's important, crack on.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 08: PM


we've got the 'evidence' on Genghis Khan.

and I have a video.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5tMM9V1S8
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 06, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 06, 2020, 07: PM
rumours everywhere.........

............ over at Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Fdm3-dnr0&list=PLWzsplzTwBLhSAUqNw2ZL-ukGLAuVCSnH


Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
I think basically what's been clearly established is there was MK1 and i adamant there were significant slice of gammon in the local brexit party. People cried foul and yelled "prove it".

Since then channel 4 have outed one of them as being as blatant a racist as you'll find an another has exposed himself as having very similar views.

Personally i quite like a bit of Sinatra on occasions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V-d8Z1mouk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V-d8Z1mouk)

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
So why the delay kicking out the latest offender ?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
probably cos nobody cares about them worrying about brexit party is akin to worrying about y2k virus...

and either there is evidence of this behaviour and those that have it are too gutless to report it officially to police or

there is no evidence

a none event.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 01: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
I think basically what's been clearly established is there was MK1 and i adamant there were significant slice of gammon in the local brexit party. People cried foul and yelled "prove it".
Love your use of the word 'gammon', the petulantly outraged go to word of contempt....... unable to find words to express what they are, you resort to the insult.

Since then channel 4 have outed one of them as being as blatant a racist as you'll find an another has exposed himself as having very similar views.

What are you going to do when you run out of comic opera racists? Are you going to drag this out till election time?.... you truly are a politician. We can see what they are, we don't need you popping up like a faulty jack in the box to 'enlighten' us. Jeez.
As for Sinatra ...'They all Laughed' correct, we still are. You're like someone who has rearranged the back kitchen draws so that the tea towels are now in the bottom draw instead of the top, bursting to keep telling the world of your smartness at doing this you fail to grasp no one gives a monkeys'.



Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
probably cos nobody cares about them worrying about brexit party is akin to worrying about y2k virus...

and either there is evidence of this behaviour and those that have it are too gutless to report it officially to police or

there is no evidence

a none event.

A) The millennium bug wasn't fixed in all cases, it was mitigated and the issue was put off in some cases raising it's head this year.
     Crazy but true.

B) I have seen screen grabs of a Brexit Councillor sharing strongly racist material.
    It was expected to be picked up by Shane and The Mail already.
    I have no idea why there has been a delay.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
So why the delay kicking out the latest offender ?
Votes in chamber. Everything is as simple as that. The SCAB Group have become more influential with every outing.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 03: PM

    I have no idea why there has been a delay..........
The chants of 'old news', 'nothing to see here', 'steps have been taken to prevent this happening again' show how desperate certain people are to not face reality.

The problem is serious and these people are a clear danger.
If ignored we will see more of this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-51022706

The far right terrorists  are a significant problem in the UK.

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 03: PM
Quoteyou fail to grasp no one gives a monkeys'.

Given the increasing frenzy of your multiple posts claiming you don't care I think we know who has 'given the monkey'.
By the way should you not be posting using green 'ink' like all your letters to The Daily Mail............
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 01: PM

Love your use of the word 'gammon', the petulantly outraged go to word of contempt....... unable to find words to express what they are, you resort to the insult.

Whats wrong with the word gammon?
Is the outrage because Garry Glitter used it in one of his songs?

https://youtu.be/XxfSlIS55mk?t=14


'Do you wanna be in my gang,  gammom gammon, gammon gammon,     gammon....................


Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 03: PM

The millennium bug wasn't fixed in all cases, it was mitigated and the issue was put off in some cases raising it's head this year.
     Crazy but true.

You can't reason with someone  who thinks everything is a vast left-wing conspiracy to remove all our cherished old customs like sending 6 year-olds up chimneys-elf & safety has ruined everyfink innit

    I don't suppose a Corbynist Trotskyite Stalinist left -wing rag like New Scientist will have any effect of the cavemen but here goes:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2229238-a-lazy-fix-20-years-ago-means-the-y2k-bug-is-taking-down-computers-now/

Next they will be claiming Climate Change is real...................
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: The Great Dictator on January 07, 2020, 06: PM



   Will somebody please tell me what a GAMMON is ?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 07, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: The Great Dictator on January 07, 2020, 06: PM



   Will somebody please tell me what a GAMMON is ?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 03: PM
Quoteyou fail to grasp no one gives a monkeys'.

Given the increasing frenzy of your multiple posts claiming you don't care I think we know who has 'given the monkey'.
By the way should you not be posting using green 'ink' like all your letters to The Daily Mail............
'increasing frenzy of your multiple posts'...oh dear. This from someone who has  just posted five consecutive posts on God knows what.
We all know your game, it'll carry on till May.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 01: PM

Love your use of the word 'gammon', the petulantly outraged go to word of contempt....... unable to find words to express what they are, you resort to the insult.

Whats wrong with the word gammon?
Is the outrage because Garry Glitter used it in one of his songs?

https://youtu.be/XxfSlIS55mk?t=14


'Do you wanna be in my gang,  gammom gammon, gammon gammon,     gammon....................
You David's spokesperson now?
As for 'Glitter',  I'll bow to your greater in depth knowledge of his history.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 07: PM

We all know your game, it'll carry on till May.


As I keep telling you I don't care, I don't care..............

Admin. Note: Post edited  - most distasteful.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 08: PM
Like I said, you'll bang on till May when you get your new orders.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 08, 2020, 12: AM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 07, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 07, 2020, 01: PM

Love your use of the word 'gammon', the petulantly outraged go to word of contempt....... unable to find words to express what they are, you resort to the insult.

Whats wrong with the word gammon?
Is the outrage because Garry Glitter used it in one of his songs?

https://youtu.be/XxfSlIS55mk?t=14


'Do you wanna be in my gang,  gammom gammon, gammon gammon,     gammon....................
You David's spokesperson now?
As for 'Glitter',  I'll bow to your greater in depth knowledge of his history.

Spokesperson,,, or alter...?

I can't be the only person that's considered it, surely.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 08, 2020, 12: AM
Quote from: diSme on January 08, 2020, 12: AM


Spokesperson,,, or alter...?

I can't be the only person that's considered it, surely.


I had Paul's (Gary to you) phone number in those days. Strange thing though, when I called him sometimes Cliff Richard answered.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: kevplumb on January 08, 2020, 06: AM
Quote from: Land Phil on January 07, 2020, 12: PM
So why the delay kicking out the latest offender ?

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/hartlepool-brexit-party-councillor-suspended-over-offensive-facebook-posts-1357939
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 07: AM
Shane who......? Oh the the drunk driver...

Brexit `party.....what????

Some bloke called Tony claiming he doesn't understand facebook or social media......and the Snail considers it news?......No mention of police investigation.....as usual a lack of gonads on the part of certain "members" here.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: fred c on January 08, 2020, 07: AM
Was Corbyn suspended by labour over his faux pas

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/23/corbyn-criticised-after-backing-artist-behind-antisemitic-mural
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 08, 2020, 08: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 07: AM
...as usual a lack of gonads on the part of certain "members" here.

Maybe Cliff will lend us his?

Admin note: link deleted as crude and inappropriate
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 09: AM
Poor Fred trying to defend a racist friend by blaming Labour. :o :-[
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 08, 2020, 10: AM
I don't care for the tone which some members are taking on the Post. And it could almost be thought that some were trying to land the Post in trouble by posting dodgy material.

PS I very much doubt that Fred is trying to defend a 'racist friend'. For starters, I suspect he hardly knows the councillor in question. Oh - and while we're on, Labour does seem to have been playing around on social media. They've attempted to post untruths and cause trouble on the Post's Facebook page (to no avail); demanding that we publish the names of those who're blocked/been declined membership - and why. Not only could this breach DPR (and hence expose the Post to more problems) but would be morally wrong - never mind being a gargantuan task trawling through years of moderation logs.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 02: PM
Maybe i is time to stop focusing on Brexit party They are well passed their sell by date and Shame and co will be out of work soon hopefully...mk1 video......video of farage.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 09: AM
Poor Fred trying to defend a racist friend by blaming Labour. :o :-[
Are you for real? That really is pathetic.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 02: PM
Maybe i is time to stop focusing on Brexit party They are well passed their sell by date and Shame and co will be out of work soon hopefully...mk1 video......video of farage.
Oh they'll bang on about the late deceased Brexit Party till May Elections are over. It's the only weapon in their depleted armoury. They'll bang on and on in the hope Labour win control of the Council.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .   
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 08, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .

Touchy ... the comment was aimed in several directions but you seem to have (incorrectly) claimed it all for your very own. PS I spoke to Fred this morning - confirmed that he & the person in question are NOT friends but simply passing acquaintances, so suggest you get your facts right. The reason that this forum has become a bit of a battleground is that certain factors are trying to use it as a propaganda launch pad. And no, Pensionater, that does NOT mean you so you can take off the cap of martyrdom.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: fred c on January 08, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .


I have no idea where or from whom you are getting your 'facts' but Tony Richardson and myself are not 'friends' as it happens, and this is specifically for your benefit, I exchange pleasantries with Tony 'if and when we bump into each other'.......you know as civilised people tend to do.

As for the forum, bringing into question the impartiality of the Admins is completely out totally out of order.



Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 08, 2020, 05: PM
Quote from: fred c on January 08, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .


I have no idea where or from whom you are getting your 'facts' but Tony Richardson and myself are not 'friends' as it happens, and this is specifically for your benefit, I exchange pleasantries with Tony 'if and when we bump into each other'.......you know as civilised people tend to do.

As for the forum, bringing into question the impartiality of the Admins is completely out totally out of order.

I agree. I for one am pleased to see the admins taking the bull by the horns so to speak.

Ultimately, they are the ones who would be deemed responsible for allowing 'unethical' or even illegal posts to be displayed in a public domain, and I'd be doing the same thing if it was my forum, or if I was in some way responsible for the content posted. It's common sense and logic ...
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .

on any forum slagging off admin is akin to shooting yourself in the foot- the suggestion would be you wind yer neck in...or go elsewhere?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 08, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 08, 2020, 07: PM


on any forum slagging off admin is akin to shooting yourself in the foot- the suggestion would be you wind yer neck in...or go elsewhere?

I saw no 'slagging' It was a simple observation. Your parting remark is telling.  Let those not 'on-message' know they are unwelcome and eventually  they will go elsewhere. Leaving those with the 'correct' views a safe space to vent.

This is what The Hartlepool was set up to do and what it did well  for over a decade:

https://www.facebook.com/HBCXposed/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARBxBX0gG6kOgy-xs9gd-wM6MIAs3kYpliCO6HVMc3uNvG_WjVlNHaYLCsKoe69u5gmIYqQOeGEomZN2









   
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: kevplumb on January 08, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: fred c on January 08, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: pensionater on January 08, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone is still in doubt why this forum is on the way out,look at the so called Admins response to my comment,no one else's,just mine.It's an echo chamber the same as the Facebook page,p.s.i know for a fact Tony and Fred are friends .


I have no idea where or from whom you are getting your 'facts' but Tony Richardson and myself are not 'friends' as it happens, and this is specifically for your benefit, I exchange pleasantries with Tony 'if and when we bump into each other'.......you know as civilised people tend to do.

As for the forum, bringing into question the impartiality of the Admins is completely out totally out of order.

Fred you know me we speak if we see each other, dont think that makes us bosom buddies tho  :D :D ;)  the man is obviously deranged ive yet to see a sensible post out of him
probably the crackpot compositor in disguise  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 09, 2020, 07: AM
Farce book is something I do not waste my time on a succession of he said she said he's wonderful she's wonderful.....

Ranting on about Brexit party serves no further purpose. Brexit is about to happen cue.....oh no its not.

Shane will be history soon enough...and if he isn't then the town gets what it deserves.( Beats me why he is considered by some to be a fit and proper person- a convicted drunk driver - and yes I think all drunk drivers are irrational criminals not worthy of a "second chance")

Other than Brexit nothing has actually changed. We are still getting shafted by a crew of wanna be politician impersonators none of whom are or have been of any value past or present.

ok we don't have mr and mrs revealing their visions on a regular basis but we still have a Bunch of lying clowns in charge of the purse strings.

Sooner HBC is shut down the better.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
QuoteSooner HBC is shut down the better.

That's the most sensible thing you've said on here and something i've been an advocate of for years. Although i'm no Conservative, right now, facing another 10 years + of Tory rule, i'd much rather see Ben Houchen fully sailing the ship than the current rag tag band calling the day to day tune locally.

Most of the day to day stuff can (and is) done by officers anyway. MANY of the people voting on important decisions made by the current administration aren't capable of fully comprehending the importance or complexity of the decision they're making. Trust me i know, i've been in their meetings prior to many of them becoming the current ruling group.

John Tennant was 'the brain', hence why he's now trousering £15k and month in Brussels. There's a lot about Shane i like, but in terms of the transition from Stuart Drummond, to Christopher Akers-Belcher to Shane Moore, the whole situation with HBC over the last decade or so reminds me of this clip from 'wheel of fortune'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRj3skeL5w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRj3skeL5w)




Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
something i've been an advocate of for years.

OMG we agree.......

What we disagree about is Shame an obvious liar and as a proven convicted potential killer drunk driver ( who incidentally plead NG) he is not a fit and proper person to be in charge of anything involving public money/services. If he can not control himself how can he be considered fit and property to run a clowncil?

...and yes I have a bee in my bonnet about drink drivers after watching a young girl die many years ago after being hit by one...
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 09, 2020, 01: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
QuoteSooner HBC is shut down the better.


Most of the day to day stuff can (and is) done by officers anyway. MANY of the people voting on important decisions made by the current administration aren't capable of fully comprehending the importance or complexity of the decision they're making. Trust me i know, i've been in their meetings prior to many of them becoming the current ruling group.


I totally agree. Most councils are run by a select group of Councillors and the others are just there to be told what to vote for.
Sadly, in our case we've been run in exactly the same way for many years by a not so select group of Councillors with the result looking more like monkey tennis than civic responsibility.
I joke, but IQ tests for prospective candidates would help.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 09, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 09, 2020, 12: PM
something i've been an advocate of for years.

OMG we agree.......

What we disagree about is Shame an obvious liar and as a proven convicted potential killer drunk driver ( who incidentally plead NG) he is not a fit and proper person to be in charge of anything involving public money/services. If he can not control himself how can he be considered fit and property to run a clowncil?

...and yes I have a bee in my bonnet about drink drivers after watching a young girl die many years ago after being hit by one...

I'm 100% with you regarding Shane.

How is it that somebody who is proven by law to be irresponsible, placed into a position of huge responsibility, whereby he represents the interests of a whole town...

I'm pretty sure that his conviction would prevent him from doing many day to day jobs where a police check is required, like taxi driving, or caring for people, so how is it he is considered a safe bet to lead our council...

It should be a bigger deal than it currently seems to be, whether his conviction is spent or not.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 09, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: diSme on January 09, 2020, 04: PM
How is it that somebody who is proven by law to be irresponsible

https://www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk/second-drink-driving-conviction-could-cost-councillor-his-job/ (https://www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk/second-drink-driving-conviction-could-cost-councillor-his-job/)

err TWICE and he was  3 times the legal limit....unstable, dangerous and thinks he knows better as he did it twice.....

Oddly required qualities for a role as a clowncil member in Hartlepool.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 16, 2020, 12: PM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/hearing-date-set-suspended-hartlepool-brexit-party-councillor-over-offensive-facebook-post-1365598

Taking place behind closed doors. Presumably to avoid it getting into the wider public domain that the offensive post wasn't just a 'one off' or an 'accidental click of a button'.

Let's hope he has the sense to ask for 'other offences to be taken into consideration'. Imagine how terrible it would look if he claimed it was a mistake and not a real reflection of his views, then later it transpired that he'd liked and shared LOTS of posts of a similar nature.  ???





Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: fred c on January 16, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 16, 2020, 12: PM
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/council/hearing-date-set-suspended-hartlepool-brexit-party-councillor-over-offensive-facebook-post-1365598

Taking place behind closed doors. Presumably to avoid it getting into the wider public domain that the offensive post wasn't just a 'one off' or an 'accidental click of a button'.

Let's hope he has the sense to ask for 'other offences to be taken into consideration'. Imagine how terrible it would look if he claimed it was a mistake and not a real reflection of his views, then later it transpired that he'd liked and shared LOTS of posts of a similar nature.  ???

There is no chance whatsoever of the details of the investigation being kept out of the public domain, 5 minutes after any decision and the LabMob Propaganda Minister will have it plastered all over social media.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 16, 2020, 08: PM
I find it amusing the board has it's own Witchfinder General.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 16, 2020, 08: PM
Or the Witchsmeller Pursuivant?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 16, 2020, 08: PM
Or the Witchsmeller Pursuivant?
Or even Snitchfinder General....?  An 'investigative' nodding dog.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Hartlepudlion on January 17, 2020, 09: AM
Funny that Mr Riddle never mentions the racists in the Labour Party.

Has he never heard of

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 10: AM
Quote from: Hartlepudlion on January 17, 2020, 09: AM
Funny that Mr Riddle never mentions the racists in the Labour Party.

Has he never heard of

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ?
Surely not..... all pure thoughts and noble intentions, unblemished by mere mortal  weakness .....?
Dig and you shall find they say, but if your digging for carrots, you can rebury the turnips you dig up, especially if a turnip is doing the 'digging'.
Selective husbandry ?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 17, 2020, 04: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.

Hard to believe ....are Channel 4 now the approved investigators of allegations of racist acts?

You did not report the recent HBC racism to the police did you?

All talk typical (ex) politician.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.
Really?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 17, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 17, 2020, 04: PM


Hard to believe ....are Channel 4 now the approved investigators of allegations of racist acts?

I remember the old days of 'This Week' and 'World In Action' & 'The Cook Report'. Saw many a program where (for example) a room was for rent or a Job advertised where they sent two people to apply. When the black person was told the job had gone or the room had already been let and a white person applying after them was offered both they were able to prove discrimination. So yes 'Channel 4 (your 'TV') and Newspapers have long been an effective tool for investigating allegations.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 17, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.
Really?

Here we go ... anyone can now join in and cut out the middle man ... https://www.channel4.com/news/contact-us/investigations-team
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 17, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.
Really?

Here we go ... anyone can now join in and cut out the middle man ... https://www.channel4.com/news/contact-us/investigations-team
I'm going to contact Pitchforks and Burning Torch Investigations plc
13 Stasi Mews,
Inquisition Business Park,
Sanctimonious on Sea.
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 17, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 08: PM
Quote from: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 17, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on January 17, 2020, 06: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 03: PM
If anyone has any knowledge of a Labour Councillor talking about how he tried to bury a pigs head under a mosque, or comparing certain immigrant groups to dogs i'll happily tip off channel 4 for them.
Really?

Here we go ... anyone can now join in and cut out the middle man ... https://www.channel4.com/news/contact-us/investigations-team
I'm going to contact Pitchforks and Burning Torch Investigations plc
13 Stasi Mews,
Inquisition Business Park,
Sanctimonious on Sea.


Incorporation inspired by 'Young Frankenstein'? ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buvSIrFi0Hw
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: diSme on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 17, 2020, 07: PM
Quote from: akarjl2 on January 17, 2020, 04: PM


Hard to believe ....are Channel 4 now the approved investigators of allegations of racist acts?

I remember the old days of 'This Week' and 'World In Action' & 'The Cook Report'. Saw many a program where (for example) a room was for rent or a Job advertised where they sent two people to apply. When the black person was told the job had gone or the room had already been let and a white person applying after them was offered both they were able to prove discrimination. So yes 'Channel 4 (your 'TV') and Newspapers have long been an effective tool for investigating allegations.

So if it's on telly (even years ago) it must be true?!

Sorry, but I thought you were a little more intelligent than that...
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
Quote from: diSme on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
Sorry, but I thought you were a little more intelligent than that...

seriously?   ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: mk1 on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
It is impossible to reply properly when posts that don't fit the  mindset are deleted. Teacher has intervened to protect her pupils  being contradicted 
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
QuoteYou did not report the recent HBC racism to the police did you?

All talk typical (ex) politician

I imagine somebody probably did. As I said at the time, I'm not an expert on hate crime laws, but I imagine the police would at least want to look into whether what was done was illegal.

My hunch would be the police are at least looking into it.

Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Lucy Lass-Tick on January 17, 2020, 10: PM
Quote from: mk1 on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
It is impossible to reply properly when posts that don't fit the  mindset are deleted. Teacher has intervened to protect her pupils  being contradicted

Anyone who's on pre mod is on it for a reason. Usually that we're trying to keep the forum out of trouble (or there's repetition). I'm not (and never have been) a member of a national party - in fact, I consider national party politics irrelevant on a local government level. And I'm going to be totally frank - as an admin I'm currently dealing with serious family illness, so my time is limited (as is my patience).
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on January 18, 2020, 07: AM
Quote from: mk1 on January 17, 2020, 09: PM
It is impossible to reply properly when posts that don't fit the  mindset are deleted. Teacher has intervened to protect her pupils  being contradicted
The  mindset in question being yours I assume. ::)
As for 'pupils' being contradicted, the only class disruptor would appear to be you, so exclusion being the only option.
Giving you 500 lines may have been an option, but I suspect whatever text was given would be ignored and return as .....' I am the divine arbiter of everything on earth or in heaven, kneel before me'?
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: DRiddle on February 29, 2020, 12: PM
QuoteQuote
You did not report the recent HBC racism to the police did you?

All talk typical (ex) politician


I imagine somebody probably did. As I said at the time, I'm not an expert on hate crime laws, but I imagine the police would at least want to look into whether what was done was illegal.

My hunch would be the police are at least looking into it.

But then what do I know . . . ? Foggy crystal ball, dodgy predictions etc. etc.  ::)
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: akarjl2 on February 29, 2020, 01: PM
Quote from: DRiddle on February 29, 2020, 12: PM

But then what do I know?

You are not the first person to ask that..........
Title: Re: Putting Hartlepool on the map..................
Post by: Inspector Knacker on March 01, 2020, 03: PM
He knows EVERYTHING. G.C.H.Q. are never off the line to him.
He's launching his own spy satellites called 'Verging' ...verging on the tedious.