Last gasp of a dying Party.....

Started by mk1, November 17, 2019, 03: PM

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Inspector Knacker

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Quote from: DRiddle on November 19, 2019, 08: AM
Again, there's those double standards. You WON'T reveal your reasons for voting for brexit, but you EXPECT me to willingly reveal my voting intentions at your request?
Ah, so you're still using the old  'double standard' deflection technique. ::)

You say I won't reveal my reasons for voting Brexit. So, logically therefore you know I'm voting brexit. So you do have information from me about my voting intentions!
Then you want me to tell you my reasons, so you then know everything.
YET, YOU GIVE NOTHING AWAY ABOUT YOURSELF. ::) ::) ::) ::)
All you're doing is fishing for the much craved racist xenophobe on the board that appears not to exist. Must be disappointing for you, so put the burning torches, pitchforks etc on standby for now.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

mk1

Quote from: akarjl2 on November 18, 2019, 08: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on November 18, 2019, 03: PM
The only alternative then is 'Dynamic Mike'....!!!!!!!! Surely not.

= equivalent of voting for Monster Raving Loony party.

I am afraid Farage has assumed that mantle. Only a few months ago he was  claiming 'he' was the new force in  politics and he was going to sweep to power 'at the next election'. His acolytes here were in rapture over the Euro Election results  and  boasted they were going to replace Labour as the opposition. Turns out they were wrong. Farage is a political incompetent and he first threatened Boris and when it did not work he  completely caved in and gave away all his bargaining power without getting anything in return. This is the man who says he could negotiate with The EU when it turns out he is a total confrontation-avoiding coward who dare not even stand for Westminster (his 6 previous defeats must weigh on his mind) and was scared to death by the way his Party has sunk in the polls. The Brexit Party is shattered. It is finished so even if Hartlepool upholds its tradition of electing extremist candidates a Brexit MP will be completely isolated and of no use to the town at all.

Topcat

It's worth noting that Hartlepool currently has ten Brexit Party councillors and none of them were elected under the Brexit party banner.I can't help but wonder which flag they will jump to if the Brexit candidate fails to become Hartlepool's MP.

mk1

Quote from: Topcat on November 19, 2019, 11: AM
It's worth noting that Hartlepool currently has ten Brexit Party councillors and none of them were elected under the Brexit party banner.I can't help but wonder which flag they will jump to if the Brexit candidate fails to become Hartlepool's MP.

Shane will certainly rejoin the Conservatives. It is just a question of how long he thinks he needs to wait without it being seen as blatant political positioning.  He needs an excuse (no matter how flimsy) to try and defend himself and I predict it will be  bollocks along the line 'Boris adopted the Brexit Party position so  our work is done'.

Politicians have no shame.

Johnny Bongo

Quote from: mk1 on November 19, 2019, 10: AM
Quote from: akarjl2 on November 18, 2019, 08: PM
Quote from: Inspector Knacker on November 18, 2019, 03: PM
The only alternative then is 'Dynamic Mike'....!!!!!!!! Surely not.

= equivalent of voting for Monster Raving Loony party.

The Brexit Party is shattered. It is finished so even if Hartlepool upholds its tradition of electing extremist candidates a Brexit MP will be completely isolated and of no use to the town at all.

Just to clarify, Mk1....the way that the sentence reads, are you saying that, in your opinion, the Brexit party are extremists.  If so, why?

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on November 19, 2019, 10: AM
if Hartlepool upholds its tradition of electing extremist candidates
Name one extremist candidate we've elected as MP.
This should be fun :'(
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

DRiddle

He doesn't say MP. He obviously means some of the local councillors people have elected lately. Pay attention.

akarjl2

Quote from: akarjl2 on November 18, 2019, 02: PM
So assuming Boris gets in and we Brexit asap....but out of shear frustration and lack of other viable options we end up with a Brexit party MP what EXACTLY will he be doing as a Brexit Party MP when we have Brexitted?

I guess Hubris as in Brexit party supporter can not answer above question?
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

akarjl2

Quote from: DRiddle on November 19, 2019, 01: PM
He doesn't say MP. He obviously means some of the local councillors people have elected lately. Pay attention.

mmmm yes please do...what he said was...

Quote from: mk1 on November 19, 2019, 10: AM
........even if Hartlepool upholds its tradition of electing extremist candidates a Brexit MP will be completely isolated and of no use to the town at all.

It could be argued
Mandy is an extremist who has no idea about life in Hartlepool
Wrighty= attention seeking career builder who lost the plot over the Hartlepool Hospital fiasco
Mike Hunt Hill = who? Anyone ever had anything positive from him?

All of them labour aka Socialist extremists.....don't get me wrong I do not support any of the local/national candidates,
as MK1 stated politicians have no Shane oops shame.....
The Morons seemed to have gone but so have the normals.....

Inspector Knacker

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Quote from: DRiddle on November 19, 2019, 01: PM
He doesn't say MP. He obviously means some of the local councillors people have elected lately. Pay attention.
I never said he did, but that's what we're electing. Mk1's definition of an 'extremist' is anyone who doesn't share his view, hardly a good guide. ::)
As for 'pay attention', don't be so patronising Mr Chips.
Oh, by the way I see you avoided my awkward question earlier, don't worry though I'll keep reminding you.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

DRiddle

What was you're question again? I probably barely read it when I saw your name attached to it.

mk1

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Quote from: Inspector Knacker on November 19, 2019, 01: PM
Quote from: mk1 on November 19, 2019, 10: AM
if Hartlepool upholds its tradition of electing extremist candidates
Name one extremist candidate we've elected as MP.
This should be fun

It is,.............for me.
I never linked to a GE candidate so my charge-that Hartlepool elects disgusting far-right candidates-is correct.   Check the  gaffes by the early UKIP Councillors whilst we are talking about extreme right-wing views. . They held very strong (and unfavourable) views about a lot of minorities. Do you want me to post the letter of complaint a certain UKIP Official made (in the Hartlepool Mail?) about 'dem der darkies' getting Council Grants for their Community Centre?

mk1

#27
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on November 19, 2019, 12: PM


Just to clarify, Mk1....the way that the sentence reads, are you saying that, in your opinion, the Brexit party are extremists.  If so, why?

They want a Hard No Deal Brexit. That is an extreme position. There are opinion polls showing a large number of 'Leavers' are quite prepared to see the back of NI, Scotland and Wales over this issue.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: DRiddle on November 19, 2019, 02: PM
What was you're question again? I probably barely read it when I saw your name attached to it.
Er, it was the question you DID read...... but can't answer.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.

Inspector Knacker

Quote from: mk1 on November 19, 2019, 03: PM
Quote from: Johnny Bongo on November 19, 2019, 12: PM


Just to clarify, Mk1....the way that the sentence reads, are you saying that, in your opinion, the Brexit party are extremists.  If so, why?

They want a Hard No Deal Brexit. That is an extreme position. There are opinion polls showing a large number of 'Leavers' are quite prepared to see the back of NI, Scotland and Wales over this issue.
That is an extreme position in your opinion.
What can be asserted without proof,
can be dismissed without proof.