Interesting Pictures

mk1 · April 20, 2015, 02: PM

Quote from: Lord Elpus on April 20, 2015, 01: PM

Not sure where McLean, Bugress and Philby come into this but the more the merrier.

I am sure I saw Harry Lime darting into the end of Newburn sewer at the weekend....................

https://youtu.be/OntXTE8Kyq0

Note Ferris Wheel and German film poster!

Lord Elpus · April 20, 2015, 02: PM

I took the dogs there (Newburn Bridge Car Park) after lunch for a walk along the beach, no sign of any fifth columnists.

But I did see a shifty looking geezer carrying a load of UKIP leaflets, he was standing by the shore up to his knees in water commanding the tide to turn.

mk1 · April 20, 2015, 04: PM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 20, 2015, 12: PM

It is ironic is it not the labour councillors have been called Comrades and the civic is still red brick and called the kremlin, and Ed Milliband is a Marxist...........................

it will never cease to amaze me why the Labour party in the council chamber are called on occasion Comrades Ed Milliband is a Marxist...........................

look at Hartlepool a Labour stronghold many streets in Manor ward are of Scottish origin, the civic centre is red brick locally known as the kremlin, Ed Milliband is a Marxist

Are we meant to take that seriously?
Your brain is stuck in a 1950's cold war time warp where there were hordes of 'reds under the bed'

Take the silly idiotic juvenile and pathetic line of reasoning shown here:
Hartlepool a Labour stronghold many streets in Manor ward are of Scottish origin

This stems from your desperate attempts to portray the Scots as 'taking over' Labour and making the English Branch name their streets with Scottish names. Leave aside that street names tend to be grouped by a theme (Wordsworth & Tennyson, Baden and Colenso etc) the 'Scottish' streets were built at a time (1950s)when the Unionist Party (read Conservative) was really strong in Scotland. They had 50% of the vote in 1955 and were the main party in 1951, 1955 & 1959. You are clearly someone who has no idea of the history of the country and you are not alone. I have lost count of the times a UKIP stalwart has posted his distorted version of history.
A classic was when one of your local party officials posted that it was only when Churchill became Prime Minister in 1939 that war was declared on Hitler and the recent claim the NHS was created by a 'wartime' Tory Government.
All you do is parade your own ignorance and this is why you are under strict instructions from head office not to post on sites like this. Nigel knows the rank & file are not going to make a good impression and is desperate to keep a lid on them at least until he gets his seat in the Lords.

Note how you keep banging on about Ed. All you do is make an ar*se of yourself as you desperately try and link Ed with the epithet used by the gutter right-wing press as they franticaly try and reverse the Tory (and UKIP) decline in the Polls. For all the insults heaped on Milliband it has not impacted on their polling. If it stays as it is now Labour (that means the left to you)will be in the driving seat.
Get used to the taste of defeat!

DRiddle · April 20, 2015, 05: PM

It's an interesting kind of Marxist that went to Oxford, then the London School of Economics before finally polishing up his education at Harvard. All the while knowing he was pretty much set for life after been bequeathed half of a multi million pound house in London. That obviously combined with a career as a professional politician who has been attached to the Labour Party 'movers and shakers' since his early 20s.

Maybe one day the revolution will come . . . Maybe on day capitalism will be overthrown . . . I just don't see the key player in that revolution coming from Primrose Hill.

mk1 · April 20, 2015, 06: PM

Quote from: DRiddle on April 20, 2015, 05: PM
It's an interesting kind of Marxist that went to Oxford, then the London School of Economics before finally polishing up his education at Harvard. All the while knowing he was pretty much set for life after been bequeathed half of a multi million pound house in London. That obviously combined with a career as a professional politician who has been attached to the Labour Party 'movers and shakers' since his early 20s.

Maybe one day the revolution will come . . . Maybe on day capitalism will be overthrown . . . I just don't see the key player in that revolution coming from Primrose Hill.

You flatter him if you believe he knows anything more than that he saw briefly in a newspaper as he downed his chips. I dare say Beanz knows very little about Ed and all he is doing is latching on to the Daily Mail's attempt to traduce (look it up kippers!)his father and thus transfer 'guilt by association' to the son.
This is a continuation of the Daily Mail's muck-raking on Ed's father and the reporters turning up at his uncle's funeral

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/03/mail-on-sunday-gatecrashes-miliband-memorial-ed

At one point the reporter held the hand of one of the grieving relatives and then twice asked her to comment on Ralph Miliband, the source said. The relative refused to do so.

in order to generate more muck for brain-dead right-whingers to parrot blindly on sites like this.

Given that UKIP is awash with ex BNP members it is a risky road for UKIP to follow. Indeed any party that has an official (in Hartlepool) that was a member of several extreme far right violent groups in the 1960-70's and a member of one small group when several other members were jailed for fire bombing synagogues is sailing close to the wind itself.

beanzontoast · April 20, 2015, 07: PM

So then its official, its, all a fabrication, it's all the daily mails fault and of course anyone who doesn't belong to their club, there is of course no truth to a socialist utopia that li soon runs out of other peoples money

mk1 · April 20, 2015, 07: PM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 20, 2015, 07: PM
So then its official, its, all a fabrication, it's all the daily mails fault and of course anyone who doesn't belong to their club, there is of course no truth to a socialist utopia that li soon runs out of other peoples money

Looney tune time..........

beanzontoast · April 21, 2015, 08: AM

I beg to differ im not stuck in any timewarp the 1950s or any other im just very interested in history, and to a certain extent symbolism, all football teams for instance have colours, badges, the military the same, I think you get the picture, my reference to the civic in red brick and the kremlin, councillors calling other councillors Comrade,and many of the streets in Manor have a distinctive scottish ring to them, when you couple that with Red Ed Milliband, and the song the red flag at labour conferences, it is reasonable to assume from a person interested in history point of view the ideology of said group has a leaning towards communism . I have attempted to base all my comments in a historical vien and not be antagonistic to any group or person. The problem would seem to be some get very upset at any form of association with historical or symbolic affiliation.

Lucy Lass-Tick · April 21, 2015, 08: AM

Oh dear - are we to expect a treatise on sympathetic magic next?

beanzontoast · April 21, 2015, 10: AM

Actually Lucy that is a very interesting subject from a historical view of course, it is interesting to know where the universal custom of men shaking hands is all about, and as for sympathetic magic you are surrounded by it and use it every day you just don't know it, of course I'm not sure about the word magic I use it here as your reference point.

Lucy Lass-Tick · April 21, 2015, 10: AM

Erm - would Professor Ronald Hutton would recognise your description?

mk1 · April 21, 2015, 01: PM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 21, 2015, 08: AM
my reference to the civic in red brick and the kremlin, councillors calling other councillors Comrade,and many of the streets in Manor have a distinctive scottish ring to them, when you couple that with Red Ed Milliband, and the song the red flag at labour conferences, it is reasonable to assume from a person interested in history point of view the ideology of said group has a leaning towards communism .

So the fact the streets were named in a period when Conservatives ruled Scotland has no impact upon your reasoning?
I beg to differ on your claimed 'interest in history' because no one with any real knowledge would post that kind of rubbish.

The 'Red Flag' has no connection with Russia at all and as you like symbolism you must know the 'red flag' that inspired it was that of a railway guard signaling to a train driver?

beanzontoast · April 21, 2015, 01: PM

Who knows lucy but further chatting on the subject is probably off the boundaries of this forum, however 2015 will I believe be a defining year for the UK as a Sovereign nation and the historical connections with all partys is very important in understanding what politicians say and mean maybe and usually is different, for instance labours conference song once, things can only get better it really doesn't say much but it works wonders for those who who feel they should have better, equally Cameron we are all in this together who is in it together again dosent say much depends on how you perceive it to mean, and lastly N Sturgeon progressive policies whats that all about, historical and symbolism is a much better indicator in politics, be careful who you vote for.

mk1 · April 21, 2015, 01: PM

Quote from: beanzontoast on April 21, 2015, 08: AM
it is reasonable to assume from a person interested in history point of view the ideology of said group has a leaning towards communism .

Would it also be reasonable to assume a Political Party that attracts members of far-right groups is a Fascist Party? Would the fact one party official has a history of being in Neo-Nazi groups make that party Nazi?

Are you admiting you are a neo-fascist?

beanzontoast · April 21, 2015, 02: PM

Exellent MK1 ordinarily and of course from a historical point of view you may be correct however people who are attracted to a party are not as a rule those that have the ideology that coupled with how long the party has been in existence, UKIPs position is quite unique in it's only 20 years or so since inception and you would expect many people to join from a mixed bag many thinking UKIP was something they could connect with when they find out the party isn't for them they usually move on indeed this is what is happening, the interesting point I would like to make is in essence there are and will always be only 2 political party's as there are only 2 sides to a coin,