Policing issues in Hartlepool - BBC national news.

[Lucy Lass-Tick]

Waffle? As a matter of interest, here's a piece from the Daily Mail :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6411663/Town-police-GIVEN-Hartlepool-ten-officers-population-90-000-people.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR268LiUHEDKvFhjS_BqqSQPt63_ALW1GJIo2uWMwSCkk9Uoizf89sEMQa8

And then Police Hour:

https://www.facebook.com/policehour/?__tn__=%2CdkCH-R-R&eid=ARCIJUTHOEFedxyiXYMfB9WfOrQMYuUyB3-2NegCY8IWiFMn8V1NCUeaWO7XkUyTrfnl-3DMEguA_7iA&hc_ref=ARQlp-3AodXmXr6UY696qSxAmfd4hwS5FZuPGAzhSSV2K-xSrBNfr7bPpoa91D-kpjE&fref=nf&hc_location=group

[kevplumb]

"Hartlepool Police Station will continue to be a beacon of policing in the centre of the town, housing Cleveland Police's Directorate of Standards and Ethics and the innovative Integrated Neighbourhood Team.

but no frontline cops

what a load of old waffle 

[Inspector Knacker]

Checked the police manning levels for England and Wales and before 2005 the figures were the same as they are now. They rose under Blair but stared to fall again. So if the figures now are the same as in the 80's and 90's what's changed?

The policing levels are back to the levels we last had riots on the streets ?

All the levels prior to 2005 were similar or lower then now. Is it a case of how your resources are deployed? Might I suggest they cut funding out to non police priorities..
Riots on the streets? The last riot on the streets of Hartlepool was when the pies Raby out at Balmers.

[Inspector Knacker]

"Hartlepool Police Station will continue to be a beacon of policing in the centre of the town, housing Cleveland Police's Directorate of Standards and Ethics and the innovative Integrated Neighbourhood Team.

but no frontline cops

what a load of old waffle 

Spot on. Just like the hospital, they call it a hospital but it in reality it's just a symbolic .
They talk of re-opening the custody suite if circumstances change. It would appear Hartlepool has turned into an oasis of peace and tranquility where crime is a thing of the past, with a crime rate just below Heaven in it's numbers.
I also loved the bit about the timings for transporting them to the custody suite at Boro, which sounds more like a medical centre than a lock up. I suspect the timings will be over 2 hours out of town after the paperwork, they don't just them in the door and drive off.
Just a cynical thought, but how many officers are frontline,, on the streets officers and not on 'other cutie'?

[Truthache]

I posted the link to Barry Coppinger's statement for information rather than debate.  I also took the opportunity to send my comments (of dissatisfaction) to his office.  Other Post readers and contributors can do the same so that the comments are recorded by the PCC office.  The lack of a police station is unacceptable for the town the size of Hartlepool.
Inspector Knacker compares it to the hospital and describes it as symbolic.  I don't regard the hospital as symbolic, it is very much active and too few people in the area recognise the work still undertaken there.  People would like a lot more done at the hospital but continually describing it a "closed" or "symbolic" is wrong in my opinion.  Yes we would like more acute care in Hartlepool (including maternity deliveries) but don't perpetuate the myth that the hospital is closed.  It won't ever be a District General Hospital as that model of care has been changing for over a decade nationally.  There is no sign that the NHS will do an about turn either locally or nationally.  Too few specialist doctors to provide every service at every district hospital.  Sharing doctors between hospitals is needed in many areas not just North Tees and Hartlepool.
On the policing, the BBC film showed Hartlepool in a very poor light and with further topics to follow it is possible that the town will be subject of more bad publicity across the country.  Very embarrassing and hardly likely to attract employers, employees or families to our town and that includes potential NHS employees.

[stokoe]

Be on Jeremy vine show now on radio 2 be interesting

[mk1]

It made the Daily Mail. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6411663/Town-police-GIVEN-Hartlepool-ten-officers-population-90-000-people.html

[Inspector Knacker]

I posted the link to Barry Coppinger's statement for information rather than debate.  I also took the opportunity to send my comments (of dissatisfaction) to his office.  Other Post readers and contributors can do the same so that the comments are recorded by the PCC office.  The lack of a police station is unacceptable for the town the size of Hartlepool.
Inspector Knacker compares it to the hospital and describes it as symbolic.  I don't regard the hospital as symbolic, it is very much active and too few people in the area recognise the work still undertaken there.  People would like a lot more done at the hospital but continually describing it a "closed" or "symbolic" is wrong in my opinion.  Yes we would like more acute care in Hartlepool (including maternity deliveries) but don't perpetuate the myth that the hospital is closed.  It won't ever be a District General Hospital as that model of care has been changing for over a decade nationally.  There is no sign that the NHS will do an about turn either locally or nationally.  Too few specialist doctors to provide every service at every district hospital.  Sharing doctors between hospitals is needed in many areas not just North Tees and Hartlepool.
On the policing, the BBC film showed Hartlepool in a very poor light and with further topics to follow it is possible that the town will be subject of more bad publicity across the country.  Very embarrassing and hardly likely to attract employers, employees or families to our town and that includes potential NHS employees.

Like the police, the hospital ain't what it used to be. Substitute shadow of it's former self for symbolic if you want but it changes nothing.

[Land Phil]

Just because things are planned over years doesn't mean they are agreed to.
We pay their wages and they answer to us.

[Inspector Knacker]

Just because things are planned over years doesn't mean they are agreed to.
We pay their wages and they answer to us.

Trouble is, we're the original soft touch. These bodies cut services as they please because they can do it without any kind of fuss being kicked up. No political barking Rottweilers for us, just preening, whimpering show poodles.

[diSme]

I don't for one moment believe that only ~4 people per day are using Hartlepool custody suite.....

[Inspector Knacker]

Neither do I. Have they mistakenly went to a parallel Hartlepool called Hartleyfool?
A place where crime has decreased so quickly the courts and police custody cells can be consigned to the history books. Members of the local criminal fraternity are apparently signing on en masse for the Open University, forming chess clubs and organising heavenly choirs while shops are getting their shutters removed as they're now redundant. As if!

[Disgruntled voter]

Just seen a few of these born again Christians checking car tyres and valeting cars. Salt of the earth working throughout the night

[Lucy Lass-Tick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw

[Inspector Knacker]

Years ago, Billingham was an independent vibrant place with a good rates income from the many industries in its area. Then, it became part of the Teesside County Borough and in the early 70's part of Stockton. Services shipped out till now it's just a big housing estate north of Stockton.
There's our future.
The way things are going though, it must be going to be a crime free, healthy future if you believe our friends on the Tees, who apparently need huge police stations and hospitals. As if!