Wilcox

[mk1]

You have to wonder at Shane's silence in the Chamber. After years of being put down by Wells he has the perfect opportunity to highlight his duplicity yet he remains silent.
Why is one who was vocal when powerless mute when given the weapons with which he could strike back?
Methinks Shane is being leaned on.

[Monkeys mate]

I'm not a kipper by any means. I also wasn't posting to just let people have a go at me. I have no interest in ukip nationally. My tactical vote (I thought I pointed it out) was down to a presumption  that the headland and harbour ward would be close and therefore I hoped if I went tactically, EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT SUPPORT UKIP (not sure if that's clear enough?) that another labour councillor could be stopped. Perhaps not everyone would understand tactical voting but it could be used effectively.
My origin post was related to a site such as this, having some ability to inform people of the issues and their options rather than just somewhere that people come to get abused by others.

[fred c]

MM....... good points well made, an awful lot of voters chose the option you have outlined, including myself, Hartlepool is now in the position of 'anybody will be better than labour'.

What is really needed now, is for the UKIP councilors to make a more concerted challenge to the LabTor Mob, they have yet to form any any policy that will unite all opposition councillors against the coalition council.

[Land Phil]

True story, I heard a couple of old dears on the Headland say they voted for Labour as that was the only candidate that shut the gate.

They were also unable to connect the 4% council tax rise to Hartlepool Labour.

It is an uphill challenge.

[akarjl]

MM....... good points well made, an awful lot of voters chose the option you have outlined, including myself, Hartlepool is now in the position of 'anybody will be better than labour'.

That was my logic also- without opening a can of worms and facing a barrage of abuse I am pro brexit-my choice but I think UKIP are retarded and of no value other than they had a chance to challenge the Labour ( a true miss use of the word) party in Hartlepool that controls the Clowncil. I despise the conduct of the likes of Mr and Mrs + Crannible. What is lacking in Hartlepool is accountability, so many promises, denials and lies that are simply brushed under the carpet by the giggling blonde buffoon ( just watch how he behaves in the council video)  and his pet orangutang.

[fred c]

Openness........ Transparency.........Accountability

3 words that were at the core of the Peer Review Groups report on HBC several years ago, unfortunately for the council tax payers that report was met with total disdain by the powers that be & was subsequently forgotten about.

[Steely Dan]

I'm not a kipper by any means. I also wasn't posting to just let people have a go at me. I have no interest in ukip nationally. My tactical vote (I thought I pointed it out) was down to a presumption  that the headland and harbour ward would be close and therefore I hoped if I went tactically, EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT SUPPORT UKIP (not sure if that's clear enough?) that another labour councillor could be stopped. Perhaps not everyone would understand tactical voting but it could be used effectively.
My origin post was related to a site such as this, having some ability to inform people of the issues and their options rather than just somewhere that people come to get abused by others.

Fair comments. Was a vote for an independent of PHF not an option?

[Inspector Knacker]

Is there any point in this site ? That's a definite yes to the question.
You keep asking questions and keep asking questions on top of questions.

[Monkeys mate]

I guess you get me in that one Riddler5
I would just love to see some real political change in the town and would love to have seen ukip do something with their privileged position but no, they wasted it. I have also felt that recently there are a few on here who aren't interested in what people say, they just want to attack.
I do accept that only PHF and independent have shown any conviction in their beliefs in the council. Labour councillors just have a pack mentality and our conservative councillors may as well switch sides as they also vote en masse with labour. The town needs some people who want to see it improve and not just as a way of inflating their own egos

[Steely Dan]

MM. What is this privileged position you talk about with UKIP. What are these PHF beliefs you talk of?

Me asking the questions now. I'm genuinely interested in your answers

[fred c]

I think we will see exactly why this site is a very important point of focus for Hartlepool & it's residents on Friday.

Not 1& I mean, Not 1 of the LabMob made any effort whatsoever in caling for an inquiry into the biggest voluntary / charity sector scandal seen in Hartlepool, the councillors involved as 'Trustees' with the organisation concerned didn't bother their a***'s in carrying out their duties as 'Trustees'.

What they did do very quickly after the police became involved, was to deny the fact they were actually 'Trustees' despite it being listed on their register of interests.

Not 1 word of condemnation of the scandal or its perpetrators, not 1 word of support for the abused employees of the organisation from any of the pseudo socialists that sat in the council chamber with the perpetrator & counted that person as a friend.

Hartlepool realy does deserve better.

[Inspector Knacker]

Sites like this don't achieve stunning victories or dramatically change things, they nibble away over time at the foundations.
The structure on the foundations looks solid till it starts to crack up..

[Monkeys mate]

MM. What is this privileged position you talk about with UKIP. What are these PHF beliefs you talk of?

Me asking the questions now. I'm genuinely interested in your answers

The privileged position I talk of is one of being a councillor. To be in a position to make a positive change in the town, to benefit the people of the town and see improvement, investment and development, not only of its environment but also of the lives of those who live here.
I do believe that anyone who want to stand for election should do so for these or similar reasons. However, i feel as though the majority of the labour/Tory councillors are there for those reasons or anything like them. It feels as though they are there for different reasons and that power and title appears to be a high motivating factor for them.
As for your questions about PHF i don't know them personal but from what I read and see they do try to stand up against the majority party in the council - as you would hope opposition would do. Importantly I believe they do this in a genuine fashion, attempting to point out some of the hypocrisy and rubbish that comes out of the minds of some of our elected members minds.

Riddler5 I agree with that, it is a bit by bit approach and change takes time. I hope that you and others like you can continue as an opposing voice and continue to highlight the inaccuracies of out council and try to make a difference that the town needs.

[jawsbbc]

i too was watching sab and cranney p**s about laughing nudging each other as if to say " watch this"    if it was one of the public they would have received a ban

[mk1]

i too was watching sab and cranney p**s about laughing nudging each other as if to say " watch this" 

Will they be like that at Angies sentencing tomorrow?