The Labour/Tory Coalition in Action

[steveL]

At the same time that Wells was being so accepting of the loss of his minority leadership allowance he was voted in, with Labour support, as Chairman of the Licencing Committee for which he receives a special reponsibility allowance of £3,460. In addition and despite the advice of the Chief Solicitor that the rules of proportionality (fairness to you and me) would suggest that the next vacant position on the Fire Authority should go to either an Independent or PHF councillor, Labour voted in support of Wells to be appointed to the Fire Authority netting him another £2,194.

So inspite of Wells noble willingness to accept the loss of his minority leadership allowance, he ended the whole process significantly better off - to the tune of over 2 Grand - thanks to Labour support.

Probably of more importance to Wells (and to Wells' mates) was that Labour also supported the appointment of all three Tory councillors to the Planning Committee, something which had been prevously unheard of and which was out of all proportion to their numbers.

At the same time that Wells was putting the 'Tory' Manor leaflet together, he issued a Press Release to the Hartlepool Mail repeating the claims contained in the leaflet which so far, The Mail has decided not to publish and with Peter Devlin now having described the contents as 'inaccurate' I imagine The Mail will give it a wide berth.

I have often said on here that I couldn't ever vote Tory even if they put lighted matches down my fingernails but I do believe that if the majority of people in Rural West vote for a Tory councillor then it's only fair that they should get one. Wells has arranged things as Leader so that even when the electorate of Rural West have voted to have three Tory Councillors they have ended up with three Labour councillors instead complete with a 100% record of voting for all things Labour even when the town is suffereing from the effects of the most dysfunctional Labour Group in years.

Worse than that, Wells has now taken things further in using Tory funds to effectively support a Labour by-election campaign in Manor. 

[Mr Mister]

That seems to about sum it up Steve.

The thing is R.W. gets on well with Scabs, Labour generally and can't stand PHF so he's hardly going to do thing for the benefit of PHF anytime soon.

It shocks me that you return to this point every time, instead of moving forward, you're playing into their hands time and time again..

Mr Brownbridge, my old P.E. teacher, used to shout two things often I recall, "Come here bonny lad" & "silly boy never learn" was he ever your P.E.teacher Steve?

[admin]

The Wells issue is one which goes well beyond the current by-election and has been going on for some time. I once sat next to a couple of Tories in the public seats at a council meeting who were very vocal in their disgust at the way he is managing the Tory group.

[Mr Mister]

How on earth do you expect him to manage 3 Councillors without playing the game?

Never mind 2 Tories not happy, the rest aren't happy that there is only 3 of them in the first place.

At least the 3 Tories are singing from the same song sheet, admittedly it's Christopher's song sheet, PHF only have 5 Councillors for now and one doesn't talk to another I have heard..

[Inspector Knacker]

That seems to about sum it up Steve.



Mr Brownbridge, my old P.E. teacher, used to shout two things often I recall, "Come here bonny lad" & "silly boy never learn" was he ever your P.E.teacher Steve?

He was my P.E. teacher and recall no such folksy advice....just shouting.

[Mr Mister]

Yes he was good at shouting, lol.. good man deep down, sometimes..

[not4me]

perhaps I'm naive but I would have thought his job was to go all out the get his own candidate elected.

[pensionater]

Labour must be laughing their caps off,this site is going into melt down with every one at each others throats.Instead of point scoring people should get back to raising awareness about what's going on behind closed doors.

[steveL]

No you're wrong there, mate. It's not all about MR - there's far more going on behind closed doors than MR. The whole edifice is rotten to the core and Ray Wells is right there at the heart of it. It's all about whether you're prepared to make a stand and try to put things right. No one can say this site hasn't done it's bit and as long as we're faced with people like Shane who continue to try and defend the indefensible we'll keep at it because that's precisely the reason the council is in the mess it's in.
"The reality is that Burbank was the most likely site to be chosen, according to two planning officers I spoke to. "
Whether Burbank or West View was the most likely site to be chosen becomes irrelevant when we somehow ended up at Hart - the two least suitable sites. A point which Shane appears to have missed. Answer: both the council officers he spoke to and the council officers I spoke to were completely ignored to minimise the loss in votes.

I think that was wrong - Shane apparently doesn't - or hasn't got the balls to say so because his Leader did what Labour told him to and voted for Hart.

And why should people have to write to Eric Pickles when they have their own Conservative Leader in the Council? Because Ray Wells is more connected to the local labour party than he is to the policies of his own party. Eric Pickles thinks that local Government Unions should fund their own Union Reps - so does Shane - Ray Wells supported Labour......and so it goes on.

Ray Wells votes Labour on all things and Shane continues to defend him .....end of

[Private Fraser]

As I've said before, the three Tories will do whatever "The Mob" want as long as they are left alone in their little kingdom of Rural West. As long as they have their own patch, they don't give a toss about the rest of the town.

[SRMoore]

Talk to the hand, Shane or better still talk to Wells (if you can get your head out of his ar** long enough) as he was the one spouting off about it on the bus.

Ahh yes, your usual comeback when someone calls BS on your posts.

So Ray was "spouting off about it on the bus" was he? Is this you hearing half of a story from someone else and filling in the blanks to suit your argument again? You weren't on the bus, Geoff told the Mail he wasn't on the bus so who exactly are you playing Chinese whispers with?

Pensionater, it isn't about scoring points for me. I just want to make sure readers are hearing all of the facts rather than just what Steve and other PHF members want you to know.

You see Steve tries to shrug off everything I say by insinuating I am defending Ray Wells; it's his way of trying to shut down the discussion. In actual fact my posts rarely defend Ray or his actions, I merely correct inaccuracies that people like to use to tar all Tories with the same brush.

Ray is big enough to defend himself if he wishes to and he is always just a telephone call or email away if anyone actually wants to ask him something.

[steveL]

Listen shithead. Your beloved Ray confines himself to making personal threats against me to others. Does that sound like someone who deserves the title Councillor? And as long as you go on defending him you're peas out of the same rotten pod to me.

[Private Fraser]

Spot on SteveL (Although the shithead remark may be stronging it a bit). I know of two other people who have been threatened by Kim Jong Wells over remarks that were much less inflammatory than those stated many times on this site. I also know of several people who packed in their association with the Conservatives in Hartlepool as soon as he was elected in West Park a few years ago. They resigned/ended their support because they knew what he was upto. "I'm alright Jack, pull the ladder up", that's his only message.

[Mr Mister]

Listen shithead. Your beloved Ray confines himself to making personal threats against me to others. Does that sound like someone who deserves the title Councillor? And as long as you go on defending him you're peas out of the same rotten pod to me.

I am genuinely shocked Stephen O(

[steveL]

Spot on SteveL (Although the shithead remark may be stronging it a bit). I know of two other people who have been threatened by Kim Jong Wells over remarks that were much less inflammatory than those stated many times on this site. I also know of several people who packed in their association with the Conservatives in Hartlepool as soon as he was elected in West Park a few years ago. They resigned/ended their support because they knew what he was upto. "I'm alright Jack, pull the ladder up", that's his only message.

It's a fairly odd situation for me that I, a long-term socialist until the local labour lot put me off the whole philosophy, find myself shouting the case for the local Tories to be properly represented in the council chamber and against people like Shane who really ought to be doing the same.

(you're probably right about the 'shithead' bit but it saved me from kicking the cat.)