She was arrested again yesterday after appearing on bail.
I fully expect Christopher to be "Puckering Up" as i type........... another round of A**e Kissing by members of "The Mob" & a hastily written editorial in the Mail offering full support for a much maligned councillor, who performs miracles for her constituents, cures cancer, alleviates suffering in the third world & keeps very thin dogs.
No sign of it yet in the online version (just the usual obsequious drivel) - any chance of a scanned version?
A HARTLEPOOL councillor has been arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.
Councillor Angie Wilcox, who represents the Manor House ward, was originally arrested and bailed in February over allegations she stole two bedside cabinets.
When the 50-year-old reported to Hartlepooi Police Station yesterday to answer bail, she was re-arrested in connection with the new allegation. She was again bailed without charge while inquiries continue.
The theft claim arose following a dispute with her former landlord dating back to October 27 last year when Coun Wilcox moved from Fenton Road to a new house in Grange Avenue, Hartlepooi.
The mum-of-one, who said at the time her name had been "dragged through the mud", claimed she had done nothing wrong and described the allegations as "totally unfounded".
Coun Wilcox, who is elected until 2015, is a former Brierton School pupil who has worked in the voluntary sector for 30 years and is the manager of Manor Residents' Association.
Her current council responsibilities include being vice chair of children's services scrutiny and the south and central neighbourhood forums.
A Cleveland Police spokeswoman said yesterday: "A 50-year-old woman from Hartlepool arrested in connection with theft has been rearrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice."
;D ;D ;D Hilarious....... Will we ever see this womans name in print without the words arrested, bailed, and theft featured somewhere in the same sentence. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Another day...another revelation. It's getting to a stage when you daren't go to the loo in case you miss something. Perverting the Course of Justice is a serious charge. Surely CAB simply has to, at the very least, suspend this woman from the Labour Group while inquiries are going on.
Quote from: marky on May 04, 2013, 12: PM
Another day...another revelation. It's getting to a stage when you daren't go to the loo in case you miss something. Perverting the Course of Justice is a serious charge. Surely CAB simply has to, at the very least, suspend this woman from the Labour Group while inquiries are going on.
It is a crime that almost always leads to a custodial sentence, as in the case of the LibDem MP Chris Huhne & his ex wife Vicky Pryce.
I think "Orville & The Mob" will try to bluff it out, after all it is only an allegation ??? ??? ??? ???
Yes, she's not been charged with anything as yet...only 'arrested under suspicion'. As with all these things - best to leave the boys in blue to do their stuff.
Comments on The Mails article have been removed......
A conspiracy investigation means there is someone else involved. I am thinking out loud here but perhaps a story was concocted to explain away the 'oversight' concerning the furniture. If so it seems to have gone ti*ts up.....................
I thought conspiracy for this could mean attempting to but failing.
I think this will turn out to be an example of a 'cover up' becoming the story rather than the original complaint. In all honesty it was a trivial issue that could be explained away as a misunderstanding. It seems now that others have become involved with Angie.
I presume the Council will 'do a Drummond' and pass a motion of confidence in Angie.
However it looks like Angie is beyond salvation. Watch closely as the Fa*tty Belchers ever so slowly edge away from her to try and preserve their new found riches.
They have already started altering the record
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Has Angie Wilcox got no morals not only does she not pay her staff the right wage but now getting rearrested, when is she going to resign
Why keep calling for the scabs to make her resign? ???
THEY are part of the problem, one is actually on the board of trustees...you know, the people that are SUPPOSED to monitor the running of the 'charity'. ::)
When this lot comes down, I hope those Cllrs that kept their heads down but knew what the score was, are hauled to account also. >:(
What gets me is, people in this town HATE the Tories for what they are...money grabbing, in it for themselves, look after their own etc etc....
for God's sake, wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!!!!!
No the wonder so many have voted for UKIP, at least THEY hold Britain for the indigenous population and don't hold the door open for the world and his dog to come here are bleed our health and welfare system dry. :o
Of course, that makes me a 'little Englander'. 8)
Dead f***ing right!!!
I watched a documentary the other night; it involved a Jamaican that came here in the 60's and applied for a job driving a bus. Because he didn't get the job (he'd only been here a week) and it went to a 'local', he called it racial discrimination.
Tell me; Do YOU think if you went to Jamaica (or anywhere else) and thought you should be considered above the local population, do you think you would win your case?
Only in the UK can people coming into the country be put on the level with (or before) the local population. :'(
UKIP have made great strides in looking after our indigenous population, only now are the Tories crapping themselves and saying 'we too will control immigration'.
Too late Cameron, too late.
Way to go for going waaaaaayyyyyyyy off topic Reaper.
But since you mentioned it, immigration has been significantly cut under this government and despite what UKIP council candidates had been publishing on their leaflets, councillors can't control immigration or deliver an EU referendum.
Now, I'm off to get my bacon sandwiches and cup of tea that my, daughter of Jamaican and Italian immigrants, wife has lovingly made.
Quote from: SRMoore on May 05, 2013, 10: AM
Way to go for going waaaaaayyyyyyyy off topic Reaper.
The best example of this tunnel vision was on Newsnight on Friday night. They had talking heads from the main Parties in to discuss the local election result. The UKIP woman was first up and her opening sentence was that The EU was the cause of all the UK problems!
Anyway back to Angie and (hopefully) her opening 'sentence'...................
Can i use my phone in here ??? ???
Reaper, you need to stay off the wacky baccy otherwise your Tory employers might sack you.
How can you describe local Tories of being some sort of disease there is only 3 of them !
They all get the same allowances which is about £88 a week after tax for taking abuse from numpties like you.
Wake up and stop smelling the Tip-ex :-[
What mystifies me is the degree of denial going on. Wilcox has just been voted onto the Finance and Policy Committee, the main governing committee of the council and the equivalent of the old Cabinet.
Mind you, that's not quite as surreal as Cranney being voted onto the Tees Valley Community Foundation – Grant Giving Panel
That's just plain scary . . .
Tories?......One of them is hardly ever there, one is there but doesn't know it and the last one is there but appears to be sitting on the wrong side of the chamber.
Here's a weird fact: a sitting councillor is allowed to serve a jail sentence and still retain their council seat unless the sentence exceeds 3 months . . . bet it makes councillor ward surgeries interesting ;D
Quote from: steveL on May 05, 2013, 01: PM
Here's a weird fact: a sitting councillor is allowed to serve a jail sentence and still retain their council seat unless the sentence exceeds 3 months
I don`t see a resignation any time soon, & if the 3 month rule is known by "The Mob", i don`t expect any resignations at all............ scruples, morals, integrity, shame... words that aren`t in "The Mobs" Dictionary.
But then again they do exist in a different dimension to the rest of us >:(
You couldn`t make this lot up.
Wilcox on the Finance and Policy Committe ........ ::) ::) ::)
Cranney on the Tees Valley Community Foundation – Grant Giving Panel...... ::) ::) ::)
Maybe Mr Mitchell can work it out for ??? ??? ???
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/perverting_the_course_of_justice/
Date Produced: 1 July 2011
Title: Administration of Justice
Offence: Perverting the Course of Justice
Legislation: Common law
Mode of Trial: Indictable only
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: At large
Sentencing Range: 4 months to 36 months
Aggravating & Mitigating Factors
Nature and number of offences
Whether premeditated or spontaneous
Degree of persistence
Arrest of innocent person
Innocent person maliciously targeted
Any impact upon prosecution
Relevant Sentencing Guidelines
R v Tunney [2007] 1 Cr. App. R. (S) 91
The sentence appropriate for perverting the course of justice essentially depends on three matters:
the seriousness of the substantive offence to which the perverting of the course of justice related;
the degree of persistence; and
the effect of the attempt to pervert the course of justice on the course of justice itself.
Relevant Sentencing Case Law
General sentencing brackets summarised in Archbold at 28-28 as follows:
threatening or interfering with witnesses - 4 months to 24 months
concealing evidence - 4 months to 18 months, possibly longer if serious crime
false allegation of crime resulting in arrest of innocent person - 4 to 12 months
Recent Decisions reported in Current Sentencing Practice reported at B 8-2.3 divided into: interference with prosecution witness; threatening or intimidating witness; making false allegation of crime; concealing evidence; interfering with jurors; false information in mitigation.
AG's Ref (No. 1 of 1990) (John Cameron Atkinson) (1990-1991) 12 Cr. App. R. (S.) 245
Sentence should normally be consecutive to substantive offence.
AG's Ref (No 35 of 2009) (R v Binsteed) [2010] 1 Cr. App. R. (S.) 61
Sentences of imprisonment should not normally be suspended.
Angie Wilcox and the story about failing to pay the cleaner minimum wage made it into the current issue of Private Eye in the Rotten Boroughs section.
for the third time,too.
Doing her bit to put 'Hartlepool on the map'
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With performances such as this............. Alaister Rae needs to keep on his toes otherwise HBC could be getting a "New Head" of PR
Wonder if Cllr Hall would be interested In the job? :D ;D
I was googling some local news and found this site more helpful than the Mail.
I think this site is great pity the ones who need to take note .. are choosing to swan around in there ivory towers as though all is well....... talk about rose coloured glasses... ???
We're hearing that the management committee of Manor Residents have all received a letter from a solicitor for non payment of debts. He is holding them all personally accountable for them.
Looks like a brown trousers day....
Whoopssssssssssssss We Gottit Rong Again Ange....
Can`t fault the solicitor, if they have knowledge of the goings on, & said nothing they are culpable.
The Downside of Manor Residents collapsing will be the people who need help the most will be affected, thats what hppened at the Pheonix.
If I were Angie I would be worried. The way this is going then I suspect the Fa*tty Belchers are planning to ditch her and blame the resulting scandal of the missing money on her personally.
The end of Manor Residents is going to be messy and a scapegoat has to be found.
The Fatt*ies will be praying she is charged and convicted so they can blame her and avoid any responsibility falling on them.
Quote from: mk1 on May 13, 2013, 09: PM
If I were Angie I would be worried. The way this is going then I suspect the Fa*tty Belchers are planning to ditch her and blame the resulting scandal of the missing money on her personally.
The end of Manor Residents is going to be messy and a scapegoat has to be found.
The Fatt*ies will be praying she is charged and convicted so they can blame her and avoid any responsibility falling on them.
If CAB and SAB could have ditched Wilcox they would have done it months ago. I wonder if they are worried that when she goes down she decides to take a lot of people with her. I doubt she is the sort of person to go quietly. It puts a whole new meaning to the term 'we're all in it together'.
I back up your opinion on that mk1, CAB abandoning his directorship of WC is a cynical attempt to get his backside out of the ringer, but the fact remains that he was a Director who bailed out the week before Mr Mitchell kicked off his Inquiry.
His Consort is a Trustee of MR along with Paul Beck, forgive my possible ignorance about such matters, but aren`t trustees supposed to oversee matters appertaining to the running of the organisation they are a trustee of ???
There are others of course who have connections to MR & WC, although i won`t mention any names in case 1 of them phones my Boss... but it is a simple task to join the dots to find the link between, MR, WC, Committee Chairs, Directors, Trustees, Councillors, Managers & Families.
The Links are incontrovertible, unequivical & damming, "The Mob" have publicly backed Wilcox & even the Mail will struggle to explain away their involvement in whats been going on.
Totally agree Fred C.. the people who work and use Manor Residents Centre will be the ones who suffer in the long run.. MR does a lot of good for the Manor and the town, But now because politics was allowed to enter the building, all the good that was done is now tarnished by political money... everyone will think oh was that due to a quick vote .. answer is NO most of the work done in that place is DONE by LAW abiding and hard working staff... say what you like about AW and her closest mob.... i dont think the staff and residents of the Manor are in her league............ and most of all dont want to be... the Manor residents want and need that centre ran by someone trust worthy, but for how long do they have to put up with the opposite....... :-\
Quote from: Lord Elpus on May 13, 2013, 10: PM
If CAB and SAB could have ditched Wilcox they would have done it months ago. I wonder if they are worried that when she goes down she decides to take a lot of people with her. I doubt she is the sort of person to go quietly. It puts a whole new meaning to the term 'we're all in it together'.
A case of 'we're all
right in it together'
I agree that the residents of Owton Manor deserve better than MR and its 'management'.
But it also leads me to think; Why keep putting things on a plate for people (such as the free food from the 'banks'?).
Almost all of them have gardens (usually filled with rubbish or overgrown and unrecognisable as a garden).
Why not hand out vegetable seeds and let them grow their own food (as much as possible)?
As it is stated most of them are unemployed, they have all of the time in the world to tend to the produce.
The food banks ought to be a stop-gap until the produce is productive.
But of course, this is Hartlepool and that smells of 'coming down' on people. Conversely, couldn't it be considered people standing up for themselves and taking responsibility for themselves?
I fear that when the walls do come tumbling down, they will prove extremely difficult to rebuild & Manor Residents will be consigned to history, the same as the Pheonix Centre.
I for one don`t want anymore ratepayers money spent on Voluntary / Charity sector organisations "Until" proper checks & balance take place on the integrity of people who are going to be involved in running them...... & there should be "No Elected" councillors working for them in any capacity other than in the role of a Trustee.
A lot of this grief could be avoided if sufficient attention was paid to the financial management of community organisations together with appropriate, truly independent and professional auditing. That's what went wrong with the Phoenix Centre and, despite several critical reports at the time, it seems HBC learnt nothing from the experience.
No public money should be handed over to such organisations without a reciprical committment to provide regular evidence of good accounting practice and without a serious committment by HBC to routinely monitor and audit the financial management of such organisations. There are far too many Pontius Pilates within HBC.
It's just plain crazy to hand over large amounts of public money to people who aren't used to handling it.
The shame of all this is that, as I've said previously, there is a lot of good work done in Owton Manor but there is a high chance of it all being put at risk by the appalling standard of management - financial or otherwise.
The Question about monitoring / auditing organisations that receive public funding was raised by a member of the public in a council meeting, the answer given was that the Council does not audit or monitor where the money goes after it has been allocated to the various groups. (or words to that effect)
It will be interesting to read the report that Drummond ordered into the dealings of Who Cares......... if they ever release it that is....... having said that.... I think Tom Mitchell will probably have a copy, hand delivered by a man in a monkey suit. ;D ;D ;D