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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: The Great Dictator on May 21, 2012, 09: AM

Title: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 21, 2012, 09: AM
 :) Great to see that Savannah Marshall won the gold medal at the world championships although i felt for the poor kid when she struggled to
answer simple questions in the post fight interview. I only hope her management give her some guidance especially with the Olympics coming up.
The brave 21 year old looked as though she had been to the Stuart Drummond school of public speaking  :-[
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: codheadless on May 21, 2012, 05: PM
Savannah is a very quiet shy girl, she had just finished her fight when a camera and microphone were thrust at her, her emotions will of been all over the place.
Dont think there is any need to compare her to Drummond.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: steveL on May 21, 2012, 05: PM
. . . a bit of a churlish post, I think by suggesting that the quality of the girl's achievenment is somehow diluted by her not attending a public speaking course as part of her training.

the girl done good - you don't have to say anything else.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: christine blakey on May 21, 2012, 05: PM
She was brilliant and I hope Amanda Coulson is soon boxing her way to Olympic success.  It is fabulous that Hartlepool can boast of some really good boxers, male and female.

I know that people can have concerns about boxing and quite frankly it has to be admitted that people need to be professional about it, and play by the rules.  With that in place, there should be no life threatening injury to be had.  My son started boxing and it was the best thing he did as his confidence grew and he became mega fit.  Then one of the rappers whom I support is also a great boxer.

It is a discipline and just look at what Hartlepool has on offer?

Well done to all of them, it is brilliant that it is a fitness sport that is not based in Church Street in the early hours!

I am absolutely sure that Savanah will be brilliant on the mike when the sudden shock of landing the winning trophy sets in.  She will have been extremely exhausted when interviewed.  She looks great in today's Hartlepool Mail.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 21, 2012, 06: PM
Its bad enough listening to Drummond, Graham Storm and Michael Hunter talking on TV, she'll be in the public eye nationally if she wins an olympic medal.
I'm right behind her, maybe Christine Blakey could give her some elocution lessons before the games start..?
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: brassed off monkey on May 21, 2012, 07: PM
Quote from: testicles on May 21, 2012, 06: PM
Its bad enough listening to Drummond, Graham Storm and Michael Hunter talking on TV, she'll be in the public eye nationally if she wins an olympic medal.
I'm right behind her, maybe Christine Blakey could give her some elocution lessons before the games start..?


There is a difference, The Sportsmen & Women that have represented Hartlepool have "Selflessly" given their time & expertise to achieve success that reflects well on the town.

I for one find it offensive to compare them with someone who has taken so much from Hartlepool & has put so little in, the mayor has had 10 years of of experience & he still has major problems when faced with an audience.

I don`t expect Savannah Marshall to be comfortable in front of the media & i feel sure she was almost overwhelmed by the occasion, but she should be congratulated on a magnificent achievement.

To suggest that her World Championship win is in any way tarnished because she doesn`t speak like a BBC newsreader is churlish in the extreme & to be perfectly honest you should be ashamed at the tone of your post.




Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: mk1 on May 21, 2012, 07: PM
Several studies have shown they we subconciously judge people within seconds of a meeting. The first impresion you give  lasts for the length of the relationship.
Anyone  seeing a poor 'interview' is going to remember it and (again subconciously) use it to reinforce any negative stereotypes that already have of that type of person. 'Type'  means other people from that area/town.
We  have had years of being judged by our association to  Dumbo and if the  interview is a bad one (I have nor seen it) then a wise trainer would ensure no more are given in those circumnstances. Play to your strengths not your weakness!
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: christine blakey on May 21, 2012, 07: PM
I know Amanda Coulson and she is such a selfless person, so a good description of boxers in general as they focus on their sport in Hartlepool.  I am sure that Savanah is the same.

I know that the comment about me was said in jest as they know I would help someone along whatever and wherever, so no offence taken.

It is true that first impressions alongside negative stereotypes count.  Therefore, the praise for Savanah and other sports personalities in our town is wonderful. 
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 22, 2012, 12: AM
Praise indeed Miss Blakey, the first 4 seconds of meeting someone gives you a mental impression of them as a person and thats fact.

Brass monkey, get off your high horse and get real, i know the press better than you do and i tell you that they will make an example of
her in that special BBC way if she doesn't get help.

LLTA, no i will not tell her to her face, she'll knock the sh*t out of me..

To go back to my original comment, i hope her management or the olympic authorities get her trained soon because those bas*ards
in the BBC will eat her alive.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: mk1 on May 22, 2012, 01: AM
See the 'interview' here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18129531
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 22, 2012, 01: AM
Thanks Mk1, those BBC sh*ts make my blood boil..
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on May 22, 2012, 10: AM
The interview wasn't that unkind ..it was obvious she was worn out and not an idiot to anybody watching.

TOTALLY different to seeing Dumbo being interviewed.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: not4me on May 22, 2012, 11: AM
Something for the town to celebrate for once. Good for her and well done!
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 22, 2012, 12: PM
What a very silly and cowardly post by Testicles (an apt name methinks). Rather than congratulate someone from the town who has been crowned best in the world at her chosen sport he simply has to pick on the young woman's lack of diction in a post fight interview.

Some people in Hartlepool can find nothing to be happy about, no solutions to problems and many can't even be bothered to try.

Perhaps in the other thread I responded to about the hospital people have believed the nonsense folk like Testicles peddles and have decided their is no point giving it a go because we're only from Hartlepool and who listens to us. 

Well done Savannah you're a credit to the town even if a few aspiring intellectuals can manage to pick fault from behind their computers.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: mk1 on May 22, 2012, 01: PM
Quote from: Benefitcheat on May 22, 2012, 12: PM
he simply has to pick on the young woman's lack of diction in a post fight interview.

I knew nothing about her until I saw the message. In an attempt to find the interview I googled her and what struck me was the many mentions of her as 'of few words' so it is not confined to this one event.
One newspaper article  made great play of it.
It takes nothing away from the  victory but it is something that could be addressed with a modicum of coaching.


Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Julie noted on May 22, 2012, 01: PM
Firstly; although I abhor 'boxing' (we won't let 2 animals fight each other until one is knocked unconscious, but we allow humans), well done to Savannah.  :-*

Next, her lack of cogent speech was no doubt due to being breathless after a tough fight.  :P
Try doing a 1/2 marathon and immediately speaking to someone with a microphone.

Thirdly, it was bad of her management to allow the reporter access before she had chance to collect her thoughts and 'get her wind'.  :-X

To me, most footballers sound that way all of the time.........'er, d'yer no wot ah mean, like'   ;)
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Micksmate on May 22, 2012, 02: PM
Perhaps you should be looking at the BBC's reporter and how he handled himself when talking to someone who had just came out of the ring, he stumbled over his words more than she did.   Questions like: "tell me about the work it took to get where you are" and "tell me about the first time you worked oops walked ito a boxing club" and this is what we are paying our licence money for, take another look at the interview and concentrate on him and not her, she should have given him a smack in the mouth for being such a prat.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 22, 2012, 03: PM
i have never commented on hospital issues because i don't give a toss.

I have offered a solution to the boxing girl to get help which is more than you did.

Its nice to represent the town with dignity unlike the other trolls mentioned earlier, i guess my standards and aspirations for
Hartlepool are much higher than that of you and the rest of the tattoo and pasty brigade.

Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Stig of the Seaton Dump on May 22, 2012, 04: PM
The sun is out ...is it officially silly season   :)
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: mk1 on May 22, 2012, 06: PM
Talking of Frank Bruno if ever a man was the direct opposite of his 'screen' image then it is he.
I remember a telly prog. a while back where ordinary members of the public were allowed to have their hero stay with them for a few days-a sort of 'Stars In Your Attic' reality show.
Michael Winner was one guest and despite all you read about him he came across as a thoroughly nice ordinary  bloke. A real gentleman.
Bruno on the other hand was a right diva. Rude, arrogant and totally obsessed with his own importance v the little people. He ended up reducing the woman who worshiped him to tears.
The man was a complete pig and a million miles from his carefully cultivated 'know what I mean 'arry' image.

Contact his PR man!
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 23, 2012, 02: PM
Quote from: testicles on May 22, 2012, 03: PM
Benefitcheat you m**r*n, i have never commented on hospital issues because i don't give a toss.

I have offered a solution to the boxing girl to get help which is more than you did.

Its nice to represent the town with dignity unlike the other trolls mentioned earlier, i guess my standards and aspirations for
Hartlepool are much higher than that of you and the rest of the tattoo and pasty brigade.


If the best you can manage when someone disagrees with you is to hurl abuse to a total stranger, abuse that you would probably report me to the police for if I returned it in the street, then I suggest you wind your neck in about someone who is able to achieve a level of excellence an individual with so much spite as you display could ever dream of.

Come back and preach about standards and aspirations when you have some, but don't assume you are in some way better than me or anyone else simply because of a forum log in.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 23, 2012, 02: PM
Is he one of the ABs? I'm worried.....
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: mk1 on May 23, 2012, 03: PM
Quote from: LookslikeTORYagain on May 23, 2012, 02: PM.

And lets have it right, when you look in the mirror do you see a person that would sexually drive the A.B.s mad with desire


I dunno......have you seen the stae of the women they knock about with?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img521/1530/littlepiggies.jpg)

Lovers of the large boned methinks.
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 23, 2012, 05: PM
Quote from: LookslikeTORYagain on May 23, 2012, 03: PM

Would you be Hartlepool's Raul Moat?


Just picture that genial chap you speak of and then look back at the photo above.....................

In fact this saves you the bother http://jskychat.blogspot.com/2011/02/raoul-moats-secret-gay-affair.html
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 23, 2012, 05: PM
I'm sure they are but if the local photoshop guru is around....
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Benefitcheat on May 23, 2012, 06: PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 23, 2012, 06: PM
There was a programme on TV last night about those two women..
Title: Re: Boxing champion.
Post by: Greg X on May 25, 2012, 02: PM
Quote from: mk1 on May 22, 2012, 01: AM
See the 'interview' here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18129531

Just watched it to see what the fuss is all about. Given the circumstances she was fine. The BBC reporter was poor - I hope he lives there - I would hate to think that my telly tax paid for his flight and hotel.

Testicles -  B*lls