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Politics => Local Issues and Matters => Topic started by: steveL on May 20, 2014, 06: PM

Title: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: steveL on May 20, 2014, 06: PM
I gather Ms Wilcox is missing pretty well all of her house windows today. Not entirely sure if it was courtesy of a local hurler or perhaps a young entrepreneur who had realised the ticket potential of setting up the Manor equivalent of a coconut shy.

It could be something to do with several members of the former management committee of Manor Residents having received demands from HMRC for unpaid National Insurance Contributions from the disgraced community group - £319,600 to be precise - and yes you DID read that right.

National Insurance was deducted from staff wages but somehow never quite made it to the tax office. I know of four so far who have received the letters all threatening bankruptcy if payment is not received within 6 days (long since passed).

The question on everyone's lips: have former Trustees Stephen Akers-Belcher and Paul Beck received theirs?

Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: pensionater on May 20, 2014, 07: PM
Cranny must have started a window fitting business.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: Jeff on May 20, 2014, 07: PM
They might have been aiming for the Marjorie James posters in her windows.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: not4me on May 20, 2014, 08: PM
Quote from: pensionater on May 20, 2014, 07: PM
Cranny must have started a window fitting business.
;D ;D
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: Interested on May 20, 2014, 09: PM
Will this sad sorry affair ever be sorted?

How many more "victims" is this sad specimen of a person going to leave high and dry with her despicable behaviour?

The saddest thing with the whole sorry affair is that she doesn't give a toss, and constantly bleats on about her innocence, she (and her hangers on - you all know who you are) lived the high life for a long time. Spending money hand over fist and blatantly "stealing" from HMRC and misleading those she employed.

How many innocent former employees have found out that they haven't been paying sufficient National Insurance Contributions and then having to go through the process of sorting it out.

Utterly unbelievable that our (we as a town elected them) leaders turned a blind eye and initially tried to defend her........hang your heads in shame......you are as guilty as the sorry specimen that continues to bring shame and embarrassment to this town and council.

Not for one minute have you had the b***s to hold your hands up and apologise, oh sorry it takes someone with b***s to do that..............Shameful >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 21, 2014, 01: AM
Typical labour.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: fred c on May 21, 2014, 08: AM
If it is correct that the total sum owed to HMRC is £320,000 somewhere along the line she will be held to account for that, either the cops or HMRC will be looking into the Scam.

But the unhealthy lack of action by our council is something of a mystery, there was an awful lot of information kicking around at the time about what was going on at MRA yet it took 18 months or more for anything to be done.

The staggering fact however was that HBC & "The Mob" kept paying both MRA & Who Cares N/E...... When "Handsome Ste & P Beck" resigned from the board of trustees, they should have requested an investigation into the reason why they felt it necessary to do so.

Has anyone heard one word of condemnation by any of "The Mob" over this ?

Have any of them offered any support to the 4 employees who were so disgracefully treated by Wilcox ?

Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: steveL on May 21, 2014, 10: AM
Spot on Fred. 18 months from the 'To the Manor Born' article first appearing on the Post to Stubbs finally being forced to call in the Police. Even after the tribunal cases, he was still telling people at Drummond's farewell do at the Domes that Wilcox had done nothing wrong and that it was all 'a misunderstanding over contracted hours'.

It's the internal culture within HBC to keep everything inside the Civic Centre. Protecting the 'organisation' is viewed as being far more important than protecting the public interest.

In time, the Wynyard affair will prove to be equally damaging to the reputation of HBC. It says much when Peer Group reports intended to examine the way the council is run are themselves the subject of attempts at suppression.   
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: for fawkes sake on May 21, 2014, 12: PM
I am totally convinced that, if HBC could have found a way, they would have been quite happy for Manor Residents, with Wilcox at the helm, to continue on as before. This was something that ran away from those who would rather have kept the whole sordid affair under wraps thanks largely to this website.

It is, a cultural thing and I don't think the problem will be truly resolved until we have a mass clear out of those far too willing to turn a blind eye.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: fred c on May 21, 2014, 01: PM
Quote from: for fawkes sake on May 21, 2014, 12: PM
I am totally convinced that, if HBC could have found a way, they would have been quite happy for Manor Residents, with Wilcox at the helm, to continue on as before. This was something that ran away from those who would rather have kept the whole sordid affair under wraps thanks largely to this website.

It is, a cultural thing and I don't think the problem will be truly resolved until we have a mass clear out of those far too willing to turn a blind eye.

It was only very recently that Wilcox was made "Persona Non Grata" at Kilmarnock Road, so she was obviously still operating in some capacity at MRA... or whatever it calls itself now. ?
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: jimbo on May 22, 2014, 11: PM
I can assure you Fred, Wilcox has nothing to do with the centre now. Her daughter and the best friend :o have had the front to request backdated pay from January !!!! Wonder if they will take the new management committee to a employment tribunal  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: Interested on May 23, 2014, 06: AM
Nothing will ever surprise me!!

The downright contempt "Ange" and her offspring have shown others is beyond belief.

How the mighty have fallen  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: for fawkes sake on May 23, 2014, 10: AM
Out of 'interest', how many of the 'new' management committee were on the 'old' management committee?
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: jimbo on May 23, 2014, 06: PM
two are left from the committee that's was formed in Nov 13, these are the 2 who where and still are working with the police & charity commission. Although what I find highly ridiculous, is that for months these 2 individuals battled with the charity commission over Wilcox and still to this day haven't received full support, but Wilcox's  daughter can contact the commission claiming she has stored a dishwasher in the container and they are advised to hand it back !!!!!!! Have these forgot about all the assets that are missing ????? stinks from high heaven !!!

But we keep battling on and hopefully justice will be served !!!
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: fred c on May 24, 2014, 08: AM
You have to wonder what else was stored in "that container" & if the cops were told about said container & its location.

It can`t be easy hiding £320,000 of NI cash, the huge amount will not be taken lightly by HMRC or the Cops....
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: Hazysky on May 26, 2014, 10: PM
She has spent the day putting jewellery for sale on the ' for sale in Middlesbrough' group on Facebook... I do hope it's to pay off any outstanding monies owed elsewhere
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: The Great Dictator on May 26, 2014, 11: PM
You must inform DWP.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: mk1 on May 26, 2014, 11: PM
Quote from: Hazysky on May 26, 2014, 10: PM
She has spent the day putting jewellery for sale on the ' for sale in Middlesbrough' group on Facebook...


That is what happens when you make Cranny keeper of the  Mace and Chains!
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: one direction on May 28, 2014, 05: PM
So is this a landlord having their house smashed up as a result of Wilcox? or is it her own property being destroyed? If its a rental property then why should she care......?
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: mk1 on May 28, 2014, 10: PM
I wonder where Angie got the  wit to  be able to spirit away so much money without being detected. One would think she needed guidance  from someone who had done it before.

Anyway  it is pointless to speculate because we we will never find out.

You would think the Council officers would have learnt a lesson  after this scandal from way back


http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/business-ban-for-former-councillor-1-989048


A FORMER councillor who ran up debts of more than £300,000 at a security firm has been banned from running a business for five years.

Kevin Cranney, who represented the Rift House ward in Hartlepool until 1997, carried on trading with Mutual Securities months after he knew it was insolvent.


He failed to pay off creditors and ran up huge debts in the hope a buyer could be found for the failed firm. The company eventually wound up in February 1996 owing 305,615.


Yesterday s successful director s disqualification at Newcastle County Court brings to an end a four-year legal battle for 44-year-old Mr Cranney which has seen him cleared of theft but ultimately fail as a businessman.


The hearing was brought by the secretary of state for trade and industry who felt that Mr Cranney was incompetent as a director of Mutual Securities.


Prosecutor Jonathan Holmes said Mr Cranney hid behind a series of fraudulent transactions carried out by dishonest staff members that ultimately turned profits into losses.


But instead of rectifying the wrongdoing, he turned a blind eye while the debts built up.


You should have known what was going on. You re the director, said Mr Holmes.


This wasn t even rectified after directors had their fingers burned not once but twice by previous staff.


Mr Cranney was invited onto the board of Mutual Securities the trading arm of the Owton Fens Community Association as an unpaid non-executive director in 1992. His knowledge of fundraising and grant applications was seen as useful.


The company s aim was to find security guard work for people from areas of high unemployment or decline. Contracts included Hartlepool Borough Council, Mill House Leisure Centre and a nightclub.


The company began to do well but the fraudulent activities of two former employees led to its ultimate downfall.


Specifically, accounts manager Alan Hart jailed for six months in 1996 for stealing almost 12,000 from the firm to fund a luxury lifestyle.


Hart was responsible for paying creditors as well as the monthly Inland Revenue and VAT returns.


But he failed to cough up for months on end, instead telling directors, including Mr Cranney, that everything was under control.


Mr Cranney, of Stockton Road, Hartlepool, should never have accepted that explanation, argued Mr Holmes.


Addressing District Judge John Wilson, Mr Holmes said: Mr Cranney knew what the position was but there was no howl of outrage.


Mr Cranney told you that he never trusted Mr Hart, that he thought he was lazy, that he wasn t putting in the returns but he did nothing about it.


Defending, barrister Matthew Caswell said the court needed to be satisfied that Mr Cranney was unfit to run a company.


He has been an honest, trustworthy and efficient director, he said.


But District Judge Wilson disagreed and banned him for five years. He must also pay costs the level of which have yet to be decided.


Speaking after the case, Mr Cranney said he felt he had been let down by justice.


This has been hanging round me for four years but at least everyone said it was not for self gain it was for people and jobs
.

Oh and whilst we are on the subject this  was posted on the Mail site under the fawning article about the latest contribution to 'The Vision'


Hartlepool hotel to undergo £250k revamp as part of plans to regenerate town – but nightclub shuts down

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/business/hartlepool-hotel-to-undergo-250k-revamp-as-part-of-plans-to-regenerate-town-but-nightclub-shuts-down-1-6640825#comments-area


Don't suppose either of the councilors have actually done a search on Mr Morton.Company House search shows over 30 companies he has been a director/owner of have gone into administration, declared bankrupt,wound up,or under a special order since 1995


Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: peterf on June 11, 2014, 10: AM
She rented a house from me, caused a lot of damage as I've described elsewhere in this forum and then strung out the small claims court for a year. The local bailiff, paid for by me to go and serve a warrant on her actually just told her how to get out of paying a penny to me!!!

She told the court that she couldn't pay because she doesn't have a bank account. I sent them the details of two of her bank accounts that I knew of. So now the court has finally ruled that she can pay me the £3000ish that she owes at a rate of £5 per month. So it will be paid off around the time I get my telegram from the Queen.


Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: peterf on June 11, 2014, 03: PM
p.s. I don't know if the house in Minch Rd is rented, but in any case it's not hers, it's her boyfriend's. What a surprise when the bailiffs call round, nothing belongs to her. Not even the bikes, computers and clothes she ordered from Very.co.uk using our names.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: mk1 on June 11, 2014, 05: PM
Is it possible you could scan and post  documets to show  someone was  using your identity to  order goods?
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: pensionater on June 11, 2014, 06: PM
I think we should be careful that anything posted on here does not jeopardize the chance of a successful conviction.Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: A Smashing Time for Wilcox
Post by: mk1 on June 11, 2014, 06: PM
I understand the firm declined to take action against Mzzzz Wilcox  so no worries on that score.
The missing MRA funds are another  matter.